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12-19-2003, 03:01 AM
opivykid

Ok, this will be my last damn post about video cards, and then I shall leave you alone. I need a good card that'll last me a good amount of time, yet I dont have $300 to get the 9800Pro.....................

I've heard good things about the 9500Pro, and the 9600xt, yet I don't know how the compare, so I shall ask the people on this site, who know their shit, to give me some info on what would fit the description above. (as you can see, I did not post any Nvidia's, because 1) I'm not really familiar with them, and 2), I've heard shit reviews about them, but it's all good)

Thanks!
12-19-2003, 03:16 AM
Livy

depending on how much you got, get a 9600 series card, as its a direct 9 card, there are 4 the 9600se, 9600, 9600 pro, 9600xt
12-19-2003, 03:19 AM
_John_Lennon_

Quote:

Originally posted by Livy@18 December 2003 - 22:16
depending on how much you got, get a 9600 series card, as its a direct 9 card, there are 4 the 9600se, 9600, 9600 pro, 9600xt

From a review site I got.

Because the 9700 and 9500 cards are essentially the cards with very slight differences, the two share the very same features, including full support for DirectX9.0.

The 9500 DOES support dx 9.0
12-19-2003, 03:24 AM
Livy

:rolleyes: oops so it does,

im pretty sure the 9600 is a new version of the 9500, same kinda range.

same with 9700 and 9800.
12-19-2003, 03:40 AM
SciManAl

go to the web site and check the card speeds...
12-19-2003, 04:04 AM
_John_Lennon_

Quote:

Originally posted by Livy@18 December 2003 - 22:24
:rolleyes: oops so it does,

im pretty sure the 9600 is a new version of the 9500, same kinda range.

same with 9700 and 9800.

Np, im getting a 9500 Pro for 100$ in a few days, so I have to know about these kinda things.
12-19-2003, 04:07 AM
raiserblade2003

Quote:

Originally posted by _John_Lennon_+19 December 2003 - 04:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (_John_Lennon_ @ 19 December 2003 - 04:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Livy@18 December 2003 - 22:24
:rolleyes:  oops so it does,

im pretty sure the 9600 is a new version of the 9500, same kinda range.

same with 9700 and 9800.

Np, im getting a 9500 Pro for 100$ in a few days, so I have to know about these kinda things. [/b][/quote]
9500 pro for 100? where? how?
12-19-2003, 09:54 AM
DWk

so the 9600se isnt as good as the 9600? tsk tsk....

what is that?

SHIT edition? :P
12-19-2003, 10:05 AM
Kunal

Quote:

Originally posted by DWk@19 December 2003 - 10:54
so the 9600se isnt as good as the 9600? tsk tsk....

what is that?

SHIT edition? :P

Pretty much, yeh, i think ATi would ather call it second edition though ;)
12-19-2003, 10:06 AM
DWk

or sorry-ass edition :rolleyes:
12-20-2003, 07:05 PM
opivykid

Which out of the 4 9600 series card's is the best? And with the best one, what would be a good price for it?
12-20-2003, 07:08 PM
3rd gen noob

Quote:

Originally posted by opivykid@20 December 2003 - 18:05
Which out of the 4 9600 series card's is the best? And with the best one, what would be a good price for it?

the 9600xt is the most powerful at default settings :)
price depends on where you are...
12-20-2003, 07:10 PM
TheFilePirater

my 5200 is awsome...i havent had any probs wit the following..

call of duty
celeb deathmatch
nfs underground
midnight club 2
command and conquer
XIII

so many more...
12-20-2003, 07:20 PM
opivykid

Nive then I shall go with the 9600xt.

What do you mean by "price depends on where you are..."? US, if that helps any....

Also, how long do you guys think the xt will last me before I must purchase another card to keep up with new games?
12-22-2003, 05:03 AM
opivykid

So your saying that the "ATi Radeon 9600XT 128MB" is better than the "ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB"? I'm guessing the mb's really don't matter much, but just to be sure...........

Also, if you were to buy the card, and you lived in the USA, where would you get it from?
12-22-2003, 05:07 AM
adamp2p

Quote:

Originally posted by opivykid@22 December 2003 - 06:03
So your saying that the "ATi Radeon 9600XT 128MB" is better than the "ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB"? I'm guessing the mb's really don't matter much, but just to be sure...........

Also, if you were to buy the card, and you lived in the USA, where would you get it from?

Definately, all of the 9600's with 256 mb ram all use crappy, high latency ram.

Read the fine print and you will see.

AFAIK the 9600 XT uses Samsung 2.86ms ram and should be an excellent overclocking candidate.

However, if you are shorter on cash than you would like to be, you could also get the 9600 pro and overclock it to the speeds of the XT.
12-22-2003, 05:10 AM
opivykid

Nice then the XT is mine. "Also, if you were to buy the card, and you lived in the USA, where would you get it from?" = ? I'm hopeing for some sort of good price, because who knows what Best Buy sells it for.......
12-22-2003, 05:17 AM
raiserblade2003

are u planning on retail store or internet....the net is almost always cheaper....i know u can find a 9600xt on pricewatch for 156 us dollars
12-23-2003, 12:01 AM
opivykid

Nice thanks.

EDIT = On pricewatch they list it as 128mb, and 256mb, which one shall I buy?
12-23-2003, 01:19 AM
_John_Lennon_

Depends on the pricing, but to be honest, NO GAMES out today even start to tap that extra 128MB of video memory. Heck, Half Life 2 probably wont either.

256MB for memory is just un needed right now.
12-23-2003, 02:18 AM
opivykid

Well yes, yet I'm looking into the future, and I'm just wondering, because adamp2p said that the cards that use 256mb suck, so I'm just looking for a 2nd opinion before I drop the $$ for the card...
12-23-2003, 02:22 AM
DWk

look the problem with cards today is that they use directx9 in the engine..... this doesnt make the card use the 128mb.....but makes the card use more than needed....

if all games used openGL systems....we would still be using our mx440's!

heck enemy territory and call of duty use this and these games run easily on my card..... tsk tsk developers....

thats why v0od0o is coming back baby.....and its coming back with opengl hand-by-hand!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
12-23-2003, 03:54 AM
opivykid

That went straight over my head. Is that a good thing if a bad thing.....?

So XT 256mb, or XT 128mb? (remember = FUTURE)
12-23-2003, 03:58 AM
DWk

amount of video ram (128 or 256) isnt what makes a card powerful..... but its chipset.... the ti4600 can still beat a 5600 in some areas cuz it has a VERY powerful chipset
12-23-2003, 04:25 AM
opivykid

Oh I see, thanks.

so does this look good?

Or this ?
12-23-2003, 04:30 AM
DWk

i think they are the same..... but i havent heard of connect3d cards..... just heard that saphire's are good
12-23-2003, 04:32 AM
opivykid

Cool, then I shall get that card and hope for the best.
12-23-2003, 04:37 AM
DWk

gl :)
12-23-2003, 04:56 AM
Keikan

Quote:

Originally posted by opivykid@22 December 2003 - 20:54
That went straight over my head. Is that a good thing if a bad thing.....?

So XT 256mb, or XT 128mb? (remember = FUTURE)

remember UPGRADEABLE
12-23-2003, 05:33 AM
raiserblade2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Keikan+23 December 2003 - 04:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Keikan @ 23 December 2003 - 04:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-opivykid@22 December 2003 - 20:54
That went straight over my head. Is that a good thing if a bad thing.....?

So XT 256mb, or XT 128mb? (remember = FUTURE)

remember UPGRADEABLE [/b][/quote]
how are you goign to upgrad the rams? but if you're talking about upgrading the gfx card, thats whats hes doing now and he want it to last some time.
12-23-2003, 05:35 AM
opivykid

Indeed, Keikan, if you could, explain what you ment?

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