Northbridge Overheating

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05-11-2004, 11:42 PM
Spicker

k as the topic says...my Northbridge is overheating its at 49 C at full load
pic..
http://a.domaindlx.com/jaigandhi5/ov...ingtoomuch.JPG

ever sinse i got this motherboard my temps for the NB hav been high like in the 30s and stuff...now its almost summer and its getting warm outside and the temp is jumping!

specs..
ASUS P4P8X (865p NB chipset) http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/...e/overview.htm#
P4 1.9Ghz @ 2.1Ghz
512 Dual Channel DDR @ 266mhz
Nvidia Fx5600
80gig hdd
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/sock...p4p8x-se_l.jpg

motherboard looks exactly like tht..

also im really low on budget :(
05-11-2004, 11:55 PM
Virtualbody1234

Does your northbridge have a cooling fan or just a heatsink?

Maybe the heat isn't being transfered properly. Is the heatsink hot to the touch?
05-12-2004, 12:01 AM
atiVidia

thats not the northbridge.

in fact, i dont believe the northbridge ever has a temp sensor on it (correct me if im wrong.)

are you positive that this is the northbridge? does it say that in ur mobo manual? otherwise its just the ambient case temp. (thats what mine is, and all the other mobos i dealt with are...)

however, 49° is not a bad thing; unless that temp came during idle operation... just find a more efficient wat to move air around your case...

turns out that you can probably use a bulky AGP card and not have any problem from what i see... :-)

paging clocker to the service desk... :)
05-12-2004, 12:05 AM
Spicker

yes it is the northbrige cuz it is hot to the touch.... <_<
and yes it is a BIG heat sink

lol 49C ambient case? whoa B)

and one more thing the case is open...
05-12-2004, 12:09 AM
atiVidia

Quote:

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@11 May 2004 - 19:13
yes it is the northbrige cuz it is hot to the touch.... <_<
and yes it is a BIG heat sink

lol 49C ambient case? whoa B)

thats what mine always is... :unsure: rofl

ok well if its hot then lets deal with it! :P

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05-12-2004, 12:16 AM
Spicker

umm one more thing..lol i cant buy from newegg...

i am CANADIAN

http://canadacomputers.com/cooling.html#cas

find a cheap one there...

but..isnt there any other way i too lazy to pay money :ph34r:

btw u wudnt belive wt happen today...

i cleaned my cpu heat sink (took it out) and then i was dun and put it back but...i forgot to plug the cpu fan power cable.... :o lol

i booted in to the windows loading thing and then im like its...too quiet and boom it hit tht i fogot to plug the wire in!! then i turned the main switch off the psu plugged it in...

and luckily no harm done :rolleyes: (got really lucky today)
05-12-2004, 12:21 AM
tesco

did u put on some new thermal paste after taking off the heatsync? usually temps go a lot higher cause there won't be good contact.

anyway, ur not overclocking are you? if so, unOC it.

if that isnt it, then I think you should get some arctic silver 5, if u dont already have, and remove your northbridge cooler, then clean off the old thermal paste\pad and apply a little bit of arctic silver.
05-12-2004, 12:22 AM
atiVidia

Quote:

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+11 May 2004 - 19:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 11 May 2004 - 19:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>did u put on some new thermal paste after taking off the heatsync? usually temps go a lot higher cause there won't be good contact.

anyway, ur not overclocking are you? if so, unOC it.

if that isnt it, then I think you should get some arctic silver 5, if u dont already have, and remove your northbridge cooler, then clean off the old thermal paste\pad and apply a little bit of arctic silver.[/b]

he is OCing :)

<!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5@11 May 2004 - 18:50
P4 1.9Ghz @ 2.1Ghz[/quote]
05-12-2004, 12:25 AM
Spicker

Quote:

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@12 May 2004 - 01:29
did u put on some new thermal paste after taking off the heatsync? usually temps go a lot higher cause there won't be good contact.

anyway, ur not overclocking are you? if so, unOC it.

if that isnt it, then I think you should get some arctic silver 5, if u dont already have, and remove your northbridge cooler, then clean off the old thermal paste\pad and apply a little bit of arctic silver.

yea i was thinkin about the same thing ;)
05-12-2004, 04:06 AM
SciManAl

clear
05-12-2004, 08:34 AM
ck-uk

if your hav'nt oc imo your gettin carried away m8 a heatsink should be sufficient ..the only solution with out payin is relax the memory....
05-12-2004, 11:41 AM
Spicker

Quote:

Originally posted by ck-uk@12 May 2004 - 09:42
if your hav'nt oc imo your gettin carried away m8 a heatsink should be sufficient ..the only solution with out payin is relax the memory....

how could i relax the memory? :unsure:
05-12-2004, 01:03 PM
tesco

Quote:

Originally posted by jaigandhi5+12 May 2004 - 06:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jaigandhi5 @ 12 May 2004 - 06:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ck-uk@12 May 2004 - 09:42
if your hav'nt oc imo your gettin carried away m8 a heatsink should be sufficient ..the only solution with out payin is relax the memory....

how could i relax the memory? :unsure: [/b][/quote]
take off your oc. put back to stock, just to see if the temp goes down, if not then that isnt yourproblem, but if it is then we know that its because your ocing, and then you can buy a new heatsync or something.
05-12-2004, 08:00 PM
FlyingDutchman

Jaigandhi,

AtiVidia is right.
That case-temp sensor is probably located in the "Winbond" chip.
Try to feel the heat on that large chip next to the 20 pin connector (lower right corner in the pic). The chip without a heatsink.
And check if is a winbond chip.
In MBM you can probably check the winbond chip too.
05-12-2004, 08:26 PM
Spicker

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman@12 May 2004 - 21:08
Jaigandhi,

AtiVidia is right.
That case-temp sensor is probably located in the "Winbond" chip.
Try to feel the heat on that large chip next to the 20 pin connector (lower right corner in the pic). The chip without a heatsink.
And check if is a winbond chip.
In MBM you can probably check the winbond chip too.

i jus turned on the computer so...the temps arent tht high but it is underload...(FAH)

ill chek wen the temps go high again....

and in MBM it says the sensor is WinBond 1 :01:
05-12-2004, 08:28 PM
atiVidia

rofl ok lets see how this goes...
05-12-2004, 08:54 PM
Spicker

well the "thing" is at 40 degrees now i touched it and it doesnt feel tht hot..
:huh:
05-12-2004, 09:30 PM
FlyingDutchman

Quote:

Originally posted by jaigandhi5@12 May 2004 - 21:02
well the "thing" is at 40 degrees now i touched it and it doesnt feel tht hot..
:huh:

Well, 40° isn't hot.

When you have some compressed air you could try to find the right chip by cooling each chip (one-by-one) with a running PC.
Set MBM to update it's readings every second, so you get feedback fast.
05-12-2004, 09:44 PM
Spicker

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman+12 May 2004 - 22:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FlyingDutchman @ 12 May 2004 - 22:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5@12 May 2004 - 21:02
well the "thing" is at 40 degrees now i touched it and it doesnt feel tht hot..
:huh:

Well, 40° isn't hot.

When you have some compressed air you could try to find the right chip by cooling each chip (one-by-one) with a running PC.
Set MBM to update it's readings every second, so you get feedback fast. [/b][/quote]
im hundred percent sure tht its the norhtbridge because wen i blow a fan on it the temp goes down a couple of degrees (3-5) and wen i put my finger on it, it cools a lil too (1-2 degree go down)

so u saying tht 40degree is not bad for the norhtbridge... :unsure:

yesterday it went up to 50degrees! <_<

btw i put the Clock back to normal and it didnt make any difference...
05-12-2004, 09:54 PM
FlyingDutchman

Quote:

Originally posted by jaigandhi5+12 May 2004 - 21:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jaigandhi5 @ 12 May 2004 - 21:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman@12 May 2004 - 22:38
<!--QuoteBegin-jaigandhi5

Quote:

@12 May 2004 - 21:02
well the "thing" is at 40 degrees now i touched it and it doesnt feel tht hot..
:huh:

Well, 40° isn't hot.

When you have some compressed air you could try to find the right chip by cooling each chip (one-by-one) with a running PC.
Set MBM to update it's readings every second, so you get feedback fast.

im hundred percent sure tht its the norhtbridge because wen i blow a fan on it the temp goes down a couple of degrees (3-5) and wen i put my finger on it, it cools a lil too (1-2 degree go down)

so u saying tht 40degree is not bad for the norhtbridge... :unsure:

yesterday it went up to 50degrees! <_<

btw i put the Clock back to normal and it didnt make any difference... [/b][/quote]
When you touch it it cools down?

Then probably the TIMs bond is broken, and the heatsink is loose on the chip.
Re-seating it with some AS-ceramique should do the trick.

Blowing with a fan proves very little as you cool half your board that way. The fan's output isn't focused. You used a 80mm fan I presume.
05-12-2004, 11:25 PM
atiVidia

on the new boards the thermal sensor is placed very close to the northbridge i believe. thus, when the northbridge outputs more heat, the surrounding area gets hotter too. doesnt mean that the nb itself is that hot tho.

my zalman gets hot quite often, and a thermal diode reading makes it out to be about 5-7° hotter than the CPU itself. its how these things work.
05-13-2004, 12:09 AM
FlyingDutchman

He doesn't answer anymore.

Perhaps his board blew up :ph34r:

Nice sig BTW, @ AtiVidia ! Cool B)
05-13-2004, 12:19 AM
Virtualbody1234

40° isn't hot and shouldn't feel hot. Your body temp is 37°.

50° isn't even extreme. If your system is stable then why worry.

Maybe just a fan added to blow towards the heatsink would keep it cool overclocked.
05-13-2004, 01:04 AM
SciManAl

clear
05-13-2004, 02:49 AM
Spicker

thnx guyz i think ill jus buy some thermal paste and put it on... ;)

and no my board didnt blow up
:lol:

if tht happened my dad wud kill me! i wudnt get a computer again...unless i get it with my own money <_<
05-13-2004, 06:33 AM
ck-uk

Quote:

Originally posted by jaigandhi5+12 May 2004 - 11:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jaigandhi5 @ 12 May 2004 - 11:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ck-uk@12 May 2004 - 09:42
if your hav'nt oc imo your gettin carried away m8 a heatsink should be sufficient ..the only solution with out payin is relax the memory....

how could i relax the memory? :unsure: [/b][/quote]
if you tweake'd or set any options on aggressive reset back to default.the nouthbridge controlls the memory bandwith easin it should obviously chill abit....