On this motherboard:
http://www.softwareandstuff.com/mb_4mdpt.html
It says that the AGP slot can only support 1.5V AGP card only. Does this mean i won't be able to get a decent graphics card on it.
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On this motherboard:
http://www.softwareandstuff.com/mb_4mdpt.html
It says that the AGP slot can only support 1.5V AGP card only. Does this mean i won't be able to get a decent graphics card on it.
I dont know what the standard voltage for an AGP slot it, but I will check mine next time I reboot.
That is probably the standard voltage for 4x cards, meaning you wont be able to run 8x cards at 8x speeds.
will most recent games run at 4 speed?
and will a 8 speed card work on a 4 speed AGP slot?
what exactly do you mean you cant get a decent graphic card on it....if you're mistaking the 1.5v for 1.5x(there isnt such a thing) its not. 1.5v sounds right....either that or 2.5....something like that.
Yeah, as far as I know games dont have the requirements of a 4x or so game. Usually the only requirements are so many MB's of Ram to run it, and Direct X software.Quote:
Originally posted by hugoharding@23 January 2004 - 18:55
will most recent games run at 4 speed?
Oh btw, if you are looking into buying that board, I looked around abit and compared prices and specs, and you should take a look at this one Newegg has.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc....-128-221&depa=1
Looks nice, Under 60 bucks for a board with 800Mhz FSB, 8x AGP, and SATA :-)
1.5v is standard for all motherboards for agp slots. meaning an 8x card will run at 8x.
but of course his board is 4x, so it wont support 8x.Quote:
Originally posted by pc-gamer-dude@23 January 2004 - 20:05
1.5v is standard for all motherboards for agp slots. meaning an 8x card will run at 8x.
How much will it affect game play if it is only a 4 speed motherboard?
Depending on your graphics card (which I can't see mentioned), the difference in performance between 4x AGP and 8x AGP will be very small, perhaps even nothing. AGP 8x is only really needed on high end graphics cards or at high resolutions.Quote:
Originally posted by hugoharding@24 January 2004 - 14:41
How much will it affect game play if it is only a 4 speed motherboard?
This is the graphics card:Quote:
Originally posted by 4th gen@24 January 2004 - 14:45
Depending on your graphics card (which I can't see mentioned), the difference in performance between 4x AGP and 8x AGP will be very small,
http://www.thepcmanuk.com/Shop/Product_Det...&RP=51217&BSP=0
This is the graphics card:Quote:
Originally posted by hugoharding+24 January 2004 - 14:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hugoharding @ 24 January 2004 - 14:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@24 January 2004 - 14:45
Depending on your graphics card (which I can't see mentioned), the difference in performance between 4x AGP and 8x AGP will be very small,
http://www.thepcmanuk.com/Shop/Product_Det...&RP=51217&BSP=0 [/b][/quote]
You've got nothing to worry about. The difference between AGP 4x and 8x on that card will be very small.
thanks for the help, i think this topic is finished now.
I wouldn't say it's finished because none of you know the significance of 1.5v AGP slots.Quote:
Originally posted by hugoharding@24 January 2004 - 16:10
thanks for the help, i think this topic is finished now.
AGP 4x and 8x are 1.5v, whereas AGP 2x is 3.3v.
If you have a 2x AGP card and put it into a 4x-/8x-only slot, you could fuck the board circuitry.
Aren't you glad I'm around, eh? :D
actually agp8x only uses .8 volts. but it does just fine with the 1.5 volts, it just dont take it all. agp4x uses the full 1.5v. and agp2x and below uses the 3.3v. and yes i do understand the importance of having the correct voltage.
Why do they use lower voltage?
im not sure, i guess so they can run cooler while still being faster, but ud have to ask a true hardware expert for that one. i just know that agp4x and agp2x arnt compatible (u can use an agp4x card in an agp2x mobo, but the card is gonna run at 2x, it wont hurt the card, but u cant use a 2x gfx card in a 4x slot, first of all the card wont fit, but if its forced it will ruin the mobo and probably the card to). but 8x and 4x are compatible with each other backwards and forwards.
I didn't realise that. Thanx.Quote:
Originally posted by pc-gamer-dude+25 January 2004 - 03:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pc-gamer-dude @ 25 January 2004 - 03:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>actually agp8x only uses .8 volts...[/b]
It's not the card 'taking' the right voltage, but the system supplying the correct level.Quote:
Originally posted by pc-gamer-dude@25 January 2004 - 03:52
...but it does just fine with the 1.5 volts, it just dont take it all...
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...agp4x uses the full 1.5v. and agp2x and below uses the 3.3v. and yes i do understand the importance of having the correct voltage.[/quote]From your previous post that wasn't very clear.
There are 'universal' AGP slots that conform to specs 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 and you can put in any old AGP gfx card and it'll work but there's others (such as on my Soltek) that are 3.0 only and not compatible with older spec cards.
Yeah, I'm of a mind, too, that they do it to overcome heat issues where GPU speeds are spiralling and data is being transferred at a much faster rate.Quote:
Originally posted by pc-gamer-dude@25 January 2004 - 04:10
im not sure, i guess so they can run cooler while still being faster, but ud have to ask a true hardware expert for that one. i just know that agp4x and agp2x arnt compatible (u can use an agp4x card in an agp2x mobo, but the card is gonna run at 2x, it wont hurt the card, but u cant use a 2x gfx card in a 4x slot, first of all the card wont fit, but if its forced it will ruin the mobo and probably the card to). but 8x and 4x are compatible with each other backwards and forwards.
There's an extra ridge in the 4x+ slots isn't there? Unless you cut another slot in a 2x card's edge connector, you're not really gonna get it in by mistake!
yeah, the 4x has an extra space in bewteen so u cant mess up, and so more data can transfer simultaniously.
Backwards? Uhhhhh depends on the card. Some cards are 8x only (this reduces their price), while some are 8x-4xQuote:
Originally posted by pc-gamer-dude@24 January 2004 - 21:10
but 8x and 4x are compatible with each other backwards and forwards.
Backwards? Uhhhhh depends on the card. Some cards are 8x only (this reduces their price), while some are 8x-4x [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by DWk+25 January 2004 - 14:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 25 January 2004 - 14:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-pc-gamer-dude@24 January 2004 - 21:10
but 8x and 4x are compatible with each other backwards and forwards.
ive never heard of a single card like that. unless you mean agp pro.
ive never heard of a single card like that. unless you mean agp pro. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by pc-gamer-dude+25 January 2004 - 10:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pc-gamer-dude @ 25 January 2004 - 10:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by DWk@25 January 2004 - 14:25
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@24 January 2004 - 21:10
but 8x and 4x are compatible with each other backwards and forwards.
Backwards? Uhhhhh depends on the card. Some cards are 8x only (this reduces their price), while some are 8x-4x
Of an 8x only card?
EDIT - By the way, I got this info from a friend, haven't seen an actual card of this, but he's a reliable source. Forgot to mention this in my previous post :(