Trackers in your list of "What Trackers Offer"
Specifically referring to XXX trackers... https://filesharingtalk.com/what-trackers-offer/XXX
BMTorrents is dead
Deviloid.net is dead (shut down 2016)
Pornplace.org is dead
PornBytes is dead (shut down 2014)
Vergs is dead
Malacka is now called Bitporn: https://bitporn.eu/user/login. Registration seems to be open but I can't get the link to work.
Your Exotica is now called ExoticaZ: https://exoticaz.to/. Registration is closed.
Last stats in April 2020 from screenshots of review by opentrackers.org showed 14,270 torrents, 5965 users, 14858 seeds, 1719 leeches, 16577 peers.
BootyTape is working, has open signups.
Current stats: 18433 torrents. Peers exceed 70,000.
PornBits is working. Signups are invite only.
Stats unknown.
PussyTorrents is working, has open signups.
Current stats: 140,934 torrents, unknown user count.
Pron4.me is working, has open signups.
Current stats: 731 users, 5298 torrents, 6 seeds, 6 peers (not joking)
Cheggit.me is working, has open signups.
Current stats: 149,870 users, 7672 torrents, unknown seeds/peers
PornBay is working, signups are closed.
I posted stats in the review thread.
Empornium is working, signups are invite only.
I posted stats in the review thread.
AdultCinemaNetwork is working, signups are invite only.
Member limit of 25,000, which is currently maxed out. Review in 2019 at InviteHawk showed 12,800 torrents, 2375 peers, 2285 seeds, 90 leeches. Review in 2020 showed 12,884 torrents, 1087 peers, 1052 seeds, 35 leeches. They also both show a max member limit of 30,000. *shrug*
PornoLab is working, has open signups.
Latest number of torrents as of Jan 2020 is 684,365. Last user count was in 2018 and at over 1.3 million.
Unlisted sites to add.:
LePorno.org. Open signups. Torrent count is around 610,000. User count unknown.
CherryKiss.org. Closed signups. (2018 stats) 14296 users, 3418 torrents, 6266 peers, 6045 seeds, 221 leeches.
myporn.club. Open signups. 726 users (list shows more but the other thousands are all spam), >35,000 torrents (exact number hard to tell). Peer stats unknown.
pornoleech.io. Open signups. 1,141,212 torrents. Unknown user count.
Femdomcult.org. Closed signups. 49,000 torrents. 17,000 users.
Re: Trackers in your list of "What Trackers Offer"
Thank you! I just updated everything. Note that anyone can add new entries to the list by pressing "Post New Tracker" (https://filesharingtalk.com/wtoedit.php?do=newtracker) at the top of the list. Submissions need manual moderator approval before they're visible.
Also, I might have to check pornleech.io out if it has more torrents than Pornolab...
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Oh I missed the add-new button. For next time. Although I did wish to inform you of dead ones and update the numbers...so win win I guess? Thanks for the effort.
Ehhhh, pornleech.io you aren't missing much. I'm pretty sure the torrent tracker peer numbers are completely incorrect. I just grabbed their #1 torrent file (the celebrity sex tapes megapack) to check the announce. Pornleech says there are over 10000 peers. In reality it is more like 60. Content maybe a 10 - on May 2nd they added 319 torrents (manual counted that), which is much more than PornBay's daily amount (under 100), and not far off from Empornium's daily (around 500-550). Problem is that every torrent they have on their never gets more than 5 peers. Leads me to believe that their userbase is incredibly small. Speed is 8, overall 6 just because there are no peers and the website design is shit. Even after you login some of the pages don't work - you don't have permission to upload until some criteria are met.
Regarding PornBay, I've inquired about how to get signups and until they finish their new codebase, signups are actually 100% closed, include invitations (members aren't even being given invite codes). Their userbase is actually continuously going down as they prune duplicate and inactive accounts :(. I would rate their speed 10, content 8, overall 8.
I would rate Empornium a 10 across the board.
Regarding LePorno, it is slow as shit. Every time I try to search something, the page just stalls...not to mention that most torrents are 0 peers. I would rank their speed as 3, content 8, overall 6.
Cheggit.me's member numbers are fake. Only 4000 or so people are actually active, and many are spam. I think the admin has a real world job, so administration of the site is pretty scant. Would be nice if people would just flock there as they are the only site with the same backend as PornBay and Empornium and have open signups. A shame. Speed 10, content 4, overall 5.
MyPornClub works, but the interface is such shit. Content probably a 4, speed 8, overall 4.
PornoLab ratings I agree. Their interface is just terrible - no tags, hard to search, hell I use Google to best search their site.
Pussytorrents I agree on content and speed rating, but overall rating is too high. Not enough peers, lots of dead torrents. The highest current seeded torrent has only 99 peers. Compare this with Empornium (#1 has 965 peeds) and PornBay (388 peers). Searching is also quite a bit more challenging since they don't have tags like Emp and PB.
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throwawaybananas
Oh I missed the add-new button. For next time. Although I did wish to inform you of dead ones and update the numbers...so win win I guess? Thanks for the effort.
Not a problem and thank you for all the corrections :happy:
I checked out pornleech.io yesterday. They seem to be an aggregator of public torrents, yet stuff has to be added manually by uploaders? Also, they have these abusive pop-under ads (one per page load), and at some point during my visit the site became unusable due to redirect loops. Still, the selection of torrents is good, and everything has a cover displayed in the browse page, which is a nice touch. Worth keeping in the bookmarks I guess.
I'm fairly sure PussyTorrents does have a tag system; you may have to look for an "advanced search" option, but it's there and usable by everyone. Then you still won't be able to download a lot of stuff, but at least you'll find it faster :unsure: I made an account last year, and the amount of unseeded torrents was so high they weren't worth bothering with. Toned their overall rating down to 6.
Everything else you mentioned is now fixed!
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throwawaybananas
Cheggit.me's member numbers are fake. Only 4000 or so people are actually active, and many are spam. I think the admin has a real world job, so administration of the site is pretty scant.
Well, not everyone can life off thousands of dollars in monthly donations like IPT's owner :naughty:
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Pornbits.
# Torrents: 106,156
# users: Created accounts are over 817,000, but most are dead accounts (due to inactivity). Real active count is not shown.
# peers: unknown
Here are a few torrents to compare, to get an idea of user numbers. Same exact content, torrent created within the last week on all of these trackers (I believe the content is brand new on the source site, only one week old in each case):
Torrent #1:
PornoLab (1.3m users): 438 snatches, currently 38 seeds
Empornium (80.5k users): 168 snatches, currently 45 seeds
PornBay (61.5k users): 171 snatches, currently 44 seeds
PornBits: 197 snatches, currently 56 seeds
Torrent #2:
PLab: 1121, 84
Emp: 269, 85
PBay: 228, 67
PBits: 121, 25
Torrent #3:
PLab: 344, 33
Emp: 142, 51
PBay: 114, 23
PBits: 135, 36
Empornium sees about 500 new torrents a day. PornoLab is around 250. PornBay around 100. PornBits around 15.
TorrentInvites list says there are 800,000 users on PornBits. If that was the case, for a site designed like Emp/PBay (vs BBcode style and all in Russian like PornoLab) the numbers would be muuuuuuch higher.
Emp on Alexa site rankings is around 13,000. PornBay 33,000. PornBits 513,000. PornoLab is 3200. Cheggit.me is ranked 323,000, and their active user base is 4400 (but Cheggit.me has no content, only 3 new torrents a day)!
Based on these numbers (including the seeding numbers mentioned below) I'd estimate their active user base to be something between 5000 and 30000.
Speed I'd rate a 9. Downloading is quick. Website queries are just a HASH slow.
Content I'd rate a 5. Lots of content, but unlike PornBay and Empornium, too many are 0 peers. If i go to torrents around #25000, Empornium is fully loaded, averaging around 20 seeds. PornBay is mostly fully loaded, averaging around 10 seeds. PornBits averages about 0.5 seeds, most are 0 peers.
Overall a 7. Minimalist design, design mimics generic public torrent sites, torrent list is more friendly to peruse than PornBay and Emp.
Re: Trackers in your list of "What Trackers Offer"
Updated. I set the member count to 17000. May still be a wildly inaccurate guess (I hate that some trackers don't show basic information like this :dry:), but your logic seems sensible.
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Updated. I set the member count to 17000. May still be a wildly inaccurate guess (I hate that some trackers don't show basic information like this :dry:), but your logic seems sensible.
I think that is just the result of what software they choose to use for site design. The Empornium software, used by PornBay, Cheggit, and perhaps BootyTape, makes that information readily available to display. Maybe it is the same on PornBits? Hard to tell.
PornoLab and LePorno use the same (I'm guessing) vBulletin, which is pretty "eh", and does not easily provide that data.
Frankly, all the torrent count data I got was from looking at the torrents list page and doing some rudimentary math - X torrents/page * Y pages + Z torrents on the last page. Most don't even post that information, which is annoying.
Regarding peer count, very annoying to see it hidden as well.
I did a random sample of torrents, only took like 10 minutes.
For torrents 201-400 and 20001-20400...
Total peers:
Emp: 10500, 6300
PBay: 10900, 1400
PBits: 3800, 150
So at the very most, considering that PBay (now) has 870k peeers, and Emp (now) has 4.3 million (crazy!), PBits peer number can in no way be greater than a THIRD of PBay's, if not even lower considering the dropoff is so significant. I'm not trying to shit on PBits, they are good in their own way, I'm just trying to estimate numbers. If it was me? I am treating Emp's number as an outlier - their dedicating to seeding is crazy. PBay seems a bit more normal, but perhaps approaching outlier levels. I'd estimate PBits peer count somewhere around 200-250k, and user base (based off this new information) at 15k...your guess of 17k is probably good enough :).
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throwawaybananas
I think that is just the result of what software they choose to use for site design. The Empornium software, used by PornBay, Cheggit, and perhaps BootyTape, makes that information readily available to display. Maybe it is the same on PornBits? Hard to tell.
PornoLab and LePorno use the same (I'm guessing) vBulletin, which is pretty "eh", and does not easily provide that data.
Indeed, Gazelle is kind enough to show everything in the homepage. For other scripts, it's hit or miss. For trackers that run XBT as a backend, there was a trick to get peer statistics by loading /stats from the actual tracker your client communicates with (e.g. http://tracker.example.com:2790/announce/?passkey=... becomes http://tracker.example.com:2790/stats), may be worth a try.
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I'd estimate PBits peer count somewhere around 200-250k, and user base (based off this new information) at 15k...your guess of 17k is probably good enough :).
200000 seems reasonable for a tracker with 17000 users. However, the WTO requires that we divide seeders and leechers. If we assume the seeder/leecher ratio to be around 25:1 (based on the data you posted) on all torrents, this leaves us with 8000 leechers, does that sound okay? It seems a bit low to me.
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PBay is 14.69 S/L
Emp is 22.88 S/L
And Emp is an outlier in my opinion.
The data I posted, comma separated, were two independent numbers for total peers of torrents #200-400 and torrents number #20000-20200. Not seeds and leechers.
I would estimate that Pbits S/L ratio is maybe closer to 10:1? Maybe 8:1? At which point the number of seeds becomes 182,000 seeds, 18,000 peers (10:1 ratio). Round it to 180k/20k.
I don't follow with the announce URL. I notice that Emp, PBay and Cheg all use the announce URL which includes 2790 as the port. Where do you put the /stats thing? If I visit it as a website, it returns an error.
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throwawaybananas
The data I posted, comma separated, were two independent numbers for total peers of torrents #200-400 and torrents number #20000-20200. Not seeds and leechers.
I would estimate that Pbits S/L ratio is maybe closer to 10:1? Maybe 8:1? At which point the number of seeds becomes 182,000 seeds, 18,000 peers (10:1 ratio). Round it to 180k/20k.
Sounds closer to reality, so let's go with that :)
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I don't follow with the announce URL. I notice that Emp, PBay and Cheg all use the announce URL which includes 2790 as the port. Where do you put the /stats thing? If I visit it as a website, it returns an error.
If the tracker announce URL looks like...
Code:
http://tracker.empornium.me:2710/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/announce
Try to load either of these in a browser.
Code:
http://tracker.empornium.me:2710/stats
http://tracker.empornium.me:2710/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/stats
If you get an error or a blank page, then this feature is not available or enabled.
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For both PornBay and Emp, I get a page that just says Tracker running. Cheggit similar, but the text is unintelligible. Pornbits failed.
Side note: I think Cheggit data is broken. The only number changing from their stats is their total users (which is going up). Their active user numbers has been the same every day that I have checked it.
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throwawaybananas
For both PornBay and Emp, I get a page that just says Tracker running. Cheggit similar, but the text is unintelligible. Pornbits failed.
Well, we tried :P
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Side note: I think Cheggit data is broken. The only number changing from their stats is their total users (which is going up). Their active user numbers has been the same every day that I have checked it.
This may depend on how they define "active" or how often they check who matches the definition.
