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Is it true that one of the best means to secure your computer is to stop or rather make it more difficult for users especially hackers to find out your IP address. Is this true or not, and if it is where would I find the software to to do this? I am pretty new to computers and wondered if someone could explain how they hack you and get your address?
well kinda but not really.
just install yourself a decent firewall, anti virus, dont open email attachments and keep windows up to date then your pretty secure.
if you wanna hack into a pc an ip adress is a good start but it is not always needed.
If hackers dont need your IP address how do they do it? And I thought they got your address of visiting sites and P2P. I've downloaded a free firewall and it shows or seems to show lots off people trying to get into my system?
hackers are everywhere and nowhere...
we are among u..... :rolleyes:
I gathered that where can i find out more?
hackers(skript kiddies) can find stupid people who dont worry about clicking that email attachment called server.exe that just infected their machine with sub7.
a home pc is normally hard to break into because of a lack of services running. its more common that you will get worms or viruses.
wrong again, normal users have no idea what services they are running unknowingly :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by 4play@22 April 2004 - 15:13
hackers(skript kiddies) can find stupid people who dont worry about clicking that email attachment called server.exe that just infected their machine with sub7.
a home pc is normally hard to break into because of a lack of services running. its more common that you will get worms or viruses.
It will be awhile before the FULL SCALE ATTACK is ready.
We're just experimenting with the fact that we can do it selectively.........client by client.
probably why it is ok for some. ;) :)
Someone broke into my Norton firewall and kept turning my computer off and also did something to stop me downloading a film. I can no longer carry on downloading. I just wondered if I could find out more to protect my computer. I presume they got my addreess or whatever from Kazaa where I was downloading?
Have you tried scanning your PC with an Anti-Virus software, such as Norton or NOD32?Quote:
Originally posted by Liam100@22 April 2004 - 19:17
Someone broke into my Norton firewall and kept turning my computer off and also did something to stop me downloading a film. I can no longer carry on downloading. I just wondered if I could find out more to protect my computer. I presume they got my addreess or whatever from Kazaa where I was downloading?
Sounds like a trojan or somthing of the sort.
Yer tried cthat no trojan or virus/worm. I downloaded a free firewall and it stopped the hackers. I heard that some of these downloads from Kazaa etc are set so they let hackers in, is this true?
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first off i would go to <a href='http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp]windows update and get all the latest patches.
then update norton antivirus and scan your pc.
i aint feeling too friendly towards u hackers right now. I just had to re install windows after a format, lost all my work, over 10gb of stuff and more, all cos some jerk (and hes a member on this board) infected my computer with a virus which basically trashed it.
I know exactly what happened and how and I am going to get my revenge...
ps. 5 hours of watching fucking windows update everything from the last 2 years is no joke!
Half of the FastTrack network has malicious files in place.Quote:
Originally posted by Liam100@22 April 2004 - 19:24
Yer tried cthat no trojan or virus/worm. I downloaded a free firewall and it stopped the hackers. I heard that some of these downloads from Kazaa etc are set so they let hackers in, is this true?
These files range from spamming your contacts with viruses/worms or turning your PC into a virtual "zombie".
I would suggest you download Sygate Personal Firewall, disallow unknown programs that try to access the internet.
Hopefully it taught you a lesson.Quote:
Originally posted by hungrylilboy@22 April 2004 - 19:28
i aint feeling too friendly towards u hackers right now. I just had to re install windows after a format, lost all my work, over 10gb of stuff and more, all cos some jerk (and hes a member on this board) infected my computer with a virus which basically trashed it.
I know exactly what happened and how and I am going to get my revenge...
ps. 5 hours of watching fucking windows update everything from the last 2 years is no joke!
Protect your computer.
Yer 4play did update my patches and everything i thought was secure but i was so wrong, watching the attacks on the free firewall was like a war was taking place or rather a massacre. The only place I've been is on Kazaa, and I aint had the comp that long so I just thought that by stopping people see my address they couldn't attack me. How do they do it without an address?
Half of the FastTrack network has malicious files in place.Quote:
Originally posted by NightStalker+23 April 2004 - 00:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NightStalker @ 23 April 2004 - 00:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Liam100@22 April 2004 - 19:24
Yer tried cthat no trojan or virus/worm. I downloaded a free firewall and it stopped the hackers. I heard that some of these downloads from Kazaa etc are set so they let hackers in, is this true?
These files range from spamming your contacts with viruses/worms or turning your PC into a virtual "zombie".
I would suggest you download Sygate Personal Firewall, disallow unknown programs that try to access the internet. [/b][/quote]
Is that freeware ie sygate?
i was reading somewhere your average un-firewalled new install of windows xp will get infected with a worm before you have a chance to update it. :lol:
me loves linux B)
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Originally posted by Liam100@23 April 2004 - 00:32
How do they do it without an address?
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Hacking discussions are strictly prohibited within the forum.
try to just keep to the 'security' side of things please folks
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How do they do it without an address?
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Hacking discussions are strictly prohibited within the forum.
try to just keep to the 'security' side of things please folks [/b][/quote]
I honestly didn't realise that that could be construed as hacking, I only want to stop them hacking me.
But thanks anyway I didn't know hacking talk was barred so I wont ask anyone how to do it.
Hopefully it taught you a lesson.Quote:
Originally posted by NightStalker+23 April 2004 - 00:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NightStalker @ 23 April 2004 - 00:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hungrylilboy@22 April 2004 - 19:28
i aint feeling too friendly towards u hackers right now. I just had to re install windows after a format, lost all my work, over 10gb of stuff and more, all cos some jerk (and hes a member on this board) infected my computer with a virus which basically trashed it.
I know exactly what happened and how and I am going to get my revenge...
ps. 5 hours of watching fucking windows update everything from the last 2 years is no joke!
Protect your computer. [/b][/quote]
cheeky shite. i aint no noob. I got or rather had more firewall, anti virus than u could throw a stick at, not to mention a router!
cheeky shite. i aint no noob. I got or rather had more firewall, anti virus than u could throw a stick at, not to mention a router! [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by hungrylilboy+22 April 2004 - 19:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hungrylilboy @ 22 April 2004 - 19:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by NightStalker@23 April 2004 - 00:31
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@22 April 2004 - 19:28
i aint feeling too friendly towards u hackers right now. I just had to re install windows after a format, lost all my work, over 10gb of stuff and more, all cos some jerk (and hes a member on this board) infected my computer with a virus which basically trashed it.
I know exactly what happened and how and I am going to get my revenge...
ps. 5 hours of watching fucking windows update everything from the last 2 years is no joke!
Hopefully it taught you a lesson.
Protect your computer.
Apparently you were still vulnerable. :rolleyes:
Apparently you were still vulnerable. :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by NightStalker+23 April 2004 - 01:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NightStalker @ 23 April 2004 - 01:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by hungrylilboy@22 April 2004 - 19:50
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Originally posted by NightStalker@23 April 2004 - 00:31
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@22 April 2004 - 19:28
i aint feeling too friendly towards u hackers right now. I just had to re install windows after a format, lost all my work, over 10gb of stuff and more, all cos some jerk (and hes a member on this board) infected my computer with a virus which basically trashed it.
I know exactly what happened and how and I am going to get my revenge...
ps. 5 hours of watching fucking windows update everything from the last 2 years is no joke!
Hopefully it taught you a lesson.
Protect your computer.
cheeky shite. i aint no noob. I got or rather had more firewall, anti virus than u could throw a stick at, not to mention a router!
yes. am too trusting. never again
Linux is just as worse.Quote:
Originally posted by 4play@22 April 2004 - 19:35
i was reading somewhere your average un-firewalled new install of windows xp will get infected with a worm before you have a chance to update it. :lol:
me loves linux B)
Tons of services are enabled by default. Sendmail, rpc, X11, etc.
jesus i cant remember the last time i had sendmail turned on by default.
and of course keeping up to date will stop your getting owned by some leet haxor.
Sendmail is always installed and started by default. Sure, maybe there are a few exceptions, but look at ssh. It's always installed and started by default as well.Quote:
Originally posted by 4play@22 April 2004 - 20:35
jesus i cant remember the last time i had sendmail turned on by default.
and of course keeping up to date will stop your getting owned by some leet haxor.
As for the updates. Vulnerablities are only found when they are "publicly" put in the wild. Some people that find flaws in an application may decide to keep that to themselves and exploit it quitely rather then send it to the application vendor just so they can get leet points on the net.
You are never secure no matter how often you update. With some effort every box can be compromised no matter what.
I just went through the re-format/re-install process myself. <_<Quote:
Originally posted by 4play@22 April 2004 - 19:35
i was reading somewhere your average un-firewalled new install of windows xp will get infected with a worm before you have a chance to update it. :lol:
me loves linux B)
I was hit at least four times by hacker/malicsious entries posing as messages from what they claim to be Windows Messenger as I went through the windows update routine. I ended-up having to go through the entire ordeal three times before obtaining a clean and updated WinXP Pro system. :frusty:
...thank God for DSL. ;)
Security?
First.... Tweak your system. X-Setup is a blindingly easy way to help protect your comp.
Second.... Turn off the services you don't need. Black Viper can help you there.
Third.... Get a router. You can turn any piece of junk computer into a hardware firewall with a linux or unix live disk or you can install linux if you cannot afford a router (which are cheap).
Fourth.... Anti-virus. NOD32 and AVG are the only good ones I've used.
Fifth... Patch Windows. Just use Windows Update.
Sixth... If you have Windows XP turn on the built-in firewall even if you have a software router and a hardware router. It blocks against RPC attacks which are a bit popular these days.
Seventh... Steve Gibson has made some interesting tools to turn off some of the most vulnerable services in Windows. He even set up a firewall tester and a method to change the way certain versions of Windows conects to the internet to close off big vulnerabilities.
Eighth... XP-Antispy... it speaks for itself.
Ninth... Protowall and Blocklist Manager come in handy with P2P.
Tenth... Make sure you system is clean of spyware. I like SpySweeper, but there are great free tools that do the same. BTW, this company also makes Window Washer which helps a lot in security.
Eleventh... security was one of the big reasons I made Supertrick XG
This is a start. You can do all of this for free. And there should be no need for explainations.
-- Xero Grid --
But I thought it was a 12 step program. :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by Xero Grid@23 April 2004 - 22:51
Eleventh... security was one of the big reasons I made Supertrick XG
This is a start. You can do all of this for free. And there should be no need for explainations.
-- Xero Grid --
I was never great at beating habits. So naturally I tripped on that step. :rolleyes: :lol:
-- Xero Grid --
I very much appreciate the time, effort and thought by writing or rather typing this, thankyou!Quote:
Originally posted by Xero Grid@24 April 2004 - 04:51
Security?
First.... Tweak your system. X-Setup is a blindingly easy way to help protect your comp.
Second.... Turn off the services you don't need. Black Viper can help you there.
Third.... Get a router. You can turn any piece of junk computer into a hardware firewall with a linux or unix live disk or you can install linux if you cannot afford a router (which are cheap).
Fourth.... Anti-virus. NOD32 and AVG are the only good ones I've used.
Fifth... Patch Windows. Just use Windows Update.
Sixth... If you have Windows XP turn on the built-in firewall even if you have a software router and a hardware router. It blocks against RPC attacks which are a bit popular these days.
Seventh... Steve Gibson has made some interesting tools to turn off some of the most vulnerable services in Windows. He even set up a firewall tester and a method to change the way certain versions of Windows conects to the internet to close off big vulnerabilities.
Eighth... XP-Antispy... it speaks for itself.
Ninth... Protowall and Blocklist Manager come in handy with P2P.
Tenth... Make sure you system is clean of spyware. I like SpySweeper, but there are great free tools that do the same. BTW, this company also makes Window Washer which helps a lot in security.
Eleventh... security was one of the big reasons I made Supertrick XG
This is a start. You can do all of this for free. And there should be no need for explainations.
-- Xero Grid --
No problem. Spread the knowledge. A lot of people don't know that there is always a cheap solution. And for the software that I mentioned that is shareware, there is a free alternative.
-- Xero Grid --
Anyone else getting a 403 Forbidden when accessing the blackviper website?
His site is still working for me.
But, he's always tweaking it, so maybe you caught it at a bad time.
-- Xero Grid --