Sprocket's New Home

Today I went back to MicroCenter to study the Gigabyte 3D Cooler more closely.
I was hoping to get a better idea of how it is assembled and it's moddability potential.
Decided to pass for the moment...my Zalman is performing quite well and $50 for the GigaByte is a bit steep just to play.

On my way out I cruised thru the "scratch and dent" discount section and there, lying like a pearl among swine, was a ColerMaster Centurion case.
I was immediately intrigued.

I loved the sleek simplicity of the front bezel and the ( apparently) unhindered intake path for the front fan.
No irritating sidepanel window either.

The "flaw" in this (presumably returned) case is a slight mar on the roof about the size of a dime.

Getting it home, I began to study the potential for customizing this little ( and cheap...reduced from $59.95 to $29.95) beauty.

The method of assembly is unique in my experience...one knurled screw removes both sidepanels and the roof. Very handy.
Fit of the panels is excellent.

I also picked up aZalman fan control panel and a CoolerMaster HDD Cooler enclosure because I thought they would look good with the case design. Also, the drive enclosure should help quiet the drive noise ( not too bad to begin with really) and it allows me to mount the drive in the top optical bays.

This go round I'm going to do a bit more planning before I do anything...the idea is to minimize noise while still keeping temps reasonable.
Sprocket's current home was an exercise in high end air cooling...uberfannage and massive airflow...and is extremely successful- my load temps are in the mid-thirties.

That's all well and good, but I think I'd like to try to emphasize quiet over performance this time, just to see how that works out.
Naturally, this doesn't mean that I'm not going to hack around on this case, just that I hope to be more discreet.

Fortunately, having a few cases lying around ( 4 at the moment) means that I can play with the Centurion at my leisure and leave Sprocket intact in the Muffin case till all my mods are done.

Time to start dreaming...I'll post some pics as things develop...

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Originally posted by clocker@15 April 2004 - 20:58
The method of assembly is unique in my experience...one knurled screw removes both sidepanels and the roof. Very handy.

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what does knarled mean?

and can you post a pic so i can see?

that's awesome, hope she feels comfortable in her new home ;)
that's not a bad deal for that case....
lookin forward to seein some pics!
keep us posted B)

http://www.uneedabolt.com/graphics/s3.jpg
Rossco, these are knurled screws...no tools required.

K,
Happy birthday.

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Originally posted by clocker@15 April 2004 - 21:27
http://www.uneedabolt.com/graphics/s3.jpg
Rossco, these are knurled screws...no tools required.

K,
Happy birthday.

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oh theyre like thumb screws.

forgot, happy birthday K&#33;&#33;&#33;i forgot to wish my friend a happy virthday too <_< and i saw him so many times today too :lol:

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Originally posted by clocker@15 April 2004 - 22:27
K,
Happy birthday.

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thanks&#33; :)
when can we expect some pics of this machine? lol

K,

Not sure.
I may just assemble the case as is and see what happens.
Give myself some baseline data to deal with.

I have almost a full notebook that details the results of mods made to my Xaser case and my current case, so I&#39;m trying to devise a strategy based on those.

In the past I&#39;ve been quick to cut holes and mount fans...not so much with this case.
I like that the exterior is almost devoid of holes and would like to keep it that way if at all possible.

My target temps are 35c at idle and 40c under load.
This might be achievable using my Aquarius II H2O set up.

We&#39;ll see.

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Originally posted by clocker@15 April 2004 - 22:05
K,

Not sure.
I may just assemble the case as is and see what happens.
Give myself some baseline data to deal with.

I have almost a full notebook that details the results of mods made to my Xaser case and my current case, so I&#39;m trying to devise a strategy based on those.

In the past I&#39;ve been quick to cut holes and mount fans...not so much with this case.
I like that the exterior is almost devoid of holes and would like to keep it that way if at all possible.

My target temps are 35c at idle and 40c under load.
This might be achievable using my Aquarius II H2O set up.

We&#39;ll see.

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if u do use the water cooling system, try to orgaznise the pipes better to keep the case looking clean, if thats possible...

Oh please, Rossco...my cases are always paragons of organization.

Seriously.

It&#39;s a disease.

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Originally posted by clocker@15 April 2004 - 22:12
Oh please, Rossco...my cases are always paragons of organization.

Seriously.

It&#39;s a disease.

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i know urs are organised, so are mine, i know what its like...

but when i saw ur pics of ur watercooling, the water pipes were pretty messy in there...

and don&#39;t let it leak this time :lol:
I know I know, it&#39;s not a laughing matter...

Rossco, you must be thinking of someone else.

K, I&#39;ll do my best.

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Originally posted by clocker@15 April 2004 - 23:01
Rossco, you must be thinking of someone else.

K, I&#39;ll do my best.

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if using water:

mount the reservoir below the top of the case and add a hole on the top for easy water/anti-algae addage. try another hole on the front of the case (side interferes with removeable panel, and the other side has a mobo on it) below the reservoir, allowing for easy drainage.

also, how bout adding 6 radiators? three on each side lol.

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Originally posted by atiVidia@15 April 2004 - 22:14


also, how bout adding 6 radiators? three on each side lol.

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In series or parallel?

A *BUMP* disguised as a small update.

Last night I moved Sprocket into her new home...well sorta.
As I said, I was interested in gathering some baseline data for this new case, so basically I just threw the parts in willy-nilly.
No attempt was made to be neat.

The wiring for my new Antec PSU is incredibly long and will require some serious management as space is at somewhat of a premium.

The 40mm fan in the CoolDrive 3 HDD enclosure is incredibly irritating ( what did I expect?) and two of the LEDs in the Zalman fan control panel refuse to work.
Oh, the horror&#33;

The review of the Centurion case That I posted was pretty much dead on...the back plate is super cheesy and will take some work to fix.
The slots for the PCI cards are simply stamped out ( and left in place) and are a pain to remove without twisting/bending the thin rail left inbetween. Once removed, it&#39;s up to you to find filler strips. No biggie, thought I, I have a boxfull.
HA&#33;
They don&#39;t fit/work with the odd retention setup in this case.
Other than that, installation went well.
After a night of Folding my temps seem to be about 8-9 degC higher than in the Muffin case.
My highest diode temp ( reported by MBM5) was 44...currently ( in the cool of the morning) at 42c.
My socket temp runs about 3 degrees cooler...not bad, considering that this case doesn&#39;t have the socket/mobo fan mod yet ( if ever...).

All in all, an interesting result.
The temps are actually already within my desired target range despite the lack of case fans ( did I forget to mention? No case fans installed at all...only airflow provided by the HSF and the two fans in the Antec PSU) and HSF running at very slow speed.

So...where to go from here?
I&#39;m not sure.

Oh, BTW...yesterday, while visiting my local PC shop, I got a copy of the MS SP2 Beta.
They had just returned from a Microsoft seminar and this is the real MS approved version of the Service Pack that will be released soon.
Unwilling to use one of their customer&#39;s PCs as a guinea pig, they asked me to try it out.
How could I refuse...they have been very good to me.

Essentially, SP2 seems to be a complete rollup of all the MS Critical Updates to date with a few extra features.
It adds two icons to your Control Center...."Windows Firewall" and "Security Center".
The Firewall icon does nothing..."Due to an unidentified problem, Windows cannot display firewall settings...."
The Security Center has a window displaying options for the firewall settings ( hmmm...seems a bit redundant, eh?) along with an option to enable "Windows Update" and also a "detect anri-virus software" section.
Oddly, Windows does not detect Grisoft AVG as being present on my machine.

Essentially, the Security Control seems to be an easy was for nOObs to get to options that are already available in a standard Windows install.
Just for grins I disabled ZoneAlarm Pro and ran my PC through the ShieldsUp&#33; port test.
Pretty much the same reults...totally stealthed with the exception of the infamous port 113, which was "closed" ( supposedly ZA will "learn" to adaptively stealth this port, but so far mine has not...).
I&#39;m not familiar with the features of the Windows firewall, so for the time being I&#39;ll probably continue to use ZoneAlarm.
On Monday I&#39;m going to take my machine down to the shop and let them scan it and see what (if any) hidden settings are enabled by SP2, but so far everything seems to work just fine.
If I have time before then ( doubtful, considering the amount of work necessary to clean up Sprocket&#39;s interior) I will do a fresh install of Windows and install SP2 instead of SP1 and see what happens.

More to follow as time permits...

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Originally posted by clocker@17 April 2004 - 10:07
A *BUMP* disguised as a small update.

Last night I moved Sprocket into her new home...well sorta.
As I said, I was interested in gathering some baseline data for this new case, so basically I just threw the parts in willy-nilly.
No attempt was made to be neat.

The wiring for my new Antec PSU is incredibly long and will require some serious management as space is at somewhat of a premium.

The 40mm fan in the CoolDrive 3 HDD enclosure is incredibly irritating ( what did I expect?) and two of the LEDs in the Zalman fan control panel refuse to work.
Oh, the horror&#33;

The review of the Centurion case That I posted was pretty much dead on...the back plate is super cheesy and will take some work to fix.
The slots for the PCI cards are simply stamped out ( and left in place) and are a pain to remove without twisting/bending the thin rail left inbetween. Once removed, it&#39;s up to you to find filler strips. No biggie, thought I, I have a boxfull.
HA&#33;
They don&#39;t fit/work with the odd retention setup in this case.
Other than that, installation went well.
After a night of Folding my temps seem to be about 8-9 degC higher than in the Muffin case.
My highest diode temp ( reported by MBM5) was 44...currently ( in the cool of the morning) at 42c.
My socket temp runs about 3 degrees cooler...not bad, considering that this case doesn&#39;t have the socket/mobo fan mod yet ( if ever...).

All in all, an interesting result.
The temps are actually already within my desired target range despite the lack of case fans ( did I forget to mention? No case fans installed at all...only airflow provided by the HSF and the two fans in the Antec PSU) and HSF running at very slow speed.

So...where to go from here?
I&#39;m not sure.

Oh, BTW...yesterday, while visiting my local PC shop, I got a copy of the MS SP2 Beta.
They had just returned from a Microsoft seminar and this is the real MS approved version of the Service Pack that will be released soon.
Unwilling to use one of their customer&#39;s PCs as a guinea pig, they asked me to try it out.
How could I refuse...they have been very good to me.

Essentially, SP2 seems to be a complete rollup of all the MS Critical Updates to date with a few extra features.
It adds two icons to your Control Center...."Windows Firewall" and "Security Center".
The Firewall icon does nothing..."Due to an unidentified problem, Windows cannot display firewall settings...."
The Security Center has a window displaying options for the firewall settings ( hmmm...seems a bit redundant, eh?) along with an option to enable "Windows Update" and also a "detect anri-virus software" section.
Oddly, Windows does not detect Grisoft AVG as being present on my machine.

Essentially, the Security Control seems to be an easy was for nOObs to get to options that are already available in a standard Windows install.
Just for grins I disabled ZoneAlarm Pro and ran my PC through the ShieldsUp&#33; port test.
Pretty much the same reults...totally stealthed with the exception of the infamous port 113, which was "closed" ( supposedly ZA will "learn" to adaptively stealth this port, but so far mine has not...).
I&#39;m not familiar with the features of the Windows firewall, so for the time being I&#39;ll probably continue to use ZoneAlarm.
On Monday I&#39;m going to take my machine down to the shop and let them scan it and see what (if any) hidden settings are enabled by SP2, but so far everything seems to work just fine.
If I have time before then ( doubtful, considering the amount of work necessary to clean up Sprocket&#39;s interior) I will do a fresh install of Windows and install SP2 instead of SP1 and see what happens.

More to follow as time permits...

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SP2 has been available from microsoft to all betaplace.com members for quiet a while. i used it for a few months but recently got bored of all the errors with certain combinations of programs being opened, so i went back to service pack 1 for now. btw, what version is yours? that last one i used was RC1...

those temps are not bad at all considering you have no fans lol
I thought you were gonna use your aquarius II though?

Rossco,
BelArc Advisor shows my installation as being SP2 KB811113...whatever that means.

K,
Did you have a good birthday?

Today I&#39;m going to perform some serious wire/cable management and also strip down the case to remove the restrictive stamped fan grills...I was too lazy to dig out my nibblers last night.
Then I&#39;ll install the watercooling.
I got a new Zalman waterblock to try ( I decided on this one mainly because it comes with the necessary fittings for tubing from 1/4" , which works with the Aquarius pump and radiator, up to 1/2" (I think), necessary for serious water rigs...).
As you know, arranging the wiring can be very time-consuming, so I don&#39;t know how far I&#39;ll get today, but when Sprocket is cleaned up enough not to be embarrassing I&#39;ll take some pics.

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Originally posted by clocker@17 April 2004 - 10:51
Rossco,
BelArc Advisor shows my installation as being SP2&nbsp; KB811113...whatever that means.

K,
Did you have a good birthday?

Today I&#39;m going to perform some serious wire/cable management and also strip down the case to remove the restrictive stamped fan grills...I was too lazy to dig out my nibblers last night.
Then I&#39;ll install the watercooling.
I got a new Zalman waterblock to try ( I decided on this one mainly because it comes with the necessary fittings for tubing from 1/4" , which works with the Aquarius pump and radiator, up to 1/2" (I think), necessary for serious water rigs...).
As you know, arranging the wiring can be very time-consuming, so I don&#39;t know how far I&#39;ll get today, but when Sprocket is cleaned up enough not to be embarrassing I&#39;ll take some pics.

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clocker, right click my computer and click properties, then at the top what does it say for your version of windows?

edit: what i mean is the build number...

It say....

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Version 2002

Service Pack 2, v 2096


Now, what does that tell you?

BTW, Sprocket is now running watercooled.
So far, temps are under 40....

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Originally posted by clocker@17 April 2004 - 21:44
It say....

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Version 2002

Service Pack 2, v 2096


Now, what does that tell you?

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lol, i just wanted to know what version you have :( ok now i know though, its the RC1 version, thats teh last one i used. firewall worked fine for me ;) have you found anything else that doesnt work yet?

oh, if u click start>turn off computer, does the screen around the standby, restart, turn off go completely black or just grey? mine went all the way blakc and coudlnt figure out why.

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BTW, Sprocket is now running watercooled.
So far, temps are under 40....

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sweet, got any pics yet? :P

[quote]Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@17 April 2004 - 20:47

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Originally Posted by clocker,17 April 2004 - 21:44

It say....

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Version 2002




oh, if u click start>turn off computer, does the screen around the standby, restart, turn off go completely black or just grey? mine went all the way blakc and coudlnt figure out why.

blah,blah,blah

sweet, got any pics yet? :P

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I don&#39;t shutdown that way...I made shortcuts (" shutdown -s -t 0" and " shutdown -r -t o" )to boot and turn off....no start button bushwa for me, nosirree.

No pics yet...just an initial test right now.
I have to reopen her tonight any way, neither my On LED nor my HDD activity LED are working and I want to disable one of the two fans on the radiator to see what happens...

[quote]Originally posted by clocker@17 April 2004 - 21:59

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Originally Posted by ROSSCO_2004,17 April 2004 - 20:47

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Originally Posted by clocker,17 April 2004 - 21:44

It say....

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Version 2002




oh, if u click start>turn off computer, does the screen around the standby, restart, turn off go completely black or just grey? mine went all the way blakc and coudlnt figure out why.

blah,blah,blah

sweet, got any pics yet? :P

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I don&#39;t shutdown that way...I made shortcuts (" shutdown -s -t 0" and " shutdown -r -t o" )to boot and turn off....no start button bushwa for me, nosirree.

No pics yet...just an initial test right now.
I have to reopen her tonight any way, neither my On LED nor my HDD activity LED are working and I want to disable one of the two fans on the radiator to see what happens...

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alright thats kool i can wait...for the leds, try flipping around the connection for it, sometimes they get hooked up backwards and dont work...ii live with mine backwards for like 5 months, i thought that my mobo was just wierd and that the hdd one didnt work, and the power one turned on when the comp was off :huh: but then i switched them around and it worked lol.

Ok...
The "power on" LED is working and the "push" fan on the radiator is gone.
This should be interesting.

I tried to get tricky with my HDD activity light.
The front of my new HDD enclosure has two LEDs and I tried to use them as the activity light, but obviously they don&#39;t run on the teensy current supplied by the activity header on the mobo.
C&#39;est la vie...
Fix that in the morning.

Now if I could just make the waterpump silent...hmmm....

Well boys and girls, Sprocket was feeling a trifle randy this evening so I stripped her down and shot some revealing photos.

Computer porn.
Given that she is less than 72 hrs. old ( in this incarnation at least), we are all risking serious jail time...

http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/...wsprocket1.jpg
So here is the main view.
This case is considerably smaller than her previous bodies, so Sprocket is getting a little big for her britches. It was quite a project cramming all the components into her new home, especially given my ( self-imposed) restriction against cutting any new holes in the exterior of the case.
The watercooling required the most improvisation.
Moving the HDD into the 5 1/4" drive bay and not having a floppy drive meant that I could remove the 3 1/2" bay box which opened up the needed room in the front case bottom area. I cut out the stamped fan grill and mounted the intake fan/radiator assy. on the front wall. Then I ran a duct from the back of the radiator to the back casewall where the exhaust air is helped out of the case with another fan. These are the only two case fans.
Quite a change from Muffin.
This duct obviously makes it impossible to insert any PCI cards (not a problem ATM), but I have an alternate oulet location in mind should the need ( or the desire to cut holes, lol) arise.
The water pump/reservoir is mounted right behind the radiator on rubber mounting feet.
The main waterlines and all the visible wiring is sheathed with black mesh sheathing. This job was made easier after I discovered that Radio Shack sells a Molex pin remover ( cat.# 274-223..price was &#036;6.95) which worked very well. I recommend it.
Although this Centurion case has no windows I was still trying to keep things looking spiffy.
Just for my satisfaction, I guess.
Life would certainly be easier if IDE cables came in shorter lengths.My double connector (optical drive) cable could be 6" long, but the shortest available seems to be 12", which leaves a big loop to deal with. Maybe custom cables are in order...

Here is the infamous rear panel...
http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/...wsprocket3.jpg
Visisble are the rear exhaust fan for the duct and the "chimney" for the PSU exhaust fan that came with the duct kit. Not sure if this piece helps or hinders things yet, but I paid for it so I decided to mount it and see.

And here is the front...
http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/...wsprocket2.jpg
I have some ideas for the opening for the floppy drives, but right now that space is simply filled with a piece of foam.
The only mods to the front so far are the addition of the two lights in the upper bay cover which are connected to the temperature varied power outlets on the Antec PSU. The idea is that the lights will bighten/dim in relation to case temp. Unfortunately I have no bulbs for these sockets, so this remains theory only.
Also, the front of the CoolerMaster HDD encloser ( second bay) has two LEDs which are decorative only.
I converted these to be my power on and HDD activity lights.

On the roof I added two handles, very handy for lifting the case and removing the roof panel ( which is held on with one screw and must be removed to free the sidepanels...pretty cool method, really).

With a fresh application of AS5 on the Zalman waterblock, Sprocket is idling at 30 degC.

As usual, I expect that I&#39;ll begin making detail changes almost immediately, but I think I have a fairly decent starting point for this latest incarnation of my baby.

wow....
very clean&#33;
so how does that aquarius II system work?? does it give relativly good temps, and i assume it is quieter then the old sprockets home correct?

Ah, the AquariusII...

This version is working fine, an improvement I attribute to the Zalman waterblock.
Looking at my notes, I see that the stock waterblock was decidedly inferior to a mid-level air solution, while my current temps are equal to Sprocket&#39;s uberMuffin case.
This is with a fresh application of AS5, so perhaps temps will improve slightly as the TIM normalizes.
I am still of two minds about this kit.
The radiator is cute as button and with the exception of the 1/4" fittings, there isn&#39;t anything I would change.
The stock waterblock, pump and (especially) the reservoir are pretty cheesy, but servicable and undeniably easy to install.
Plus, it was free ( to me at least) so I have no monetary complaints.

Yes, it is very quiet, with the exception of a small, but irritating buzzing noise from the pump.
The old case was not what I would consider obnoxious, but did suffer from a hum from the fans- a byproduct of my fan control switch, I&#39;m sure.

Current idle temp is 30c.
So far, so good.

I was expecting it to even be a little lower then 30 idle, would it make a difference using a different liquid?
do you think it would be a worthy investment of about &#036;155 CAD? plus another 50 for the zalman block? probably not actually...
and there is probably a way to deafen the buzz a bit, encasing the pump in something? i dunno, I&#39;m sure there&#39;s a way

Pros

All in one kit.

Powers off mobo and PSU

Quiet

Adaptable to either Intel P4/P3 or AMD Athlon XP/TBird/Duron

Ease of installation and removal.

Quiet

Excellent cooling when compared to standard air coolers.

Quiet


Cons

Pump moves only 1/6 the flow of other water-cooler pumps.

Cooling rates as poor when compared to other water-coolers.

Some cases may have to be modded in order to install the unit.

Price could be a bit lower.


I was thinking of getting one of these kits but I didn&#39;t like this to much...

SOURCE

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Originally posted by kaiweiler@19 April 2004 - 10:26
I was expecting it to even be a little lower then 30 idle, would it make a difference using a different liquid?
do you think it would be a worthy investment of about &#036;155 CAD? plus another 50 for the zalman block? probably not actually...
and there is probably a way to deafen the buzz a bit, encasing the pump in something? i dunno, I&#39;m sure there&#39;s a way

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30c at idle seems pretty respectable to moi, especially given the rather pathetic specs of the pump/radiator.

I don&#39;t think any additives would make much of a difference.

No, it&#39;s not worth that much money...even if we are talking Canadian bucks.

I&#39;m looking for a way to silence the pump...I&#39;ll figure it out eventually.

not worth it?
I could get the whole kit for 149.99 but that&#39;s not worth it?
alright thanks then, glad I didn&#39;t get it last week when I was thinking about it
and 30C is a decent temp, but I just dont wanna spend about 200 bucks total on something I can achieve with air cooling...

That was my thinking too, K.
A well implemented air solution can easily duplicate my results, but the complexity ( and expense) is hardly trivial.

I am fortunate that I was given the AquariusII as a gift, so the cost of the system doesn&#39;t really have to factor into my assessment.
Being objective however, where the initial expense is an issue, I must conclude that the usable parts of the kit ( the radiator and the pump...noisy as it is) are not worth the price.

Ah, the buzzing pump syndrome.

How annoying that must be.

Just to let you know, the Hydor pumps are almost totally silent.
I have to strain to make sure it is actually working, if it was inside the case I&#39;d have no chance. :lol:

How is your setup working for you Lynx?

It looked very cool ( in both senses of the word...).

I&#39;m currently running with temps of 34/26 full [email protected] (approx equal to XP3400).

I&#39;ve been playing with the thermostat settings, with some unexpected results.

There are three thermostats, 1 for each of the beer lines (which I&#39;m running in series) and one for the refrigeration circuit. I tried setting the refrigeration circuit to a lower temp, but all this seemed to result in was an increase in room temp&#33; I assume that I wasn&#39;t providing enough heat from the cpu, so the room was heating the water bath. This made the refrigeration circuit kick in, cooling the water back down but heating the room even more, which warmed the water in the water bath.... Resulting computer temps were 35/31&#33;&#33;&#33;

So I&#39;ve reversed that move, and even gone a little bit the other way. I suppose that ideally the water bath temp needs to be only slightly lower than the cooling circuit so that I&#39;m not effectively just heating the room. The only problem is that I have to partially dismantle the chiller in order to adjust that temp.

General cooling of the water bath is fairly quiet (about as noisy as a pc on full cooling) but only takes place for a total of about 10 minutes per hour. The stirrers which keep the temps of the beer lines constant are a little noisier, although they only run for about three seconds every couple of minutes. I may try to investigate slower but quieter motors for the stirrers, but first I&#39;ll investigate what it is like using only one of the beer lines.

Generally, I&#39;m very happy with the results, and I&#39;m confident that the temps during summer will not be a major problem.

Yes, but does your PC smell like hops now? :P

Ok...small update.
I tried encasing my pump in foam, as I described earlier, but the results were disappointing.
It did help some, but the noise ( or more precisely, the quality of the noise) was still not acceptable.
Watercooling is now on the back burner again.

So, what to do, what to do?
Well, I decided to go ahead and semi-upgrade the aircooling in the case by swapping out the front 80mm intake fan for a 120mm Sunon that I had laying around and doing the mobo wall fan also.

While I was at it I also relocated my HDD onto the case floor ( the same setup that I&#39;ve used in previous cases) and also lined almost the entire interior with 1/4" foam as a noise dampener.

I also mounted a fan in the stock exhaust location on the rear casewall, but as yet it is not hooked up.

So far, so good.

Case temp is 25c.
HDD and socket are both at 22c ( remember, they both have dedicated fans blowing over them now).
CPU diode is 40c ( Folding).

The case is almost dead silent...if I really try I can hear the whisper of air, but that&#39;s about it.

She&#39;s only been running now for just over an hour, so temps could easily change some, but I&#39;m encouraged at this point...

that&#39;s quite impressive
are you going to be adding more and more fans, like the old sprocket? or keep it as it is? (I know that&#39;s impossible for you :lol: )

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Originally posted by clocker@21 April 2004 - 18:17
Yes, but does your PC smell like hops now? :P

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I&#39;ve turned off the thermostat on one cold bank, and set the other at minimum.

There&#39;s no smell of hops, but the temps have jumped (37/26). :lol:

THis probably means I can reduce the cooling circuit to a single bank, leaving the other free for better purposes. :beerchug:

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Originally posted by lynx@21 April 2004 - 15:01


THis probably means I can reduce the cooling circuit to a single bank, leaving the other free for better purposes. :beerchug:

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Would that make your comp a "server"?

K,

No, no more fans.
For now.
I was just at MicroCenter and they were unpacking a shipment of Zalman Reserators.
They didn&#39;t have one open yet, but the box is HUGE.
Prolly 3&#39; long of so.
Hopefully they&#39;ll have one set up soon...