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Concealing IP address from VPN provider
Is there a way to conceal my real IP from my VPN provider when downloading movies using my bit torrent client?
Thank you
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use a vpn. But go for a Paid one.
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ipvanish is working OK for me (drop of about 10% bandwidth). My little odroid torrent box works fine on it`s own as it should. My kodi RaspPi are also happy with VPNManager doing the deed (underlying just openvpn)
If you need a bit of help setting up Debian and Deluge then just ask.
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Primrose
Is there a way to conceal my real IP from my VPN provider when downloading movies using my bit torrent client?
If you don't trust your VPN provider with your real IP address, then why are you willing to trust them with your online activities, which is far more specific and potentially compromising?
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Double vpn is the only way. Or a seedbox/vpn combo which I suppose means there is more than one way. :)
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It's a good question, what if the $3 a month VPN provider is ultimately owned (or pwned) by an industry association or a trolling law firm. Or by common criminals. I'm not suggesting that anybody do it, but if everybody piggybacked, and rotated their usage often, the question might be less pointed. Incidentally, in the Wikipedia article "Legality of piggybacking" , most of the references are over a decade old ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_piggybacking ).
I remember the days when every time you connected to the Internet, you were assigned an IP more or less at random from the ISP's pool. To get a persistent IP, you needed to pay extra. Now, even if the modem is down for a day, the same IP comes back on reconnection.
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Gregg987
I remember the days when every time you connected to the Internet, you were assigned an IP more or less at random from the ISP's pool. To get a persistent IP, you needed to pay extra. Now, even if the modem is down for a day, the same IP comes back on reconnection.
I was one of those that paid vast amounts to have a static IP through Demon.... was paying about £50 a month which 20 years ago was a lot for an 512K ADSL line. Life was good back in those days, piracy was not so mainstream and you didn`t need to hide anything. Now you have to take extreme measures just to order your online shop from ASDA without getting logged and recorded somewhere, that is progress for yer
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Some interesting thoughts...
https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29
https://www.goldenfrog.com/blog/myth...-and-anonymity (article written by a commercial provider, but they're transparent about it and it's factually accurate)
https://restoreprivacy.com/vpn-scams/
Ultimately using a VPN (or any other kind of encrypted "middleman") is not a magic elixir, it just shifts trust from your ISP to the people who run whatever service you use.
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Gregg987
I remember the days when every time you connected to the Internet, you were assigned an IP more or less at random from the ISP's pool. To get a persistent IP, you needed to pay extra. Now, even if the modem is down for a day, the same IP comes back on reconnection.
I remember when NAT routers were disallowed and you had to pay for an additional public IP for each thing you wanted to get online, how the times have changed :turned:
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Just make sure you sign up to a VPN service that has no logging. Nothing is 100%, but we are little fish in a large pond. They really care about the people who have access to pre-retail material and distribute it. Plus the people who make money from providing access to that material.
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MacGyverSG1
Just make sure you sign up to a VPN service that has no logging.
Some of those "no logs" services were caught with their hands on the information they claimed not to keep. Or mentioning that they do log it in their fine print (not sure which is worse). Make sure to do your homework beforehand, and be aware that ultimately, you can't really know if they're lying or not.
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Well, these days the truth doesn't matter and lying is accepted as normal.
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Say it truth or deception, the VPN industry is booming. Expected to grow to $36 Billion by 2022. That's Jaw-Dropping.
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FEAR motivates people. Religion and republicans have been using that strategy forever.
As soon as laws are passed to force them to log everything, business will die.
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For daily activities and work, one thing that I care about is if my connection is secure (encrypted) or not. I subscribe to a vpn provider.
Even though, I downloaded Wireshark to perform a test, and I realized that when my computer had vpn router as gateway (either PPTP or L2TP with encryption ON), some of the information were clean plain texts.
After that, I started to use this vpn router as gateway only for my xbox.
Today I have installed the vpn software on my PC and phone (gateway is my ISP), and it truly encrypts. Wireshark doesn't show the information in this case.
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MacGyverSG1
...As soon as laws are passed to force them to log everything, business will die.
Or they all move to the Netherlands. It is like a pirate radio for the Millennials
I agree with your sentiment but I still use one just to avoid getting that letter through the post saying I`ve been spotted downloading 'Chas and Dave' or something. Unless C&D get back together (I think now dead) and trace me via VPN logs then I think I am safe and didn`t get that crappy be nice letter
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mariad
Say it truth or deception, the VPN industry is booming. Expected to grow to
$36 Billion by 2022. That's Jaw-Dropping.
I remember SecureIX and Hotspot Shield 0.937 and when finding even paid services was hard :coffee:
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laro_ye
For daily activities and work, one thing that I care about is if my connection is secure (encrypted) or not. I subscribe to a vpn provider.
Even though, I downloaded Wireshark to perform a test, and I realized that when my computer had vpn router as gateway (either PPTP or L2TP with encryption ON), some of the information were clean plain texts.
After that, I started to use this vpn router as gateway only for my xbox.
Today I have installed the vpn software on my PC and phone (gateway is my ISP), and it truly encrypts. Wireshark doesn't show the information in this case.
Which router are you using?
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anon
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mariad
Say it truth or deception, the VPN industry is booming. Expected to grow to
$36 Billion by 2022. That's Jaw-Dropping.
I remember SecureIX and Hotspot Shield 0.937 and when finding even paid services was hard :coffee:
I didn't look for a credible source to dispute that claim, but that site has 'dodgy af' written all over it.
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MacGyverSG1
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laro_ye
For daily activities and work, one thing that I care about is if my connection is secure (encrypted) or not. I subscribe to a vpn provider.
Even though, I downloaded Wireshark to perform a test, and I realized that when my computer had vpn router as gateway (either PPTP or L2TP with encryption ON), some of the information were clean plain texts.
After that, I started to use this vpn router as gateway only for my xbox.
Today I have installed the vpn software on my PC and phone (gateway is my ISP), and it truly encrypts. Wireshark doesn't show the information in this case.
Which router are you using?
I have 2 linksys, and it happens to both of them. The firmware is tomato by shibby.
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megabyteme
I didn't look for a credible source to dispute that claim, but that site has 'dodgy af' written all over it.
The only ranklist I'd trust is the one on TorrentFreak ;) Even then, they've been accused of bias towards the services that advertise there.
And of course, there's always the possibility of renting a server, then setting up a VPN yourself. That way you know what you have, what you'll get and what's logged, and the only "higher power" you're subject to is the hosting provider.
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laro_ye
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MacGyverSG1
Which router are you using?
I have 2 linksys, and it happens to both of them. The firmware is tomato by shibby.
I'm thinking of getting a new ASUS router (RT-AC86U) and running NordVPN on it. No need to install third party firmware (even though I might do it anyway).
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MacGyverSG1
No need to install third party firmware (even though I might do it anyway).
Once you try OpenWrt and see it lets you do pretty much anything you want, you'll never want to use stock firmware again ;)
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anon
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MacGyverSG1
No need to install third party firmware (even though I might do it anyway).
Once you try OpenWrt and see it lets you do pretty much anything you want, you'll never want to use stock firmware again ;)
Considering I just read through the wiki for the software and didn't feel like a Jedi of Networking after doing so, what super powers does it have for those of us who are generally networking phobic?
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MacGyverSG1
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laro_ye
I have 2 linksys, and it happens to both of them. The firmware is tomato by shibby.
I'm thinking of getting a new ASUS router (RT-AC86U) and running NordVPN on it. No need to install third party firmware (even though I might do it anyway).
I am a StrongVPN subscriber.
I don't know if the lack of encryption is because of tomato's.
I will take a look on this OpenWrt.
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anon
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MacGyverSG1
No need to install third party firmware (even though I might do it anyway).
Once you try OpenWrt and see it lets you do pretty much anything you want, you'll never want to use stock firmware again ;)
I've been reading about Asuswrt-Merlin custom firmwares. For most people the stock firmware is perfectly fine. All the extra features added to the custom firmware are seldom used by most. Some of the tweaks do make the Asus firmware even better. People like megabyteme should stay away from the custom firmwares. Keep it simple. ;)
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MacGyverSG1
People like megabyteme should stay away from the custom firmwares. Keep it simple. ;)
:lol::mad3:
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anon
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MacGyverSG1
No need to install third party firmware (even though I might do it anyway).
Once you try OpenWrt and see it lets you do pretty much anything you want, you'll never want to use stock firmware again ;)
Yep as he says. Why settle for less
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anon
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MacGyverSG1
No need to install third party firmware (even though I might do it anyway).
Once you try OpenWrt and see it lets you do pretty much anything you want, you'll never want to use stock firmware again ;)
Do we need a programmer to set things right in this firmware, or it has also a user-friendly interface, which can do many of things too?
Does it really encrypt L2TP packages? I'm asking because I believed that until I installed wireshark.
I'm not sure if StrongVPN works in this firmware, tough.
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laro_ye
, or it has also a user-friendly interface
That is why LUCI is there... it is more fun to jump into things but a UI is good too. Not sure what you expect from WS. Great program used it myself for various projects, it is what it is.
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Gribley
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laro_ye
, or it has also a user-friendly interface
That is why LUCI is there... it is more fun to jump into things but a UI is good too. Not sure what you expect from WS. Great program used it myself for various projects, it is what it is.
Thanks for the info. I'm not a skilled programmer. :lol:
It took me some time to do a simple batch file that do on windows a "touch" linux command, to adjust the timestamp.
:cheers:
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I do program but Linux based systems are like going back to the stone age of DOS.... sad people with beards and sandals think it good to type instead of click.
Just remember opkg update and opkg list-upgradable. And there was a problem with apt-get? who knows, bloody linux hippy arse people.
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Gribley
I do program but Linux based systems are like going back to the stone age of DOS.... sad people with beards and sandals think it good to type instead of click.
Just remember opkg update and opkg list-upgradable. And there was a problem with apt-get? who knows, bloody linux hippy arse people.
True.
I'm a "keep it simple" kind of guy. May be an excuse for my lack of programming though :lol:
:cheers:
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Just a suggestion for all the users looking forward to getting a VPN service to follow these 6 ways to choose a VPN.
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It should not be on encryption, just go with anyone. Everyone uses AES256. Is serpent better yes but then so is two fish.... you really need to read the white papers on this stuff if you are interested. P-box, s-box join the group.
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megabyteme
Considering I just read through the wiki for the software and didn't feel like a Jedi of Networking after doing so, what super powers does it have for those of us who are generally networking phobic?
Pretty much all of them :P
Run programs on your router, including VPN, torrent clients and servers. Remap ports to create isolated networks or turn the WAN port into an additional LAN. Reprogram LEDs, buttons and sliders to act however you want. Make it work as a range extender without spending extra money on an actual range extender (which is essentially a crippled router with reduced features sold at a premium). Use any kind of USB device, including storage, modems, printers, cameras, sound cards, whatever. And much, much more... almost anything networking related or doable by a "real" computer, and almost any device that has Linux support, you can do and use with OpenWrt. Not to mention the security benefits of running firmware that is reviewed, tested and updated regularly, instead of some stock image where you don't know what's inside or how old it is.
The only downsides are that not all routers are compatible (though most are) and it has a learning curve. You only get minimum functionality out of the box, and have to be willing to spend some time making things work. But it's worth it.
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anon
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megabyteme
Considering I just read through the wiki for the software and didn't feel like a Jedi of Networking after doing so, what super powers does it have for those of us who are generally networking phobic?
Pretty much all of them :P
Run programs on your router, including VPN, torrent clients and servers. Remap ports to create isolated networks or turn the WAN port into an additional LAN. Reprogram LEDs, buttons and sliders to act however you want. Make it work as a range extender without spending extra money on an actual range extender (which is essentially a crippled router with reduced features sold at a premium). Use any kind of USB device, including storage, modems, printers, cameras, sound cards, whatever. And much, much more... almost anything networking related or doable by a "real" computer, and almost any device that has Linux support, you can do and use with OpenWrt. Not to mention the security benefits of running firmware that is reviewed, tested and updated regularly, instead of some stock image where you don't know what's inside or how old it is.
The only downsides are that not all routers are compatible (though most are) and it has a learning curve. You only get minimum functionality out of the box, and have to be willing to spend some time making things work. But it's worth it.
All great things, but as I said before, very few people will ever use those features. Most people will just screw things up playing around with all those new settings available. Then they will be asking you a ton of questions to fix it. :P
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MacGyverSG1
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anon
Pretty much all of them :P
Run programs on your router, including VPN, torrent clients and servers. Remap ports to create isolated networks or turn the WAN port into an additional LAN. Reprogram LEDs, buttons and sliders to act however you want. Make it work as a range extender without spending extra money on an actual range extender (which is essentially a crippled router with reduced features sold at a premium). Use any kind of USB device, including storage, modems, printers, cameras, sound cards, whatever. And much, much more... almost anything networking related or doable by a "real" computer, and almost any device that has Linux support, you can do and use with OpenWrt. Not to mention the security benefits of running firmware that is reviewed, tested and updated regularly, instead of some stock image where you don't know what's inside or how old it is.
The only downsides are that not all routers are compatible (though most are) and it has a learning curve. You only get minimum functionality out of the box, and have to be willing to spend some time making things work. But it's worth it.
All great things, but as I said before, very few people will ever use those features. Most people will just screw things up playing around with all those new settings available. Then they will be asking you a ton of questions to fix it. :P
I'm very found of user-friendly interfaces because my way of setting parameters related to routers and network is entropic... The more I click, the more it stinks. :lol:
:cheers:
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MacGyverSG1
Most people will just screw things up playing around with all those new settings available.
Which is a good way to learn! I don't think what you're saying is invalid, though. Sometimes not having to think too much is an advantage :)
Oh, and there is also a third way: Gargoyle. It attempts to combine the usability of stock firmware with the power of OpenWrt, and I would say it's very much successful.
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anon
Which is a good way to learn! I don't think what you're saying is invalid, though. Sometimes not having to think too much is an advantage :)
Agreed. In terms of learning, there are some technical skills needed that a wrong setting can compromise...
:cheers:
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anon
Oh, and there is also a third way: Gargoyle.
Never heard of that one, year out of date compared to main branch of OpenWRT but interesting alternative if your router supports I guess