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alright so that time has come that i need to run teh ethernet cable from my room to my basement for the hub. to buy a 100ft cable is pretty expensive, so im thinking of crimping my own wire.
so far i know what parts i need, and the order of the wires (sort of) but what i really dont understand is
1. how do you get these wires to sit in order inside the rj45 end?
2. once they are in, how do they stay?
3. do i have to use a crimping tool, or can it be done with pliers\by hand?
thanks.
You'll need a tool which will do all that.You can't do it by hand (you can try but it'll be very hard).I don't know how the device is called , but I've seen it and seen how to use it.It's very simple.
ya its called a crimper. i was wondering if i could do it by hand, but i guess not...Quote:
Originally posted by Dark Ride@16 May 2004 - 09:27
You'll need a tool which will do all that.You can't do it by hand (you can try but it'll be very hard).I don't know how the device is called , but I've seen it and seen how to use it.It's very simple.
This topic might help
thanks. but that is showing the order of the wires, which i already know...i need to know more about how to crimp it...i think i will probably just ask a guy at homedepot or something.Quote:
why are you using your old username? i know i asked u this before but i cant remember which thread it was in so i cant check :( lol
It is important to make sure you have a straight edge before you start, so manipilate the last 10cm of cable in your hands for a few seconds to make sure it is supple, then cut the end square with a craft knife.
Then carefully cut off about 2cm of the outer sheath without damaging the insulation of the inner wires, untwist the pairs (with care you can untwist a little into the outer sheath) and line them up in the order you require. You will now probably find that they are all slightly different lengths, but thats ok because you don't need 2cm exposed. Cut across them again with the craft knife to get a square edge again with about 8mm of the inner wires left exposed, then slide them into the connector. DO NOT remove the insulation from the inner wires.
The connector has channels inside which separate the wires, so you can now look and make sure that the wires are in the right order. If they've swapped round simply take them out and try again. The outer insulation should also be about 5mm inside the connector. Push the cable fully into the connector, if the wires don't reach the end of the connector then they were too short and you will need to remove a little more of the outer sheath. If the outer sheath doesn't go about 5mm into the connector then the inner wires are too long and you'll have to trim them back a little
At this point you should really use a crimp tool, but make sure that the connector and crimp tool match, there are at least two different types and if you use the wrong one you will simply crush the connector.
If you are going to try to crimp it by hand, it is best to lock the wire into the connector before you try to push in the individual contacts. Near the bottom of the connector there is a gripper which locks onto the outer insulation. You should be able to push this in using a wide flat screwdriver blade, you may have to hit the screwdriver with the palm of your hand. Make sure the cable is pushed all the way home before you do this.
The connector and cable are now locked together, so you should be able to tap the individual contacts home with a thin screwdriver, you don't need much force and you need to be very careful that you don't split the plastic case at this point.
Finally, you chould sheck your connections with a meter. The important wires are 1, 2, 4 and 5, if those are connected you should have a good network cable.
Edit: typos
orange, orange/white, green, blue/white, blue, green/white, brown, brown/white
Rossco why not just go wireless? Cost I know . But figure in the cost of the cable . :)
Edit : And the hole in the floor! :)
yes wireless is too expensive. way more than the wire...and the holes are already made (i was bored :lol: )...Quote:
Originally posted by peat moss@16 May 2004 - 18:11
Rossco why not just go wireless? Cost I know . But figure in the cost of the cable . :)
Edit : And the hole in the floor! :)
@lynx, thats so much that was a great guide. none that i have found on teh internet had any pictures, and none explained with much detail so i had no idea how the connectors work. thanks for that, i now understand a bit better. i think i will need a crimper..
Honestly, I think that you could find some patch ethernet cable pretty cheap. I got 100' of CAT 5e for $11 US (after shipping) on ebay. The crimpers alone would probably cost close to that.
It's not that hard. We had to do it as an assignment for a cisco class I had a while back. You should be able to find a graph or something on the net that tells you which wires go where on the rj-45 connector. We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive. I don't think you need one but you will definately need to crimp it correctly and make sure you don't nip the wires to close.
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We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive.
cable testers ;)
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ya, i don't need one of them though, all i need is my computer :) plug it in, and if it can access the net, its working :)
ya, i don't need one of them though, all i need is my computer :) plug it in, and if it can access the net, its working :) [/b][/quote]Quote:
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We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive.
cable testers ;)
if the current is too dim tho, ud be seeing major packet loss, forcing ur speed down 10 fold
Toners are more fun than testers, though...
you get to walk around waving a beeping wand, like a Ghostbuster :D
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Your on the right track. A little broad though. They were more than cable testers. I'd have to bring out my old netcad book to see exactly what their called in a literal sense. ;)
Your on the right track. A little broad though. They were more than cable testers. I'd have to bring out my old netcad book to see exactly what their called in a literal sense. ;) [/b][/quote]Quote:
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We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive.
cable testers ;)
just searched google, they're called ethernet cable testers. ;)
just searched google, they're called ethernet cable testers. ;)[/b][/quote]Quote:
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We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive.
cable testers ;)
Your on the right track. A little broad though. They were more than cable testers. I'd have to bring out my old netcad book to see exactly what their called in a literal sense. ;)
Wow two complete morons :lol:
Stay away from google when it comes to subjects you know nothing about. ;)
Drumrollllllllllllllllllllll. Their called MULTIMETERS
http://www.test-and-measurement-inst...fluke_dmms.jpg :)
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We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive.
cable testers ;)
Your on the right track. A little broad though. They were more than cable testers. I'd have to bring out my old netcad book to see exactly what their called in a literal sense. ;)
just searched google, they're called ethernet cable testers. ;)
Stay away from google when it comes to subjects you know nothing about. ;)
Drumrollllllllllllllllllllll. Their called MULTIMETERS
http://www.test-and-measurement-inst...fluke_dmms.jpg :) [/b][/quote]
oh that is what ur talking about? i have a multimeter.
but what i thought u meant is this other thing that has a few lights on it, and you plug the cable into it and it lights up the lgihts to tell you if it gets a connection or not, and if not then it has certain combinations that tell you what hte problem is. i saw a guy using it once at my old school, looked pretty handy to have. and it definately wasnt a multimeter :lol:
here is the thing i am talking about. it was something like this:
linky.http://www.hobbes.com.tw/products/te...551/256551.gif
oh that is what ur talking about? i have a multimeter.Quote:
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We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive.
cable testers ;)
Your on the right track. A little broad though. They were more than cable testers. I'd have to bring out my old netcad book to see exactly what their called in a literal sense. ;)
just searched google, they're called ethernet cable testers. ;)
Wow two complete morons :lol:
Stay away from google when it comes to subjects you know nothing about. ;)
Drumrollllllllllllllllllllll. Their called MULTIMETERS
http://www.test-and-measurement-inst...fluke_dmms.jpg :)
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You have a multimeter? Ok.
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We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive.
cable testers ;)
Your on the right track. A little broad though. They were more than cable testers. I'd have to bring out my old netcad book to see exactly what their called in a literal sense. ;)
just searched google, they're called ethernet cable testers. ;)
Wow two complete morons :lol:
Stay away from google when it comes to subjects you know nothing about. ;)
Drumrollllllllllllllllllllll. Their called MULTIMETERS
http://www.test-and-measurement-inst...fluke_dmms.jpg :)
oh that is what ur talking about? i have a multimeter.
i do, i had a thread about it a while ago. i didnt know what it was, an electrician guy left it at my grandmas house, so she gave me it. its kinda old, but it works fine...its got more selections than the one you have in ur post...
i do, i had a thread about it a while ago. i didnt know what it was, an electrician guy left it at my grandmas house, so she gave me it. its kinda old, but it works fine...its got more selections than the one you have in ur post... [/b][/quote]Quote:
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We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive.
cable testers ;)
Your on the right track. A little broad though. They were more than cable testers. I'd have to bring out my old netcad book to see exactly what their called in a literal sense. ;)
just searched google, they're called ethernet cable testers. ;)
Wow two complete morons :lol:
Stay away from google when it comes to subjects you know nothing about. ;)
Drumrollllllllllllllllllllll. Their called MULTIMETERS
http://www.test-and-measurement-inst...fluke_dmms.jpg :)
oh that is what ur talking about? i have a multimeter.
You have a multimeter? Ok.
The one in the picture is a Fluke. They are the biggest distributer of multimeters worldwide. They make all diffrent kinds, various models.
Also If I were you and you don't need that multimeter you should sell it to a pawn shop or something. Good ones (especially Fluke's) are worth a bit. :)
The one in the picture is a Fluke. They are the biggest distributer of multimeters worldwide. They make all diffrent kinds, various models.Quote:
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We also used a tool to test the throughput and stuff. I forget the name but they very expensive.
cable testers ;)
Your on the right track. A little broad though. They were more than cable testers. I'd have to bring out my old netcad book to see exactly what their called in a literal sense. ;)
just searched google, they're called ethernet cable testers. ;)
Wow two complete morons :lol:
Stay away from google when it comes to subjects you know nothing about. ;)
Drumrollllllllllllllllllllll. Their called MULTIMETERS
http://www.test-and-measurement-inst...fluke_dmms.jpg :)
oh that is what ur talking about? i have a multimeter.
You have a multimeter? Ok.
i do, i had a thread about it a while ago. i didnt know what it was, an electrician guy left it at my grandmas house, so she gave me it. its kinda old, but it works fine...its got more selections than the one you have in ur post...
Also If I were you and you don't need that multimeter you should sell it to a pawn shop or something. Good ones (especially Fluke's) are worth a bit. :) [/b][/quote]
here is mine (scannered it in):
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im not selling it, i like playing with it :)
Do you actually know how to use it? :lol:Quote:
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im not selling it, i like playing with it :)
good ones may be worth a bit, but you can have a Radio Shack mulitmeter for about 5$.
and yeah...the testers that ROSSCO posted were the ones I was referring to.
*edit: sorry....$15
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im not selling it, i like playing with it :)
yes i do...
the mode it is in in that picture tells me how much loss you get through the wire you are testing. If you put the ends together directly it beeps and displays 0 on the screen. but if there is loss it will beep less loud or not at all, and the number will be .xxx to show how much was lost. in the pic it says 1 becasue there is no electricity getting from the red to black...
or i can turn it clockwise to where it says 'V' and pput it to any of the numbers (closest without going under is best) to test teh voltage of a line.
havent quite figured teh rest out yet, but what i know is all i need for now.