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which version is good for what kind of users?
The best version for ALL types of users is XP Pro CorporateQuote:
Originally posted by aizlumzan@4 July 2004 - 14:48
which version is good for what kind of users?
The Corporate version just means that it doesn't need activating, you just need a valid key
emule verified link here
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showt...dpost&p=1022811
if you only use kazaa or similar then you will find the link on page 1 of the above link (I don't recommend using this though, due to the high level of corruption on the kazaa network)
I just got Media Center Edition. Looks good. Just about the same as others. Wish I had the money to buy the remote for it. Got a tv tuner though. B)
XP Home is good for people with 56k who can't download shit and have to buuy something cheap.
XP Pro is good for people in small businesses who obviously can't use illegal software...
XP Corp is good for file sharers and large businesses.
Any time you are gonna download XP then get CORP. ;)
Well I have XP PRO 2002 version...
I have XP Pro Corporate :rolleyes:
im an xp corp user with sp2 installed.
you really should get the corp, because no registration!
I don't believe that there is ANY difference between Pro and Corp other then the activation.Quote:
Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@4 July 2004 - 10:18
XP Home is good for people with 56k who can't download shit and have to buuy something cheap.
XP Pro is good for people in small businesses who obviously can't use illegal software...
XP Corp is good for file sharers and large businesses.
Any time you are gonna download XP then get CORP. ;)
You can install Pro with a corp key and eliminate the activation, too.
xp pro corp is the easiest and most reliable. plus, most come with sp1 integrated, if not, u can do it urself, like wat i did. works great.
Just so we have our terminology correct, here are the versions of XP that MS sells:
Any other names are made up by someone else.Quote:
Windows XP Editions
Home Edition/Professional/Media Center Edition/Tablet PC Edition/64-Bit Edition
well, i downloaded pro edition from BT yesterday. should've asked before i downloaded. havent installed yet though. what is about the activation? I have XP pro i bought 2 years ago. never needed to activate with that one.
Pro dosnt need an activation.Quote:
Originally posted by aizlumzan@4 July 2004 - 15:17
well, i downloaded pro edition from BT yesterday. should've asked before i downloaded. havent installed yet though. what is about the activation? I have XP pro i bought 2 years ago. never needed to activate with that one.
After you install you have thirty days to "activate " with MS.
It takes but a sec ( and an internet connection, of course) and I assume that they are checking the validity of your key.
If you don't activate, on the thirtieth day you can't boot into the desktop, instead you get a message telling you to activate.
Edit:
It most assuredly DOES.Quote:
Pro dosnt need an activation.
If you happen to have a Corporate key, then it does not, but a pro key with a Pro installation DOES NEED ACTIVATION.
Let me clarify all of the above regarding Pro and Corp. There is no difference between Pro and Corp other than the activation (as someone has already mentioned), even if you have a CORP installed it will say XP Pro.
You CANNOT use Xp Corp keys on a PRO unless you change certain files on the disk. People make the common mistake of confusing CORP for PRO because they both look EXACTLY the same.
The version aizlumzan downloaded 2 years ago is XP Corp and not Pro, even though it says XP Professional.
XP Corp was developed to save large companies with hundreds of pc's the trouble of activating them all.
Windows XP: Microsoft Product Activation
Beware of blacklisted VLKs. They will prevent you from updating. Use The Blue list keygen.Quote:
Product Activation and volume licenses
Windows XP upgrade licenses acquired through one of Microsoft's volume licensing agreements, such as Microsoft Open License, Enterprise Agreement, or Select License, will not require activation. Installations of Windows XP made using volume licensing media and volume license product keys (VLKs) will have no activation, hardware checking, or limitations on installation or imaging.
What about WinXP Media Centre Edition? Is that worth downloading over the other lot?
That is funny because I have done it at least 5 different times and it worked for me.Quote:
Originally posted by Robert00000@4 July 2004 - 17:21
You CANNOT use Xp Corp keys on a PRO unless you change certain files on the disk. People make the common mistake of confusing CORP for PRO because they both look EXACTLY the same.
Using a real live MS disk titled "Microsoft XP Professional" and using Corp keys from the Blue Key gen, I have installed and avoided activation without changing any files on the disk.
How certain are you of your information?
That is funny because I have done it at least 5 different times and it worked for me.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+5 July 2004 - 12:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 5 July 2004 - 12:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@4 July 2004 - 17:21
You CANNOT use Xp Corp keys on a PRO unless you change certain files on the disk. People make the common mistake of confusing CORP for PRO because they both look EXACTLY the same.
Using a real live MS disk titled "Microsoft XP Professional" and using Corp keys from the Blue Key gen, I have installed and avoided activation without changing any files on the disk.
How certain are you of your information? [/b][/quote]
Let me reiterate. There is no difference between PRO and CORP in appearance. How do you know its not a CORP? A Corp disk is titled as XP Professional, because its essentially a volume licenced version of PRO. The only difference is it doesnt need activation.
And guess what? I have Pro, Corp, Home, and Home OEM version of XP. All but the corp are legit. I've tried using keys for different versions on other disks and they don't work.
Um, because it is sold as a single user "student" version at the U of Iowa student bookstore?Quote:
Originally posted by Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 09:44
Let me reiterate. There is no difference between PRO and CORP in appearance. How do you know its not a CORP? A Corp disk is titled as XP Professional, because its essentially a volume licenced version of PRO.
How likely is it that they are selling "Corp" versions by mistake?
Just for grins, I generated a corporate key and installed using that instead of the key that was on the sleeve.
Worked fine and no activation.
Since then I have duplicated this on several other PCs.
Oh well, I am hardly an expert on MS products, just reporting what I have found to work.
hrm...i have xp home and pro (the actually bought versions)...im building a new computer...can i use the pro(or the home) and just change the key or something? or do i have to download the corp edition in order to be able to update? and will i be able to install the corp edition the first time i boot the computer up?
oh and is sp2 out already? im seeing corp versions with sp2 and i thought it wasnt out yet...hmmm
if u have bought them, why would u wanna change the keys anyway?
u are fine with everything, from update to upgrade
and SP2 is NOT OFFICIALLY OUT YET. wat u are seeing is the Release Candidate which is just a stable beta release (and this message goes to everyone who is thinking bout asking the same question, argghh i can't take this anymore)
gildan2020
because i already used these 2 cds on different computers...and activated them....so if i download xp corp from suprnova will i be able to start up my computer with it? the first time
You'll be able to use it anyway, but ok if u want just download corp.Quote:
Originally posted by XxKrNxStyLeZxX@5 July 2004 - 14:45
because i already used these 2 cds on different computers...and activated them....so if i download xp corp from suprnova will i be able to start up my computer with it? the first time
yes you will be able to start up with it.
Would some please mind posting a pic or a link or anything official that shows a version of XP that is labeled "Corporate"?
Um, because it is sold as a single user "student" version at the U of Iowa student bookstore?Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+5 July 2004 - 17:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 5 July 2004 - 17:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 09:44
Let me reiterate. There is no difference between PRO and CORP in appearance. How do you know its not a CORP? A Corp disk is titled as XP Professional, because its essentially a volume licenced version of PRO.
How likely is it that they are selling "Corp" versions by mistake?
Just for grins, I generated a corporate key and installed using that instead of the key that was on the sleeve.
Worked fine and no activation.
Since then I have duplicated this on several other PCs.
Oh well, I am hardly an expert on MS products, just reporting what I have found to work. [/b][/quote]
When we say Pro we refer to the standard versions (retail and OEM), which are the proper Pro.
Your copy was obtained under the Educational License, and differs from normal Pro version.
The version you have isn't a Pro version, it may say its a Pro, but so does a Corp. When we use Pro and Corp we differentiate between the different activation systems employed.
The version you have is exactly the same in function as the Corp version and would be refered to as Corp version. Corp version isn't just for corporations, they are used by educational establishments and government bodies.
If it can use Corp keys then it has the same files as the Corp version that don't need activation.
The difference between a Pro and Corp version of XP is about 17 Meg of files. You can download these files from the net to turn a Pro into a Corp.
?????? :oQuote:
Originally posted by clocker@5 July 2004 - 23:16
Would some please mind posting a pic or a link or anything official that shows a version of XP that is labeled "Corporate"?
Read my posts again. :blink:
Who is "we"?Quote:
Originally posted by Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 16:36
When we use Pro and Corp we differentiate between the different activation systems employed.
Who is "we"? [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+6 July 2004 - 02:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 6 July 2004 - 02:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 16:36
When we use Pro and Corp we differentiate between the different activation systems employed.
Those of us in the know ;) It's how we differentiate between the different versions of Pro, otherwise it would be confusing.
Who is "we"? [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+6 July 2004 - 02:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 6 July 2004 - 02:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 16:36
When we use Pro and Corp we differentiate between the different activation systems employed.
Poor guy's watched lotr too many times now, he thinks he's gollum.
http://refugio.f2o.org/archivos/imagenes/gollum.jpg
we will have the precious, give it to us! give it to us!! :lol:
There you go with the "we" thing again.Quote:
Originally posted by Robert00000@6 July 2004 - 03:15
Those of us in the know ;) It's how we differentiate between the different versions of Pro, otherwise it would be confusing.Quote:
Who is "we"?
Are "we" some sort of secret society, like the Masons or the Justin Timberlake Fan Club?
Back on topic....
Am I safe in saying that functionally there are only TWO versions of XP- Home and Pro?
I thought you said that the only difference between Pro and Pro Corp was the activation files? 17MB is fucking huge for just that.Quote:
Originally posted by Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 23:36
The difference between a Pro and Corp version of XP is about 17 Meg of files. You can download these files from the net to turn a Pro into a Corp.
In any case, I have a friend that bought XP Pro and installed it where he worked using generated Corp keys, so if it's not the actual keys that are different but the activation files themselves, why did neither installation need to be activated? His wasn't a 'student', 'library', government', 'SAS' or anything other than a PC World purchased copy.
Similarly, if one can't use a VLK on 'ordinary' Pro because the activation files are different, by the same token one could not use an ordinary Pro key on the Corp version, otherwise it'd be pointless to put out two different versions.
If this is the case then we have many people hallucinating SP2 activation problems... which surely can't happen because the activation files don't actually activate on the Corp version, do they?
Be wary of BL generated keys, clocker, cuz M$ are believed to have coded into SP2 detection for them.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@5 July 2004 - 12:54
Using a real live MS disk titled "Microsoft XP Professional" and using Corp keys from the Blue Key gen, I have installed and avoided activation without changing any files on the disk.
Google for XP SP2 640 for more.
so is there a keygen that wont get detected?
I find a bunch of different reviews on SP2 and on logitech z-640's lol.Quote:
Originally posted by Chewie UK@6 July 2004 - 11:24
Google for XP SP2 640 for more.
What were we meant to see?
Really?Quote:
Originally posted by Chewie UK@6 July 2004 - 09:24
Be wary of BL generated keys, clocker, cuz M$ are believed to have coded into SP2 detection for them.
Google for XP SP2 640 for more.
O, those crafty devils in Redmond!
T'will be irrelevant to me as I shall be running a completely legal version of Server 2003 by then anyway.
Not to mention, my XP Pro "student edition" is valid, too.
But I may just start using MS BOB and avoid the problem altogether.
Yep, thats what 'we' are, how did you know. Have you been following us ? :oQuote:
Originally posted by clocker@6 July 2004 - 13:21
There you go with the "we" thing again.
Are "we" some sort of secret society, like the Masons or the Justin Timberlake Fan Club?
As for the two versions, there is only one verion of HOME if we exclude the OEM version. There is an OEM version of Pro too. OEM's are pre-activated, so don't need activation on the machine it was intended for.
I thought you said that the only difference between Pro and Pro Corp was the activation files? 17MB is fucking huge for just that.Quote:
Originally posted by Chewie UK+6 July 2004 - 16:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chewie UK @ 6 July 2004 - 16:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Robert00000@5 July 2004 - 23:36
The difference between a Pro and Corp version of XP is about 17 Meg of files. You can download these files from the net to turn a Pro into a Corp.
In any case, I have a friend that bought XP Pro and installed it where he worked using generated Corp keys, so if it's not the actual keys that are different but the activation files themselves, why did neither installation need to be activated? His wasn't a 'student', 'library', government', 'SAS' or anything other than a PC World purchased copy.
Similarly, if one can't use a VLK on 'ordinary' Pro because the activation files are different, by the same token one could not use an ordinary Pro key on the Corp version, otherwise it'd be pointless to put out two different versions.
If this is the case then we have many people hallucinating SP2 activation problems... which surely can't happen because the activation files don't actually activate on the Corp version, do they? [/b][/quote]
The hot weather is boiling my brain and this topic is draggin on too long. I've got two businesses to run so give me a break :wacko:
I'll answer only a couple more questions after this and thats it, you will have to do research to find the answers.
re - Activation files, if it were as simple as one or two files needing replacment then people would be able to pir@te XP with ease. The download of files to convert a Pro to a Corp is 17 Meg in size. These files over lap the code for Pro, so most of it doesn t relate to the activation.
re - Installation of Pro by your friend. Was it a retail version? If so it would raise questions about the recent versions of pro. Releases of software always change as do their tactics to prevent pir@cy.
By the way the versions of XP i use are legit :D just in case there are spies here :lol:
wait so whats the answer to this thread?? because I dl'ed the corp version and already have a storebought XP PRO ( need keygen or crack to use it again tho)...im wondering if i should install the corp, or install the retail version but use the blue list keygen or that other crack
Install your store bought XP Pro with a generated key.Quote:
Originally posted by XxKrNxStyLeZxX@6 July 2004 - 22:35
wait so whats the answer to this thread?? because I dl'ed the corp version and already have a storebought XP PRO ( need keygen or crack to use it again tho)...im wondering if i should install the corp, or install the retail version but use the blue list keygen or that other crack
WTH, if we're (excepting Robert) all wrong you've only wasted an hour anyway.
The hot weather is boiling my brain and this topic is draggin on too long. I've got two businesses to run so give me a break :wacko:Quote:
Originally posted by Robert00000+6 July 2004 - 20:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Robert00000 @ 6 July 2004 - 20:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by Chewie UK@6 July 2004 - 16:18
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@5 July 2004 - 23:36
The difference between a Pro and Corp version of XP is about 17 Meg of files. You can download these files from the net to turn a Pro into a Corp.
I thought you said that the only difference between Pro and Pro Corp was the activation files? 17MB is fucking huge for just that.
In any case, I have a friend that bought XP Pro and installed it where he worked using generated Corp keys, so if it's not the actual keys that are different but the activation files themselves, why did neither installation need to be activated? His wasn't a 'student', 'library', government', 'SAS' or anything other than a PC World purchased copy.
Similarly, if one can't use a VLK on 'ordinary' Pro because the activation files are different, by the same token one could not use an ordinary Pro key on the Corp version, otherwise it'd be pointless to put out two different versions.
If this is the case then we have many people hallucinating SP2 activation problems... which surely can't happen because the activation files don't actually activate on the Corp version, do they?
I'll answer only a couple more questions after this and thats it, you will have to do research to find the answers.
re - Activation files, if it were as simple as one or two files needing replacment then people would be able to pir@te XP with ease. The download of files to convert a Pro to a Corp is 17 Meg in size. These files over lap the code for Pro, so most of it doesn t relate to the activation.
re - Installation of Pro by your friend. Was it a retail version? If so it would raise questions about the recent versions of pro. Releases of software always change as do their tactics to prevent pir@cy.
By the way the versions of XP i use are legit :D just in case there are spies here :lol: [/b][/quote]
Only answer a couple more questions? Shit, I'd be happy if you answered just one of mine. Should be simple for those in the 'know'.
Raising questions about recent versions, PC World don't do anything other than retail, and my friend paid about £170 shortly after its release.