Gfx Card For The Price

i just got a new mobo thats now AGP8X ande i needed a new card anyway and flicking thru a english pc mag (im from uk) i came across and add for a GeForce FX 5600XT 256mb card for about £70 thats with VAT and delivery and everything.

Am i write in thinking XT means an upgrade from the usual 5600?
also is this a good price becasue its about 100$ roughly and it is 256 and an FX card compared to my MMX 440.
I will be mainly using the card for playing newer games on highest settings.

As aposed to that card i have also seen a deal for an ATI Radeon 9200SE 128mb i have been led to belive ther SE is a 'watered down' version of the card offering now as much power but at a cheaper price. this card is about £35 which includes VAT and P&P.

which nout of these two cards is going to be better, or can anyone find me a better card for extream gaming for under the £70 mark Inc Vat and P&P.

an se in Radeon means it is lower end then a regular,pro or XT
however an XT in nVidia is the lower end as apose to a regular, or ultra

but out of those 2, the 5600XT is way better

so do you think i should go for it? or could i get a better one for the same price do you think? its going to be used for File editing and half likfe 2/doom3 on quite high settings if not maximum so i need a beast but £70 is as far as i can streach.

hay and one more think. my pc has been in for repair so i havent been on here in a while but wheres my fucking sig? :blink:

hmm where are you from?
UK?
I'll look around for ya as soon as I know where your from

yeah Uk in england near london. and quick respons btw ;)

lol thanks
that doesnt sound like a BAD price for that card, I'm sure you could find cheaper though, who makes it? ie Appolo, Aopen, Chaintech, etc
EDIT also is it OEM or Retail?

im unsure at the moment because its an advert in a pc mag and info is limited im just about to go to there website and check it out, and i would have thought its retail cause no mention of OEM on it or any of the parts in the add.

just if you want to have a look the place is HERE The item in discussion in about half way down the home page.


thnx for the help :rolleyes:

Edit: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm just looked myself and find the site very unhelpful, doesnt tell much, they pritty much every and any gfx card thats either ATI or Nvidia there however im not that up-to-date on the new gfx card prices and stuff, so some help would be apreciated.

yeah that info is REALLY limited
However on newegg, which is a very good store in the us, you can get a 5600XT 256mb for 110, which converts to 58 in the UK, a little cheaper, so I'm sure theres better prices around, I'll keep lookin for you though

Kai

EDIT the one on the homepage is the 128 mb version, but i found the 256 on there anyway B)

kwl they got some good stuff on newegg however i wod prefur a Uk based company but if its going to save me money i dont mind. is the 5600XT going to be good for playing games and film editing?

the 5600XT is a mid range card, so nothing really really good, but it is not a budget card or anything, it would definatly do it's job, and should play HL2 w/ no problems as well.
I would find out if newegg ships to the uk though, or maybe ask someone here about any good uk sites, i'm from canada, so I'm not to familiar with stores in the UK, sorry :(


Kai

s'oik thanks for the info, also whats the ATI like version of the 5600XT if you will? maybe i could find that cheaper if it does the same stuff then i will b happy all i hnt is my new games ?(NFSU, UT2004 etc etc) on full settings to full enjoy the game.
and again thnx for the help.

you want a 5600xt to play hl2 and doom3 on high if not maximum setting? i got one word for u.....hahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha lol. that isnt going to be able to handle it on low/ minimal setting. 5600xt are 64 bit memory bandwidth just like 9200se. so try to stretch ur budge a bit more and get a 5600 or 9600...it isnt that much more but the increase in performance in huge

the 5600XT will play HL2.....I would put money on it
high settings maybe not, but it'd be better then a 9200se

cheapest 9200se 128mb on ebuyer http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/in...oduct_uid=51649 £32.40

that site u posted to is only free delivery on orders over 100 if u didnt notice it.

he's not getting a 9200se....but thanks :P

Whats your budget mate?

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Originally posted by kaiweiler@16 February 2004 - 01:48
he's not getting a 9200se....but thanks :P

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oops, i was just putting a price comparisson, will go get it for 5600xt to see.

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that site u posted to is only free delivery on orders over 100 if u didnt notice it

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yeah but im either gonna get a 80Gb hard drive or a better cpu plus its a Uk company so its gonna b cheaper than shipping.

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you want a 5600xt to play hl2 and doom3 on high if not maximum setting? i got one word for u.....hahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha lol. that isnt going to be able to handle it on low/ minimal setting. 5600xt are 64 bit memory bandwidth just like 9200se. so try to stretch ur budge a bit more and get a 5600 or 9600...it isnt that much more but the increase in performance in huge

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1)like i sed i dont know many new cards, i say bring back Vodoo's :rolleyes:
2)how much more is a 5600? which is better a 9600 or the 5600? whats gonna b the preformance diffance?
3)You got any evidence to back up that half life crap? cause on a site then had a enter ur spec and they tell u if it plays and on my current spec i can play on mid.

all right, if your going for it check them out with http://www.ebuyer.co.uk there pretty good price wise.

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Originally posted by RGX@16 February 2004 - 01:50
Whats your budget mate?

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£70 give or take £10 im straped for cash. needs to inc Vat and P&P really. needs to be a gd card as well, i aint gonna b able to buy another one in 8 months this has got to last 12-18months if not more.

[quote]Originally posted by peerzyboy@16 February 2004 - 01:50

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that site u posted to is only free delivery on orders over 100 if u didnt notice it

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yeah but im either gonna get a 80Gb hard drive or a better cpu plus its a Uk company so its gonna b cheaper than shipping.

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you want a 5600xt to play hl2 and doom3 on high if not maximum setting? i got one word for u.....hahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha lol. that isnt going to be able to handle it on low/ minimal setting. 5600xt are 64 bit memory bandwidth just like 9200se. so try to stretch ur budge a bit more and get a 5600 or 9600...it isnt that much more but the increase in performance in huge /QUOTE]
1)like i sed i dont know many new cards, i say bring back Vodoo's :rolleyes:
2)how much more is a 5600? which is better a 9600 or the 5600? whats gonna b the preformance diffance?
3)You got any evidence to back up that half life crap? cause on a site then had a enter ur spec and they tell u if it plays and on my current spec i can play on mid.

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Currently, if you want high image quality, Ati are the leaders, because their cards are far better with the AAF etc turned up.....i would look for a 9600 or a 9600xt.....possibly a 9700 if you can find one cheap, because most can be overclocked into pros.

You may be able to play according to the minimum specs on HL2, but if you want it to look good and not to lag then an ATI is in order methinks.

yes my mates got an ATi and works the wonders on his piece of shit. how much are these 9600 and 9700's? what price range am i looking at here?

right, just saw your other post, so its fair to say £80's your max right?


http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/home.php?cat=416

Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9600 128mb DVI Retail
Embodying the unbridled dreams of the avid gamer the RADEON™ 9600 ATLANTIS SMARTSHADER™ 2.1 and SMOOTHVISION™ 2.1 technologies construct detail rich worlds peppered with ill-intentioned villains brought to life by DirectX® 9.0 and OpenGL 2.0.

In Stock
[SHIPS TODAY]
£66.08 ex.VAT £77.64 inc.VAT
(€93.43 ex.VAT €109.78 inc. VAT)


You could always overclock it to be a pro, then it would realy perform great, not bad standard either

whats that card going to give me as an advantage over the 5600 or the Nvidia version of it. the deal looks very good, howveer i havent even oc'ed anything but have been lookking into and downloading alot of things that should help me oc my cpu.

also the card up from it:

Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9600 256Mb DVI Retail Boxed
Embodying the unbridled dreams of the avid gamer the RADEON™ 9600 ATLANTIS SMARTSHADER™ 2.1 and SMOOTHVISION™ 2.1 technologies construct detail rich worlds peppered with ill-intentioned villains brought to life by DirectX® 9.0 and OpenGL 2.0

its about £7 more if its gonna increase gaming by alot etc etc i could push for that

EDIT: also on the card you linked to it says: NB. Lite Version Supplied in the spefications. does this mean its a lite version and what does that mean? does it mean the card is craper or i lose the free shit?

The 9600 128 is a good card for that price, it would preform better then the 5600XT
and dont listen to buddy talkin shit about not bein able to play HL2, he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about to say the least.
but yes, the 9600 would be a better bet over the 5600XT, and Oc'ing isn't difficult, just get a temp monitor and maybe read up a bit, it's nothing hard though
as for the 128 or the 256, theres a lot of controversy over the 256, debating on whether its worth it, myself i dont think it is, i would save your money if you are on a budget, as no current games are intense enough to use 256mb of memory anyway, 128 is plenty

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also on the card you linked to it says: NB. Lite Version Supplied in the spefications. does this mean its a lite version and what does that mean? does it mean the card is craper or i lose the free shit?

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nope it is retail so you wouldnt lose any software or anything that is bundled with it, not sure what that means though, however you dont lose your software or anything

256mb of memory isnt worth having mate, it tends to be slower memory, and no games use it yet, so by the time they do need 256mb of memory, your cards architecture will be out of date anyway :)

OC'ing a graphics card is relativley easy, you can do whats called soft modding, where a driver or BIOS flash convinces your card its faster than it actually is, convinces it its a pro model. The downside is increased temperature, so it would be good to pick one with a fan or a big heatsink, but there shouldnt be any major difficulties if your careful and research what your doing

but i sed this card will hav to last 1-2 years so in 18months to get full proformaance will i need a 256mb? also apart from playing games that need a min of 256 over 128 does the card offer anything better like better tranfur or some dhit like that, thjat makes it work faster?

Edit: i just got a new mobo and it came with temp stuf in the bios on just turning it on cpu stays at about 48 but system is 41. i have 1 fan over my motherfucker of a duron but nothing else.

no as RGX said when you get the 256, it tends to be lower quality memory as opposed to fast 128, which is more then enough to handle any game within the next 2 years most likly
yes you would most likly want to pick up another 80mm probably as well, those are only £3-4 though

ati radeons should have a fan built on....if not they have a big heatsink to handle cooling, so oc'ing shouldnt be a problem

Trust me, by the time games are asking for 256mb of memory to run your card's architecture will be too slow to handle it....there will prob be a new direct x out which it doesnt support

If you get a 256, it will prob run slower than a 128 due to the crappier memory

so u guys think this will b the best for me? if so i think i will go rob up and ask for donations from everyone i know and order it.
thnx

No problem, once you have it and got it installed, feel free to ask for overclocking advice, I have an MX440 overclocked nice and high, and a load of guys here know a lot about the subject, so if your not sure, ASK or that 80 quid card might turn to charcoal :D

yup, i'd say go for it!
Good luck mate! :pimp: