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03-19-2004, 01:55 PM
abu_has_the_power

i play splinter cell. everything is fine, then i hear a click, sorta like the click that u hear when u turn on the computer. then the hdd lights just go on, and don't go off. ususally while playing a game, the hdd lights don't do much unless ur loading, but i wasn't loading. the hdd lights don't turn off. i exit the game, and the hdd lights go off in a bit. in a minute or 2, the comp crashes. it has happened 4-5 times now, starting with ut2k4 and now splinter cell. wtf??? :huh:? the click sounds like when u turn on the comp, so could it be that my psu is failing? when i shut down after it crashes, i put my hand on the psu, and it's unusually hot. :unsure: :unsure: :o

:helpsmile: :helpsmile: :frusty:

and the last 2 times that it crashed, i quit the game, and opened speedfan, and everything crashed. that happened twice
03-19-2004, 02:36 PM
ck-uk

It could be many things abu esp' the way your a nutta for overclock everything.

I've had it happen before ,reinstalling my g/fx drivers fixed it. :unsure: :)
03-19-2004, 04:01 PM
tesco

put it all back to stock speeds\voltages and try it then see if it frezes.
03-19-2004, 04:07 PM
3RA1N1AC

i just had a problem similar to the one you described, pretty recently... one of my HDs was locking up, making the OS slow down to a crawl, the HD light would stay on indefinitely, until the HD would actually shut off and disappear from Windows & i'd have to reboot to get the HD working again. it happened every couple of days... then i got a new C: drive, took the comp apart, put it back together, reformatted, and one of the other drives started doing the same thing every few minutes. i decided that the IDE cable might have something to do with it, so i took it out, put in a new one, and the problem went away.

try swapping in a different IDE cable, and maybe plug it into a different IDE port on the mobo. if you're using a flat cable, make sure that it's not crimped or creased, and that it's not touching anything really hot like a heatsink or the surface of a drive. and double-check to make sure the connections are pressed in firmly... a loose IDE cable could create probs.

also, as a "just in case"-- run scandisk in order to fix/quarantine any bad sectors that may exist. that's not an uncommon defect at all... bad sectors develop pretty easily on HDs that were originally in perfect condition when you first bought 'em. bad spots can also grow bigger, so it's a good idea idea to run scandisk every couple of weeks or whenever you remember to, just to help the system keep tabs on the "health" of the HD.

anyway, it sounds like an HD or IDE cable prob to me, not a PSU prob. the PSU is supposed to be hot. that's why it's got a fan in it... 'cause it has like 300 or 400 watts of electricity running through it.
03-19-2004, 09:44 PM
abu_has_the_power

none of this explains y my psu is so hot though. it's unusually hot
03-19-2004, 10:47 PM
Chewie

Quote:

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@19 March 2004 - 21:44
none of this explains y my psu is so hot though. it's unusually hot

Do the problems have to be related?
No, you may have two issues.

I also came across this problem and suspected the IDE cable, but swapping it made no difference.
I tried the hard drive in another machine, ran scandisk in thorough mode, and it happened again. Faulty HDD. It took longer to lock up the longer the machine had been switched off. That was a Caviar drive - the only one that went belly up of the loads that I've seen.
I did manage to save the documents that the gentleman had stored on it by moving them until it locked up, then letting it cool befoire continuing.
03-19-2004, 10:50 PM
Virtualbody1234

Are the fans working in the PSU?
03-19-2004, 10:55 PM
abu_has_the_power

Quote:

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@19 March 2004 - 17:50
Are the fans working in the PSU?

both are working fine
03-19-2004, 11:02 PM
Virtualbody1234

Did you try setting things back to stock speeds?
03-19-2004, 11:13 PM
tesco

how many case fans do you have abu? and are those fand that u have in reeasonible places (intake at bottom, out at the top)?

since its getting really hot and freezing when u play games it would make sense that if the heat isnt removed by case fans its going out through the PSU.

edit: oh yeah forgot, check what ur voltages are either in the bios or speedfan if u can get it to open.
03-19-2004, 11:50 PM
abu_has_the_power

i think i got it to work. i had the power input for the 9800 joined to my 2nd hdd. when i play games, it draws power, and i think the 9800 and my hdd were drawing too much power at the same time. now i have the hdd paralleled with my hdd fan and my temp display thing, and i have a direct molex line from the power supply into the 9800 pro. seems to work now in splinter cell. i'll keep u guys posted.
03-20-2004, 03:12 AM
Virtualbody1234

Is that your great 500 watt PSU?
03-20-2004, 03:52 AM
abu_has_the_power

Quote:

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@19 March 2004 - 22:12
Is that your great 500 watt PSU?

lol. yea. hey, $20 bucks for that thing wasn't too bad. it works great now. btw, is 43C normal for ur gpu? i was getting that while playing splinter cell
03-20-2004, 05:02 AM
Virtualbody1234

Quote:

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@19 March 2004 - 21:12
Is that your great 500 watt PSU?

I was being sarcastic when I said that. <_<
03-20-2004, 05:51 AM
abu_has_the_power

Quote:

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+20 March 2004 - 00:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 20 March 2004 - 00:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@19 March 2004 - 21:12
Is that your great 500 watt PSU?

I was being sarcastic when I said that. <_< [/b][/quote]
ok. well, not too bad now.
03-20-2004, 07:28 AM
abu_has_the_power

rite now, just after i played splinter cell, i'm doing:
12v: 12.46
3.3v: 3.22
5v: 4.92v :o :o
Vcc: 5.04v

those are good or bad or ok?
03-20-2004, 04:27 PM
tesco

Quote:

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@20 March 2004 - 02:28
rite now, just after i played splinter cell, i'm doing:
12v: 12.46
3.3v: 3.22
5v: 4.92v  :o  :o
Vcc: 5.04v

those are good or bad or ok?

they're just OK. but that is what to expect from a cheap power supply. expensive ones have bigger capacitors and better cooling so the voltages dont change too much.

here are mine taken from speedfan:

+3.3 = 3.0
+5 = 5.02 (my most acurate one :) )
+12 = 11.96
-12 = -12.1
-5 = -4.96
vcore = 1.75 :o i hate that vcore coltage, its what makes my cpu temp so high :(

edit: why is ur vcore at 5v? is that what intels run at? :blink:
03-20-2004, 08:31 PM
abu_has_the_power

Quote:

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+20 March 2004 - 11:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 20 March 2004 - 11:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@20 March 2004 - 02:28
rite now, just after i played splinter cell, i'm doing:
12v: 12.46
3.3v: 3.22
5v: 4.92v  :o :o
Vcc: 5.04v

those are good or bad or ok?

they're just OK. but that is what to expect from a cheap power supply. expensive ones have bigger capacitors and better cooling so the voltages dont change too much.

here are mine taken from speedfan:

+3.3 = 3.0
+5 = 5.02 (my most acurate one :) )
+12 = 11.96
-12 = -12.1
-5 = -4.96
vcore = 1.75 :o i hate that vcore coltage, its what makes my cpu temp so high :(

edit: why is ur vcore at 5v? is that what intels run at? :blink: [/b][/quote]
no, my vcore is 1.6. i'm not sure what vcc is