First Time Building A Computer

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07-13-2004, 01:17 AM
apunkrockmonk

This is my first time building my own computer. I've installed cards and ram before. I'm buying almost everything from newegg, I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything or making any mistakes.

2x ADI 8" 4-Pin Power Cable Splitter
$3.18

1x ANTEC UV rounded IDE Cable, ATA-133, Model "A36UV-W" -RETAIL
Features:
Wrapped with UV-activated plastic tubing for maximum air flow improvement
40-pin 80-conductor cable, ATA133/ 100/ 66/ 33 compliant for high speed data transfer (A26 IDE cable)
Highly flexible 26" round cable (16" + 10") with two device connections, one motherboard connector.
Shielded with aluminum foil and braided silver mesh w/ ground, for maximum shielding
$12.05

1x Thermaltake XRound Cable SATA-UV 18-Inch 2-Head (SERIAL ATA 150) Cable, CLEAR, Model "A2101" -RETAIL
$3.89

1x ABIT "NF7-S" nForce2 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Duron/Athlon/Athlon XP Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 SPP + MCP-T
FSB: 400/333/266MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR333/266 Max 3GB, 2x DIMM for DDR400 Max 2GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS/2,2xCOM,1xLPT,SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear 2),1xLAN,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: nVIDIA SoundStorm APU(Dolby 5.1) + 6-Channel AC97 CODEC
Onboard LAN: 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA, RAID 0/1
Onboard 1394: 2 Ports
Form Factor: ATX
$85

1x SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9800 PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -BULK
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9800 PRO/380MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/680MHz
BUS: AGP 8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out)+DVI Connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0
Cable/Accessories: 4 Cables, VGA via DVI Adapter, PowerDVD, Driver CD
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
$199

1x AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2500+, 266 FSB, 512K Cache - OEM
Specifications:
Manufacturer: AMD
Model: AXMH2500FQQ4C
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 1.83GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.45V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM
$88

2x Crucial 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 8T - OEM
Specifications:
Manufacturer: Crucial
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime
$172

1x Seagate 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3120026AS, OEM
Specifications:
Capacity: 120GB
Average Seek Time: 8.5 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: Serial ATA
Features: 350 Gs non-op shock, 3D Defense System
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Packaging: OEM, Requires additional Power adapter
$96

1x Logitech Cordless MX Duo USB/ PS/2 104keys -RETAIL
Specifications:
Interface: USB/ PS/2
Number Of Keys: 104 keys + 12 function keys + 2 wheel
Wireless Technology: RF
Palm Rest: Detachable
Design Style: Standard
Mouse included: wireless optical
Features: Eliminate the clutter with cordless freedom, Get comfortable with the keyboard's ultra-flat Zero Degree Tilt design, Make scrolling easier with the unique iNav wheel, Ground-breaking new MX optical engine captures more data every second, Cruise Control system combines two buttons with scroll wheel, Rapid charge base station
$74

1x SAMSUNG 710N-Black 17" LCD Monitor -RETAIL
Specifications:
Panel Type: a-si TFT/TN LCD
Native Resolution: 1280 x 1024
Pixel Pitch: 0.264 mm
Brightness: 300 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 600:1
Response Time: 12 ms
View Angle: 160° / 140° (Horizontal / Vertical)
Input Connectors: 15pin D-Sub
Features: Narrow Bezel, MagicBright
Dimensions & Weight: 14.6" x 15.0" x 6.9" (WxHxD), 9.6 lbs
Manufacturer's Warranty / Phone No.: 3 years parts, labor and backlight / 800-726-7864
Dead Pixels Policy: Replacement or Refund for 8 or more DEAD PIXELS ONLY!
$419

1x Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM, Model SOHD-167T Black, RETAIL
Specifications:
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Access Time: 120ms
Buffer Size: 512KB
OS Support: Windows 98SE/ NT4.0/ ME/ 2000/ XP
Features: SMART-X: Smart Monitoring & Adjusting Read-speed Technology for eXtraction, ABS: Auto Balance System
Packaging: Retail (w/ PowerDVD 5)
$30.99

1x NEC 8X Black Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive, Model ND-2510A BLK, OEM BULK
Specifications:
Write Speed: 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD-RW, 2.4X DVD+R DL, 32X CD-R, 16X CD-RW
Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM, 12X DVD-ROM
Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
OS Support: Windows XP/2000/Me/98SE
Features: Support for writing DVD+R DL; Vertical operation possible, anti-dust seal.
Packaging: OEM Bulk Pack (No Software Included)
$79.99

1x ZALMAN CNPS7000A-Cu Pure Copper CPU Cooler for AMD XP Socket 462/ 754 and Intel Socket 478
Specification:
Compatibility:Intel Pentium 4 (Socket478), AMD Athlon/Duron/Athlon XP (Socket 462), and AMD Athlon 64 (Socket754) .
Dimensions: 200L x 23W x 21H mm
Bearing Type: 2 Ball
Nominal Speed(RPM): 1350~ 2400
Max Air Flow:(CFM): Not Specified
Max Pressure: Not Specified
Heat Sink Material: Pure Copper
Rated Voltage: 12V DC
Noise(dBA): 20~ 25
Special Features: Adjustable fan speed controller(Fan Mate 1)enables control of noise and fan performance.
$40.99

and I'm thinking about getting this case: Case because I can pick it up locally, but I don't know what power supply to get.

I chose the mobile barton because of the unlocked multiplier.

Any suguestions?
07-13-2004, 01:35 AM
tesco

For power supply get atleast 400watts, and has to be brand name else it will be crap. Enermax, Thermal Take, Zalman, Antec are all good. A few other good ones but these are the majors.

I wouldn't buy a DVD-ROM and DVD burner...waste IMO. Better to just make an image then burn it instead of doing on-the-fly. ;)

Make sure you get a few case fans as well.

Rest looks good though. Nice mouse and keyboard. B)
07-13-2004, 01:39 AM
apunkrockmonk

I figured I'd buy a powersupply that fits as well as casefans when i bought the case at that store. Alot of the cases I look at look to gaudy to me. This one comes close to my gaudyness limit in the front, but the sidepanel does look good in the dark (saw a picture at a review site). It got great reviews, and its cheap. It also has a removable motherboard tray.... but I'm sure I could do better if I looked more, but I spent a few hours looking.
07-13-2004, 01:42 AM
tesco

Power supply i wouldn't buy in teh shop. Might not have a very good selection. Probably a lot of shitty ones and one or two overpriced good ones.
Just buy the power supply from newegg.
07-13-2004, 01:47 AM
apunkrockmonk

Any suguestions of which one to get?
07-13-2004, 03:09 AM
Super Dude

Nice setup.

PSU:Fortron 530W - $75

As for the LCD, you might want to get Samsung's 710T - the difference between them, is that the 710T is using a DVI whilst the 710N uses an Analog input.Colours will look nicer, and there will be less ghosting with a Dvi.I've read many good things about the 710T from gamers, but the 710N should be just as good.

Your call.
07-13-2004, 03:12 AM
tesco

Quote:

Originally posted by Super Dude@12 July 2004 - 22:17
Nice setup.

PSU:Fortron 530W - $75

As for the LCD, you might want to get Samsung's 710T - the difference between them, is that the 710T is using a DVI whilst the 710N uses an Analog input.Colours will look nicer, and there will be less ghosting with a Dvi.I've read many good things about the 710T from gamers, but the 710N should be just as good.

Your call.

Will it actually be noticeably different? Or is it one of those things like rca to svideo video...i saw no difference in that switch for my dvd player. ;)
07-13-2004, 03:12 AM
SingaBoiy

Quote:

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@12 July 2004 - 16:43
For power supply get atleast 400watts, and has to be brand name else it will be crap. Enermax, Thermal Take, Zalman, Antec are all good. A few other good ones but these are the majors.

:P
07-13-2004, 03:13 AM
tesco

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Originally posted by SingaBoiy+12 July 2004 - 22:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SingaBoiy @ 12 July 2004 - 22:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@12 July 2004 - 16:43
For power supply get atleast 400watts, and has to be brand name else it will be crap. Enermax, Thermal Take, Zalman, Antec are all good. A few other good ones but these are the majors.

:P [/b][/quote]
:blink: :unsure: what?
07-13-2004, 03:15 AM
SingaBoiy

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Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+12 July 2004 - 18:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 12 July 2004 - 18:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

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Originally posted by SingaBoiy@12 July 2004 - 22:20
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@12 July 2004 - 16:43
For power supply get atleast 400watts, and has to be brand name else it will be crap. Enermax, Thermal Take, Zalman, Antec are all good. A few other good ones but these are the majors.

:P

:blink: :unsure: what? [/b][/quote]
He asked for a recommendation
07-13-2004, 03:23 AM
Digital Nirvana

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Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@12 July 2004 - 18:21

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Originally posted by SingaBoiy@12 July 2004 - 22:20
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@12 July 2004 - 16:43
For power supply get atleast 400watts, and has to be brand name else it will be crap. Enermax, Thermal Take, Zalman, Antec are all good. A few other good ones but these are the majors.

:P

:blink: :unsure: what?

He asked for a recommendation [/b][/quote]
and he recommended those :frusty: :unsure:
07-13-2004, 03:26 AM
tesco

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Originally posted by SingaBoiy+12 July 2004 - 22:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SingaBoiy @ 12 July 2004 - 22:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

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Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@12 July 2004 - 18:21

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Originally posted by SingaBoiy@12 July 2004 - 22:20
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@12 July 2004 - 16:43
For power supply get atleast 400watts, and has to be brand name else it will be crap. Enermax, Thermal Take, Zalman, Antec are all good. A few other good ones but these are the majors.

:P

:blink: :unsure: what?

He asked for a recommendation [/b][/quote]
I posted this before he asked though...

and i don''t have an exact recomendation. :blink:
07-13-2004, 04:00 AM
apunkrockmonk

Quote:

Originally posted by Super Dude@13 July 2004 - 03:17
Nice setup.

PSU:Fortron 530W - $75

As for the LCD, you might want to get Samsung's 710T - the difference between them, is that the 710T is using a DVI whilst the 710N uses an Analog input.Colours will look nicer, and there will be less ghosting with a Dvi.I've read many good things about the 710T from gamers, but the 710N should be just as good.

Your call.

You think the DVI connector is worth paying $81 more? Will it really look that much better?
07-13-2004, 04:27 AM
SingaBoiy

Quote:

Originally posted by apunkrockmonk+12 July 2004 - 19:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (apunkrockmonk @ 12 July 2004 - 19:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Super Dude@13 July 2004 - 03:17
Nice setup.

PSU:Fortron 530W - $75

As for the LCD, you might want to get Samsung's 710T - the difference between them, is that the 710T is using a DVI whilst the 710N uses an Analog input.Colours will look nicer, and there will be less ghosting with a Dvi.I've read many good things about the 710T from gamers, but the 710N should be just as good.

Your call.

You think the DVI connector is worth paying $81 more? Will it really look that much better? [/b][/quote]
If your gonna be spending that much on a monitor. You should go with the DVI. It will give a better picture.

Edit:
Keep comments related to topics.
07-13-2004, 06:48 AM
abu_has_the_power

don't waste $ getting the dual layer. get the nec one for 67 or 63 (blk or wite) and u can get a firmware hack that will allow it to do the same as ur dual layer burner. just a tip.
07-13-2004, 12:14 PM
apunkrockmonk

Will either NEC one allow you to copy copyrighted dvds?

Edit: And also, if I get the $4.99 Zalman 80mm case fans (4 of them). What exactly do they get their power from? I know the cpu fan gets them from the motherboard, but I doubt there are that many fan connecters on the motherboard. Also, won't I need some sort of extender cable for the fan to reach whatever it uses for power?
07-13-2004, 01:06 PM
Super Dude

Quote:

Originally posted by apunkrockmonk@13 July 2004 - 04:08
You think the DVI connector is worth paying $81 more? Will it really look that much better?

Definitely.
07-17-2004, 02:35 AM
apunkrockmonk

Quote:

Originally posted by apunkrockmonk@13 July 2004 - 12:22
Will either NEC one allow you to copy copyrighted dvds?

Edit: And also, if I get the $4.99 Zalman 80mm case fans (4 of them). What exactly do they get their power from? I know the cpu fan gets them from the motherboard, but I doubt there are that many fan connecters on the motherboard. Also, won't I need some sort of extender cable for the fan to reach whatever it uses for power?

Can someone please answer my question?

Edit: Also, how do I tell if this http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc....-153-006&depa=0 power supply has a SATA power connector, also, thermaltake is a good PS brand right?
07-17-2004, 02:53 AM
tesco

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Originally posted by apunkrockmonk+16 July 2004 - 21:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (apunkrockmonk @ 16 July 2004 - 21:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-apunkrockmonk@13 July 2004 - 12:22
Will either NEC one allow you to copy copyrighted dvds?

Edit: And also, if I get the $4.99 Zalman 80mm case fans (4 of them). What exactly do they get their power from? I know the cpu fan gets them from the motherboard, but I doubt there are that many fan connecters on the motherboard. Also, won't I need some sort of extender cable for the fan to reach whatever it uses for power?

Can someone please answer my question? [/b][/quote]
they connect to molex connectors (same thing as the power source for a hard drive or cd drive):

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(The one on the left side...the right one is for a floppy drive and some video cards.)