Maybe its just my imagination but binsearch seems like it has been letting me down more and more often lately.
I mean for the last 6 months compared with the last 5 years.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Maybe its just my imagination but binsearch seems like it has been letting me down more and more often lately.
I mean for the last 6 months compared with the last 5 years.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
binsearch & nzbindex(less than binsearch) comply with dmcas too you know.
Everything is still there, just not as easy to get to. I search popular groups and download the nfo to see what it is. Most new movies and some tv is coded.
Lots of stuff has moved to private/encrypted/for-pay websites. But a lot hasn't. There was a big rush a few months ago right about the time the old indexers gave up (mostly due to inability to transfer funds). The actual number of things that got pulled, even at Astraweb, was pretty thin, unless you lived for certain things like pro-wrestling or network programs that were easily gotten off very cheap subscriptions.
Personally, I find the drop in decent 'low cost' used movies at ebay in the last few months more distressing. Supposedly it's due to Amazon getting more aggressive in bringing in sellers but I've noticed that the average prices for things, even old, seems to have skyrocketed, and with ebay, less and less are actually in actions, more and more are 'buy it now' at inflated prices.
But I still find load of stuff on usenet, a lot of it either unobtainable in RegA or (as in the last paragraph) too **** expensive.
I might add that lots of posting folks aren't including an nfo at the time the files are uploaded, and may not have the same 'filename' as the actual binary files. You have to use your brainpower a bit to figure out the 'link' between the (plaintext or encrypted) nfo and the (plaintext or encrypted) binary files.
On one hand, it seems great for Usenet to be free and open for all, but on the other hand, private torrent sites have large groups of people who upload their entire collections, making torrents a huge repository of stuff that won't be available on Usenet unless there are more private, costly Usenet groups and sites. So basically Usenet will be similar to BitTorrent, private and public uploads with private having more files, certainly rarer stuff. Of course many of those end up leaking out to TPB and will happen on Usenet too.
The salient question is 'what can't you find'?
Pretty much every scene, P2P or public release is posted to Usenet at some point in some place.
What can't you find?
If you compare Usenet to private torrent sites, endless things . An example is a British show like Heir Hunters. All 7 seasons or close to it are available on British torrent sites, on Usenet about 1/2 a season 4 years ago. Sports uploads, be it games or ESPN type shows are sporadic compared to a sports torrent tracker. Big movie torrent sites have tens of thousands of movies you won't see on Usenet, unless there's a private group that has passwords and it's own site and charges $$ for the content they upload. Even something like Howard Stern on Demand dries up because the 1 guy who used to upload religiously is sick of the show or retires, and there's no one to replace him on a regular basis. Also Usenet is getting later and later for things, and some sports events showing up 12 hours late is bad, because by then you'll know the score. Some HD movies seem to be posted a day later than on a good torrent site, sometimes months later if ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by DngrMs
The real difference between other sharing platforms and Usenet is and always will be that most all other platforms work together and share information in many forms to get to the widest audience. Usenet however and i have said this before is a kill or be killed mentality and communities are reluctant to cross share information. Whats brought attention to Usenet? GREED. Usenet is only accountable per head an extremely small % compared to all other platforms. Usenet has been this way for years and no as much as we all want change it will never change.
I agree with the above it takes a lot of brain power, knowledge and patience to get to the files you want. Usenet is no longer n00b friendly but only saving grace is most things appear eventually. Best advice i would give n00bs starting to use Usenet
1.Avoid most newznab clones as out of about 40/50 i have only 3/4 worth a visit.
2.Avoid sites that restrict files until they rifle through your wallet for what they get.
3.Use sites like FST that are free to use. There are only maybe 2 others like FST in forum form that look at you as a member not another wallet to empty.
4.Be aware that a few sites out there are owned by the same person and you could indeed end up paying if you choose the same person multiple times.
5.Well have fun doing it as Usenet can be fun as too are some of the characters you will come across.
Lastly Usenet is in transition with the take downs it has adjusted well but to the detriment of its user base. Patience is key here as its only been a few months and i have faith Usenet will bounce back in all its glory.
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Originally Posted by justlookingIf you compare Usenet to private torrent sites, endless things . An example is a British show like Heir Hunters. All 7 seasons or close to it are available on British torrent sites, on Usenet about 1/2 a season 4 years ago. Sports uploads, be it games or ESPN type shows are sporadic compared to a sports torrent tracker. Big movie torrent sites have tens of thousands of movies you won't see on Usenet, unless there's a private group that has passwords and it's own site and charges $$ for the content they upload. Even something like Howard Stern on Demand dries up because the 1 guy who used to upload religiously is sick of the show or retires, and there's no one to replace him on a regular basis. Also Usenet is getting later and later for things, and some sports events showing up 12 hours late is bad, because by then you'll know the score. Some HD movies seem to be posted a day later than on a good torrent site, sometimes months later if ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by DngrMs
Stop comparing the two, they're different. Usenet is NOT an archive, idiots that buy into retention believe it's an archive but it's not. Of course if you want old stuff it's going to be available more often on torrents than Usenet (irrespective of retention).
That's not the point.
What can't the OP find on Usenet that one would reasonably expect to be on Usenet? A blockbuster movie from 2010 or UFC #01 or a F1 race from 1994 are NOT likely candidates for Usenet (anymore). If you go looking for that type of stuff then you're better to spend your time on TPB, KAT or RUT. Alternatively learn how to REQ on Usenet... if you post in the right group you'll normally get the content you want within a few days.
Usenet and public torrent sites compliment one and other. Private torrent sites may have some obscure or old stuff but they're niche markets and I don't recommend anyone joins one unless they need to.
N00b friendly is not, and should never be, an aspiration for Usenet. That goal is best left to layers above Usenet such as NZBMatrix was. That way when the gate closes the realm still exists. I have no sympathy for pirates that won't learn their trade properly and crying that they can't 'get their fix' because it's no longer being spoon fed to them doesn't endear me to then any further.Quote:
Originally Posted by k2bug
What can't you find on Usenet that you expect to find there?
And therein lies the biggest difference between torrents and usenet; now, a lot of folks are trying their all to make usenet a 'private club' just like the majority of torrents, then again, you'll still be fighting the fact that most torrent folks don't keep Petabytes of material 'on-line' 24/7, which is really the biggest drawback to torrents. One may 'join' all the private trackers one can, and find all those 'gems' and such, only to find that x% of the way through the transfer, the 'host' machine out there drops off that particular 'net', and never returns.Quote:
Originally Posted by justlooking
Now, perhaps one can figure that's the equivalent of something getting DMCA'd on usenet; I'd say if it was, then the poster isn't watching very closely. With such programs as nzbcc, it's easy enough to keep an eye out.
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Originally Posted by k2bug
Your post should be required reading for everybody on Usenet. GREED and EGO has divided usenet. Even before the demise of the Matrix, usenet was divided in many ways. Almost all of the NZB groups started the same way. Somebody would get pissed off at an admin or moderator and start a new group. Some would stay loyal to the old group. Some would pledge loyalty to the new group. Some would try to stay in the middle. Some of these groups would try to have "exclusive" content. A few would even passcode their releases. It never works. There will always be people who feel that "pirate DRM" violates the spirit of Usenet. That means that people will always leak things in IRC or other groups. Unless you just have a small indexer shared between a few friends there is no such thing as a private group.
After the demise of the Matrix, a bunch of new newsnab sites opened up. Most of them thought that if they opened up an index site that the money would rain in. A few of them rename some of the encoded releases. None of them have all or even most of the encoded releases. Others are simply indexers. All of them will talk about their " enormous" server costs. Most of them try to get money out of you by promising you this pot of gold full of releases after they get your donation.
It was the Matrix itself that brought all kinds of unwanted attention to Usenet. Usenet has already bounced back. It's just taken on another form. There are places you can find the encoded releases. It does take more knowledge and patience.
TldrQuote:
Originally Posted by user3240Quote:
Originally Posted by k2bug
Your post should be required reading for everybody on Usenet. GREED and EGO has divided usenet. Even before the demise of the Matrix, usenet was divided in many ways. Almost all of the NZB groups started the same way. Somebody would get pissed off at an admin or moderator and start a new group. Some would stay loyal to the old group. Some would pledge loyalty to the new group. Some would try to stay in the middle. Some of these groups would try to have "exclusive" content. A few would even passcode their releases. It never works. There will always be people who feel that "pirate DRM" violates the spirit of Usenet. That means that people will always leak things in IRC or other groups. Unless you just have a small indexer shared between a few friends there is no such thing as a private group.
After the demise of the Matrix, a bunch of new newsnab sites opened up. Most of them thought that if they opened up an index site that the money would rain in. A few of them rename some of the encoded releases. None of them have all or even most of the encoded releases. Others are simply indexers. All of them will talk about their " enormous" server costs. Most of them try to get money out of you by promising you this pot of gold full of releases after they get your donation.
It was the Matrix itself that brought all kinds of unwanted attention to Usenet. Usenet has already bounced back. It's just taken on another form. There are places you can find the encoded releases. It does take more knowledge and patience.
It's still as newb friendly as ever, with the right indexing sites. Some, but not all, require a small one time donation (big deal). It's great for fast downloads on HD stuff, but one would be wise to get a VPN service for use with torrents to "fill in the gaps"
Eternal September (Reprise).Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien5
now that newzbin is gone it isnt the same. there isnt any club to fill the void. you end up getting stung more often with crap passworded downloads.
I guess everyone is doing what i'm doing and going torrent with vpn because torrents have lots of user input and you know they're good downloads.
Here lies the problem. People think and thought matrix and newzbin were the be all and end all for years but all it did was bring unwanted attention especially around the huge income both sites made then later denied.Quote:
Originally Posted by reallysalt
There was and still is a few good sites that run along the big ones back then and now. With that said there is no longer one or two dominate sites anymore. If your getting stung by passwords then your in the wrong place. As in my last post stay away from the majority of the newznab clones and if you go forum based which there is only about4 or 5 credible ones and even in those small numbers 1 or 2 make outrages claims. For me when i join any site i judge it on how it is setup i.e is it pushed in your face at every angle to donate or restrictive sections again used to get into your wallet. You will find the more subtle sites that has no in your face fee's are sometimes the best but not always.
Look and you will find the very very few good sites out there. Just don't go believing the hype the pile on and stick around use the site for a short while see how its run then make an informed choice were is good and bad.
I tried looking all over for such a site after newzbin went down, alas. The free sites were all the same; automated listings based on binsearch with very little to no user input. There were a few invite-only sites i wanted to try but couldn't get one. I asked in here repeatedly in the appropriate section but just gave up after a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by k2bugHere lies the problem. People think and thought matrix and newzbin were the be all and end all for years but all it did was bring unwanted attention especially around the huge income both sites made then later denied.Quote:
Originally Posted by reallysalt
There was and still is a few good sites that run along the big ones back then and now. With that said there is no longer one or two dominate sites anymore. If your getting stung by passwords then your in the wrong place. As in my last post stay away from the majority of the newznab clones and if you go forum based which there is only about4 or 5 credible ones and even in those small numbers 1 or 2 make outrages claims. For me when i join any site i judge it on how it is setup i.e is it pushed in your face at every angle to donate or restrictive sections again used to get into your wallet. You will find the more subtle sites that has no in your face fee's are sometimes the best but not always.
Look and you will find the very very few good sites out there. Just don't go believing the hype the pile on and stick around use the site for a short while see how its run then make an informed choice were is good and bad.
Can you recommend one of these good sites?
[QUOTE=reallysalt;3702869]Quote:
Originally Posted by k2bug
NZBGrabit appears to be open now. https://www.nzbgrabit.co.uk/register.php
I can't point you in any direction as last time i did this members from the above mentioned site tried to rip me a new one for having an opinion so i stay silent now and let people find out themselves. Just watch for sites baring false gifts and restrictions and exaggerated claims of expenses.
Keep you coin in your pocket and any site worth its salt will not harass you or beg you via email. Spend time to get to know a site or sites before jumping in at there requests for "cash".
I will gladly accept a pm and i promise I won't rip you a new one. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by k2bug
One can have an opinion one way or the other, but at least if folks follow some basic rules in posting (or completely forget any that they might have learned or figured out over the past years), things might bi a little bit easier.
Twice this last week I tripped over nice, large (read: full rip HD's, >30GB+) where the pars posted were less than 1%, and the server they were posted to are considered the worst on usenet (read: some fly by night euro thing that must have one of the world's worst interconnections). Neither were encrypted in any way, but although they took several hours to d/l with my somewhat slow connection, took additionally twice that due to the lean parity numbers 'enhanced' by the poor source server.
So, yes, things have changed, but there are folks out there that have forgotten the basics, pure and simple. So things may have been degraded by all the encrypted trash out there, but again, forgetting the basics, makes things worse.
Are DMCA requests the same as it was when it first started? If I were to try to get Jack Reacher, or The Last Stand, or other recent popular movies, would they be DMCA'd by now?
It all depends on which NSP you use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sometwo
Nope. They are both 'too new' (less than 30 days since Bluray release as of today) and a quick check on the good search sites show that there are a couple of the 'usual' encrypted euros trying to make money off them, but it's a bit too soon for any of the better uploaders (either full bd or most of the re-encoders) to get to either of them, although there are a couple that already have done 'quick jobs'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sometwo
And, of course, neither are p0rn (okay, some may classify that a bit differently), pro-wrestling, or low-rent network comedy (again, some may classify them differently!).
Add to that, Jack Reacher is an 'exclusive' title at Best Buy and Target (according to some info I have) so it's availability may be at this point a bit limited.
Again, WAIT for the good stuff. Their is already tons of the usual xvid and other 'low rent' rips and recodes of both, and as sure as they hit the maximum showings on the pay movie channels, their will be more.
Instantly saying that they will be DMCA'd is simply not true, they aren't in one of the categories I mentioned, and the 'qucikie' jobs haven't been that I can tell.
I am Admin at NZBGrabit, as you Know the trouble was what you were stating on that occasion was so far from the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by k2bug
As any other site would you not expect us to correct any information which was wrong.
Ahem . The full 46 GB Euro Bluray of Jack Reacher has been available on torrent sites for 8 weeks. The 30 Gb remux has been available for as long. Now you are saying wait even longer for some crappy x 264. :whistling
No one has to wait. I don't know what anybody is talking about. It's been there on Usenet for 8 weeks too.Quote:
Originally Posted by stan
Jack Reacher 2012 BluRay 1080p AVC DTS-HD MA7 1-CHD
Movies > BluRay 53.2d 48.02 GB
Jack Reacher 2012 COMPLETE BLURAY-PCH
Movies > BluRay 55.4d 46.25 GB
Jack Reacher -BD50
Movies > BluRay 48.9d 45.54 GB
I'd call you on that, as in the 4-5 different raw indexers I monitor, that listing did not come up, although some of the folks recoding have listed it as the 'source'. You didn't list which newsgroup it was in, and there's a possibility that it's in one of the 'new' groups that have come out of the woodwork lately, and aren't being referenced yet by any of the prime indexing sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by justlookingNo one has to wait. I don't know what anybody is talking about. It's been there on Usenet for 8 weeks too.Quote:
Originally Posted by stan
But really, as both are easily available by rental, it's a moot point.
I downloaded this copy a while ago, it has been out for a while. Note sure if its DCMA'd now though at work, can't use the checker here.
SABnzbd has downloaded "Jack Reacher 2012 BDRip XviD-AMIABLE"
Finished at 2013-04-18 15:15:26
Downloaded 1.4 GB
Do not waste 45+ gigs on that crap movie. :noes:
Usenet is becoming more and more complex. Some indexing sites showed it, some not. Some raw searches show, others don't. I never heard of the group until recently.
http://www.binsearch.info/viewNFO.ph...84953&server=2
Can this guy go more than two posts without mentioning his dislike of "pro rasslin?" I don't care for it either, but Beck must be on some kind of a crusade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck38.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sometwo
And, of course, neither are p0rn (okay, some may classify that a bit differently), pro-wrestling, or low-rent network comedy (again, some may classify them differently!).
Yep, a crusade against mafia (yes, the real one, complete with Italian and Israeli surnames) as evidenced by the folks with extensive political and monied interests in the northeastern states of the US (New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, eastern Pennsylvania), and who started (with their mobbed up law firms) and continue the current jihad.Quote:
Originally Posted by user3240
It's easy to see from the other end of the continent. It's simply such a low bar of 'entertainment' it's always good for a bellyful of laughs that anyone over the age of 5 or 6 pays it any attention. But the folks running it need to eventually be brought to the bar of justice (i.e., have their own wing in the latest super-max).
I dled the Last Stand weeks ago. One of the posts was DCMA'd btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck38Nope. They are both 'too new' (less than 30 days since Bluray release as of today) and a quick check on the good search sites show that there are a couple of the 'usual' encrypted euros trying to make money off them, but it's a bit too soon for any of the better uploaders (either full bd or most of the re-encoders) to get to either of them, although there are a couple that already have done 'quick jobs'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sometwo
And, of course, neither are p0rn (okay, some may classify that a bit differently), pro-wrestling, or low-rent network comedy (again, some may classify them differently!).
Add to that, Jack Reacher is an 'exclusive' title at Best Buy and Target (according to some info I have) so it's availability may be at this point a bit limited.
Again, WAIT for the good stuff. Their is already tons of the usual xvid and other 'low rent' rips and recodes of both, and as sure as they hit the maximum showings on the pay movie channels, their will be more.
Instantly saying that they will be DMCA'd is simply not true, they aren't in one of the categories I mentioned, and the 'qucikie' jobs haven't been that I can tell.
It seems as if binsearch has stopped indexing a.b.hdtv.x264 which is not a good sign. Any other obvious ones falling off the list?
Are you sure? I can still browse the group, and valid queries do return hits.Quote:
Originally Posted by DngrMs
No, I was evidently full of shit, they've promoted it to their primary server pool and my lazy arse didn't check that before I jumped to the wrong conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by piercerseth
https://www.binsearch.info/browse.ph....x264&server=2
No longer works, but
https://www.binsearch.info/browse.ph...ries.hdtv.x264
Works just fine.
Binsearch always has been a bit odd in the way they've split their database into 'popular' and 'others' groupings.
Several folks/groups of folks are thinking they can avoid DMCA's by starting up new groups with weird names, but what it really does is 'hide' their postings from the search engines, until they 'add' that group to their schema; it may depend on how that is added, either automatically or manually.
Which is all why it's always a good idea, when searching for something, that one uses several index sites and not rely on just one or two.
Heh. I do that kind of thing all the time. I think it's congenital...Quote:
Originally Posted by DngrMsNo, I was evidently full of shit, they've promoted it to their primary server pool and my lazy arse didn't check that before I jumped to the wrong conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by piercerseth
a.b.e-book.technical is going to 'dry up' as it were, while rockhound takes a (hopefully) short hiatus. I'm sure his/her acolytes will more than handle reposts until that time. Only real drama as of late.