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12-11-2003, 09:36 PM
atiVidia

how bout this! clocker, u kno how to mod things very well rite? well then, how bout creating some sort of heatpipe which carries processor/vid card/ram heat and sends it to the top of the PC. at the top, there will be a flask with a copper base to heat up water) and the top of the flask hits a cylindrical section which has a turbine, and the turbine produces power!!!!! the water goes into a separate upside down flask from there, where it cools and comes back into the copper base flask
the power would be used to cool the water in the top flask using the peltier system

heres a picture:
http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/gc...andom_idea.png

ill elaborate later
12-11-2003, 09:42 PM
Kunal

bit extravagent and i dont think it'll work either
12-11-2003, 09:55 PM
3rd gen noob

you won't be able to boil too much water with a normal pc :)
12-11-2003, 10:00 PM
raiserblade2003

from the diagram.....that is one ugly looking pc :P
12-11-2003, 10:00 PM
mooseman2070

you caN oc until it becomes like an oven in your room
12-11-2003, 10:00 PM
DarthInsinuate

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Originally posted by 3rd gen noob
you won't be able to boil too much water with a normal pc

damn, i was hoping to turn my PC into some sort of tea-maker
12-11-2003, 10:13 PM
3rd gen noob

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Originally posted by DarthInsinuate@11 December 2003 - 21:00
damn, i was hoping to turn my PC into some sort of tea-maker

settle for coffee?

http://www.computerpranks.com/downlo...e_machine.jpeg
12-11-2003, 10:17 PM
raiserblade2003

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Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+11 December 2003 - 22:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 11 December 2003 - 22:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DarthInsinuate@11 December 2003 - 21:00
damn, i was hoping to turn my PC into some sort of tea-maker

settle for coffee?

http://www.computerpranks.com/downlo...e_machine.jpeg [/b][/quote]
that is when you know you have too much time on your hand....modding your pc into a coffee machine when you there is a coffee maker for less then 50 dollars....an i thought water cooling was dangerous
12-11-2003, 10:19 PM
atiVidia

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Originally posted by Kunal@11 December 2003 - 16:42
bit extravagent and i dont think it'll work either.

if clocker doesnt try it, ill try it (connect my ram, vid card, and cpu+chipset to the contraption). if its successful, ill submit directions on how to do it!

btw i love the coffee machine 3rd gen noob!!!
12-11-2003, 10:21 PM
3rd gen noob

i seriously doubt that the idea will work
remember that you'll have to raise the water from room temperature (approx 25 degrees celsius) up to 100 degrees celsius
then you'll need to evaporate the water too

unless you're using a tiny amount of water, i can't see it working

would be interesting to see though

p.s. for the coffee site, i remember it being posted a long time ago, it never took too long to find :)
12-11-2003, 10:31 PM
3rd gen noob

ok, i just did a little bit of rough figures there, and i think that if you wanted to boil 25 grams of water then you'd need 13338J of energy

which would take a 2000W kettle (working at max efficiency) approx 7 seconds to boil

maybe this idea isn't so unfeasible :)
12-11-2003, 11:19 PM
atiVidia

http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/gc..._elaborate.png

heres what were dealing with:
--1) the heatpipe
--2) the bottom flask (copper plate under flask)
--3) the turbine (if any vapors do not exit the turbine, they will simply could cool down and trickle back into the heat source

--4) the cooling flask (mounted upside down, with copper plate on base. copper plate used for peltier effect (thermoelectric cooling of water). energy comes from turbine.
--5) valve to allow more water in

maybe i should add a valve to let water out as well... if i do, it would be at the base of the bottom flask or at the top of the turbine

turbine uses hobby shop motor (one thats a bit more powerful). of course, the thermoelectric cooling will have VERY little effect, but hey, at least youve got something to use your energy.

turbine has full-extension hollow aluminum blades (to reduce weight and to take full advantage of the water vapor)

is there a chance that this would work? yes.

will it be efficient? maybe
12-11-2003, 11:24 PM
atiVidia

this is simply a crazy way to do silent cooling, and possibly get something cooked on the copper plate labeled "4"

max efficiency (i think) if all major heat sources combined (HDD, Processor, RAM, vid chip+ vid RAM, mobo chipset
12-11-2003, 11:28 PM
Illuminati

Quote:

Originally posted by atiVidia@11 December 2003 - 22:36
heres a picture:
http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/gc...andom_idea.png

Looks like an elaborate PC-themed bong to me :huh:
12-11-2003, 11:57 PM
raiserblade2003

Quote:

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@11 December 2003 - 22:31
ok, i just did a little bit of rough figures there, and i think that if you wanted to boil 25 grams of water then you'd need 13338J of energy

which would take a 2000W kettle (working at max efficiency) approx 7 seconds to boil

maybe this idea isn't so unfeasible :)

you lost me at the

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13338J of energy

which would take a 2000W kettle (working at max efficiency) approx 7 seconds to boil

:lol: :lol: :lol:
12-12-2003, 12:03 AM
_John_Lennon_

That caffinee machine was actually one done off a good PC mods site, its not really a computer pranks image, meh, its actually a good idea, and the Coffee maker is completely seperate from the cooling of the PC.
12-12-2003, 01:16 AM
clocker

Atividia,
I am humbled by the audacity of your concept.
What have you got to lose?

You will have to insulate your heatpipes or the liquid within will recondense before it hits your copper heatplate. I also don't think that water will work at all- you'll never get it to boil.
Maybe alcohol?
The technical difficulties will be daunting, but probably surmountable.
Then you could have a little whirly thingy on your case roof.

It may be simpler ( and ultimately more beneficial) to shroud your HSF unit and duct the heat up a tube to spin a turbine blade....
12-12-2003, 02:28 AM
atiVidia

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Originally posted by clocker@11 December 2003 - 20:16
Atividia,
I am humbled by the audacity of your concept.
What have you got to lose?

You will have to insulate your heatpipes or the liquid within will recondense before it hits your copper heatplate. I also don't think that water will work at all- you'll never get it to boil.
Maybe alcohol?
The technical difficulties will be daunting, but probably surmountable.
Then you could have a little whirly thingy on your case roof.

It may be simpler ( and ultimately more beneficial) to shroud your HSF unit and duct the heat up a tube to spin a turbine blade....

so long as i can generate some sort of power to do something

meh, lifes good either way

but ill try it. if i pull it off, i will put up some pics

actually, are there any heat-to-light converters? i could make a light which would have its brightness go up as the cpu or vid chip got hotter
12-12-2003, 02:35 AM
x_gimpg

:lol: That would be bitchin, like a little indicator.
12-12-2003, 02:50 AM
bigdawgfoxx

Does the heatsink fan blow air through the heatsink or pull air up?
12-12-2003, 02:59 AM
clocker

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Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@11 December 2003 - 19:50
Does the heatsink fan blow air through the heatsink or pull air up?

Typically, I believe they blow air in, although I'm sure there are exceptions.

If you could effectively enclose the HSF area I'm sure that their would be enough airflow/heat to move a pinwheel or something.

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actually, are there any heat-to-light converters? i could make a light which would have its brightness go up as the cpu or vid chip got hotter

Yes there are.
We call them lightbulbs.
12-12-2003, 04:22 AM
atiVidia

my cuz learned this the hard way:

he wanted to feel the cpu fan while it was on (if it was blowing out, then the fan blades would be at the back end of rotation, and it wouldnt harm him if he put his finger on the fan

unfortunately, as this was an intake fan (as most tipically are), the blades were spinning contrary to his belief, and he lost a chunk of skin on his finger (remember, any fan at 4000rpm hurts, even if its made of foam!)
12-12-2003, 02:20 PM
lynx

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Originally posted by atiVidia@11 December 2003 - 22:24
this is simply a crazy way to do silent cooling, and possibly get something cooked on the copper plate labeled "4"

max efficiency (i think) if all major heat sources combined (HDD, Processor, RAM, vid chip+ vid RAM, mobo chipset

A brilliant idea.

Tea and toast. :lol:
12-12-2003, 03:26 PM
SciManAl

hey guys i was sick for about a with demonia, but i am back...

this sounds intresting altividi (or whatever you name is), however i have to say this, you will not make enough pressure with any form of steam at this scale to power a turbane... sorry to burst your buble, but i have tried it already... unless you want 2-5 volts... as for the cooling everything idea, that is something i have almost finished. It works well, very well. make your aims for these qaulities:

1) All heat gets outside the case, ALL heat, PSU, CPU, VID, HARDDRIVE, etc

2) Quiet, this method can make silent PCs that have very good cooling qualties

3) for a liqaud water will not work, unless you lett the devise you are cooling to get hot enough to boil the water... now if you research alittle you will want to find a liquad that will evaporate at as close to room temprature as possible, the point at wich it boils will be the overall temps of the system... then the liqaud would come up into a bigass passive copper heatsink... were it wil condense... also you will want to have lots of liqaud in the system as a buffer to make sure there is water touching hot stoff at al times...

3) regular water cooling parts won't work... allot of this wil have to be custom fab.

4) have fun!

ok, this is what i have to say on the topic...
12-12-2003, 03:30 PM
BawA

look's like kichen :lol:
12-12-2003, 07:09 PM
3rd gen noob

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Originally posted by raiserblade2003+11 December 2003 - 22:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (raiserblade2003 @ 11 December 2003 - 22:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob@11 December 2003 - 22:31
ok, i just did a little bit of rough figures there, and i think that if you wanted to boil 25 grams of water then you'd need 13338J of energy

which would take a 2000W kettle (working at max efficiency) approx 7 seconds to boil

maybe this idea isn't so unfeasible  :)

you lost me at the

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13338J of energy

which would take a 2000W kettle (working at max efficiency) approx 7 seconds to boil

:lol: :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
why?
are my figures wrong? :">
12-12-2003, 07:45 PM
atiVidia

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Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+12 December 2003 - 14:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 12 December 2003 - 14:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

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Originally posted by raiserblade2003@11 December 2003 - 22:57
<!--QuoteBegin-3rd gen noob

Quote:

@11 December 2003 - 22:31
ok, i just did a little bit of rough figures there, and i think that if you wanted to boil 25 grams of water then you'd need 13338J of energy

which would take a 2000W kettle (working at max efficiency) approx 7 seconds to boil

maybe this idea isn't so unfeasible :)

you lost me at the

Quote:

13338J of energy

which would take a 2000W kettle (working at max efficiency) approx 7 seconds to boil

:lol: :lol: :lol:

why?
are my figures wrong? :"> [/b][/quote]
no, he's not as good at math or chem as u r
12-13-2003, 12:47 AM
3rd gen noob

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Originally posted by atiVidia@12 December 2003 - 18:45
no, he's not as good at math or chem as u r

oh, ok
12-15-2003, 12:13 AM
x_gimpg

Bump!

Any success?
12-15-2003, 12:32 AM
SciManAl

i doubt he has as far as generating power... but that is just a guess :P ok sorry for being critical, but my mind screams no... :lol: