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yes
every hyperlink u clicked
every packet u sent and received
every encrypted transmittions (wire tap it then decrypt if they have the resources and determiniation)
so yeah u r screwed :lol:
They keep logs of the activity of all their clients but will only look at those logs if they have a reason to B)
Short and simple answer:Quote:
Originally posted by Zedaxax@23 December 2003 - 19:53
Do they?
Yes. :)
I tough they only knew when you logged on and how much data you received/transfered
yes.Quote:
Originally posted by Zedaxax@24 December 2003 - 03:53
Do they?
In reality they mostly only keep records for a few days, unless there is a specific reason to keep them longer. That is in the UK.
However the short answer is yes. They know everything you do, who you do it with and for how long.
That does not mean they know everything you have ever done, they simply don't keep those sort of records. Like I said, unless they have a specific reason to.
As everyone else has said, YES.
Everything you do goes through there servers, so they know EVERYTHING, most ISP's dont keep the data for longer than 1week although a few ISP's filter out anything from p2p programs and save that forever, in case someone tries to sue them, so they can just blame you with proof :P .
I'd hate to see my log take years to print out lol... :beerchug:Quote:
few ISP's filter out anything from p2p programs and save that forever
:ph34r:
if you are worried about security and privacy:
check out this:
http://www.anonx.com/
plus if you search, there are a few threads on it also.
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I don't get it - doesnt everything go first thru my internet provider - and then to AnonX (or other privacy services)?Quote:
AnonX V1.1 for Windows 2000/XP compatible.
So my Web provider still gets all info...
Or?
That can't stop your ISP from getting your info but it is a great way to stop other ppl from gettin the info. :)Quote:
Originally posted by ugc@25 December 2003 - 05:53
:ph34r:
if you are worried about security and privacy:
check out this:
http://www.anonx.com/
plus if you search, there are a few threads on it also.
Although I am opposed to shameless advertisement of paid services, it does actually encrypt data packets to prevent your Internet Service Provider from intercepting the data.Quote:
Originally posted by eug1404@25 December 2003 - 14:21
That can't stop your ISP from getting your info but it is a great way to stop other ppl from gettin the info. :)
They dont care!
If they would report every single computer who uses kazaalite
there would be no business for the ISP. ;)
That's true, because they are paying for all of this and if they do check your log, you should b proud because they are spending money on YOU :P
Yes and No.
Yes:
It *is* possible for them to log every single thing that you do, timestamp it and store every byte of data that you download and upload, if they really want to.
No:
Think about how much information that is. They cannot practically log all of what you do and then keep in indefinitely, because they just wouldn't have enough storage space. In practice most ISPS will log perhaps every time you connect/disconnect to another computer and keep these logs for a week or two.
As such it's probable that your ISP could work out that you are using Kazaa/Kazaa Lite/whatever from their logs, but it is unlikely that they will know what you are downloading as the name of the mp3/movie/whatever is stored as meta data within the file, and they will almost certainly not be logging the file data as it would take up so much space on their servers.
However, it would in theory be possible for them to filter their logs so that they detect kazaa connections and then extract and log the meta data from the file transfer... I don't think anyone is actually doing that at the moment though.
If they were, it would probably be trivial to bypass though (perhaps by tricking it into not thinking you're running kazaa by changing the port number?)
First,
Most ISP DO NOT want logs of any type. They are a pain in the butt to maintain. In most cases they store the last time you logged in.
There are only two cases where an ISP will track your activity.
1. You are a high end users eating up tons of bandwidth. They do this to find an excuse to get ride of you.
2. You are a "abuse case" and RIAA is knocking on the door with a subpena, then the ISP may or may not start tracking you down. Which is a pain for a large ISP.
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Secondly,
With AnonX all your ISP sees is encrypted VPN traffic. Perfect it. There is no reason for the ISP to block you, turn you off, or .......
anonx is here to save the day..... :lol:
Is this true?Quote:
Originally posted by AnonXO@27 December 2003 - 22:32
First,
Most ISP DO NOT want logs of any type. They are a pain in the butt to maintain. In most cases they store the last time you logged in.
There are only two cases where an ISP will track your activity.
1. You are a high end users eating up tons of bandwidth. They do this to find an excuse to get ride of you.
2. You are a "abuse case" and RIAA is knocking on the door with a subpena, then the ISP may or may not start tracking you down. Which is a pain for a large ISP.
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Secondly,
With AnonX all your ISP sees is encrypted VPN traffic. Perfect it. There is no reason for the ISP to block you, turn you off, or .......
Is this true? [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Keikan+28 December 2003 - 07:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Keikan @ 28 December 2003 - 07:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-AnonXO@27 December 2003 - 22:32
First,
Most ISP DO NOT want logs of any type. They are a pain in the butt to maintain. In most cases they store the last time you logged in.
There are only two cases where an ISP will track your activity.
1. You are a high end users eating up tons of bandwidth. They do this to find an excuse to get ride of you.
2. You are a "abuse case" and RIAA is knocking on the door with a subpena, then the ISP may or may not start tracking you down. Which is a pain for a large ISP.
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Secondly,
With AnonX all your ISP sees is encrypted VPN traffic. Perfect it. There is no reason for the ISP to block you, turn you off, or .......
Ofcource it is. 'Don't think twice ;)'
Kazaa Lite may make 1-10 new connections a second while even just 'idling away' if you have even a handful (fewer than 20) unfinished downloads.Quote:
Originally posted by AnonXO@28 December 2003 - 00:32
First,
Most ISP DO NOT want logs of any type. They are a pain in the butt to maintain. In most cases they store the last time you logged in.
There are only two cases where an ISP will track your activity.
1. You are a high end users eating up tons of bandwidth. They do this to find an excuse to get ride of you.
2. You are a "abuse case" and RIAA is knocking on the door with a subpena, then the ISP may or may not start tracking you down. Which is a pain for a large ISP.
Going to web pages often opens more than 1 connection as well, due to many web banners being on different ips/servers.
Logging ALL the connection attempts (even failed ones) and duration could overwhelm an ISP that tries to do that for everyone.
It's a BIG DEAL just for Verizon to track whether/when someone using their service is online and what their ip address is. When RIAA started demanding names on such a large scale, they said they'd have a hard time getting that info fast enough... even if they WANTED to!
If your internet provider has had a request to "crack down" on a particular download, ie. a movie file, as of late: 21 Grams. Your provider will look for users who have downloaded this file and send out a warning to you about copyright infringement. At least, that's how it works in Canada at the moment.
Is that site like form the makers of kazaaQuote:
Originally posted by ugc@25 December 2003 - 01:53
:ph34r:
if you are worried about security and privacy:
check out this:
http://www.anonx.com/
plus if you search, there are a few threads on it also.