Canada's Martin Strips Parrish of Vote Over Anti-U.S. Stance
Interesting news form my country. What do guys think about this? I wonder what that Americans think about this?. If you get it check out the CBC for "This Hour Has 22 Minutes" this friday. I think it is on.
Nov. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin stripped Carolyn Parrish, a legislator who stomped on an effigy of President George W. Bush this week to show her disapproval of his policies, of her right to vote with the ruling party.
The step leaves Parrish as an independent member of Parliament and reduces the number of votes controlled by Martin's governing Liberal Party at a time when it's short of seats needed to form a majority government.
Parrish, who represents a district in Mississauga, Ontario, near Toronto has called Americans ``bastards'' and previously called Bush ``warlike,'' participated in a skit on the satirical program ``This Hour Has 22 Minutes'' in which she crushes the effigy under the heel of her boot.
``While I defend her right to express her views frankly, I cannot as leader of our party tolerate behavior that demeans and disrespects others,'' Martin told reporters at Parliament. ``There are more effective ways to make your case than those that she has chosen.''
Parrish's dismissal leaves Martin's Liberals with 134 deputies, 21 short of the 155 he needs to pass bills in the 308- seat House of Commons.
Check out:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Y&refer=canada
http://www.canada.com/news/national/...0-c4719608617b
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...55/?hub=Canada
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Edmont...05/701334.html
Carolyn Parrish Website: http://www.carolynparrish.parl.gc.ca
Re: Canada's Martin Strips Parrish of Vote Over Anti-U.S. Stance
This is unclear; if he is not stripping her of her vote, but defending what he feels are ideals emblematic of his party, then he has sent a chastising message with no effect other than to dissociate the party from her statements as re: Bush.
It would seem the rest is up to her; she can apparently still vote "with" the party if she chooses to stand on the principles by which she won election, or she can pitch a fit and complete her defection by opting for the label of the opposition, which might not sit too well with her constituents in Mississauga.
What do you think, Ariel?
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To remove the whip from a party member in a parliamentary system is a two edged sword. He has disassociated himself and his Party from her actions but she is free to vote as she pleases in the Parliament. Of course she is unlikely to vote with the opposition on much, if anything, because she would appear to be more radical than Mr Martin, not less. However, with the Party whips no longer counting her as one of their own she is free to push and prod her old Party from the sidelines and she will no doubt be courted if they need that one vote.
Mr Blair has done this to a couple of his more radical members - their constituencies having the gall to re-elect them against an official Blair candidate at subsequent elections. Fortunately for Mr Blair he has always had an enormous majority. :)
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Fortunately for Mr Blair he has always had an enormous majority. :)
not one word boab:no:
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For now I think If he strip Parrish of her vote then it may have a negative effect on Martin. I think the whole point is to dissociate the party from her statements and maybe as a warning to other members that may think of doing the same thing.
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For now I think If he strip Parrish of her vote then it may have a negative effect on Martin. I think the whole point is to dissociate the party from her statements and maybe as a warning to other members that may think of doing the same thing.
This may seem an odd question, but are Canadian politicians queuing up to appear on satirical TV shows? :huh:
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This may seem an odd question, but are Canadian politicians queuing up to appear on satirical TV shows? :huh:
Perhaps. There seems to be lots of Canadian politicians appering on Canadian satirical TV shows. If you get it there check out "This Hour Has 22 Minutes". It is the best with the most politicians in my opinion.
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Dennis is a good man. It will be interesting to see what happens with Gorgeous George.
There are a lot of satirical shows these days. I rather like one called Dead Ringers. The chap who impersonates George W is disturbingly realistic - his speech on Monday night regarding the death of Yassit Crackerjack and the effect of this on the Polyunsaturated people was err... touching.
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Who the feck is this JPaul guy...
....the name sounds vagely familiar, but i cant quite place it :unsure:
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Who the feck is this JPaul guy...
....the name sounds vagely familiar, but i cant quite place it :unsure:
Never you mind, sir; put his drinks on my tab and sully him not. :)
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To be honest, I would prefer a little more professionalism from my representitives.
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To be honest, I would prefer a little more professionalism from my representitives.
I agree - the punch lines tended to be poorly delivered.
I'll get me coat - it is past me bedtime anyhoo.
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:beerchug:
Nice to see old friends. Always a pleasure, never a chore.
Just so- :)
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I quite respect Paul Martin's decision. As MP she was elected to represent her constituents, and her party. Her actions were childish and unnecessary, and did not represent the views of her party, or her constituents. I would like to think that elected officials could carry themselves with a little more maturity than that. That is not the type of person that I want representing Canadians.
EDIT: Hiya J2, long time no see. :)
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Hi yourself, Nik. :)
Just as an exercise (and for the edification of the male contingent here), would you consent to being stripped?
Our research program would benefit greatly; I'm sure you would be a boon to our funding... :D
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Didnt Haig once guest present "Have I got News for You" in the UK?
Actually, theres a few UK politicians of all parties have appeared on Satiracle programmes...
I have no problem with that, no one else takes them seriously, why should they?
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Didnt Haig once guest present "Have I got News for You" in the UK?
Actually, theres a few UK politicians of all parties have appeared on Satiracle programmes...
I have no problem with that, no one else takes them seriously, why should they?
Jesse Jackson once appeared on Saturday Night Live and read the childrens book "Green Eggs and Ham" in his typical over-top-fashion.
I will not eat them is a house!
I will not eat them with a mouse!
I will not eat them in a box!
I will not eat them with a fox!
I will not eat green eggs and ham,
SAM, I AM!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Rat Faced
Didnt Haig once guest present "Have I got News for You" in the UK?
Actually, theres a few UK politicians of all parties have appeared on Satiracle programmes...
I have no problem with that, no one else takes them seriously, why should they?
This is not just over her appearance on This Hour Has 22 Minutes. There have been a number of incidents over the past few years which have led to this point. She has made remarks to the press, such as, "Damn Americans, I hate the bastards." and in an interview on Wednesday, said of the Prime Minister, her party leader, that if Paul Martin, "loses the next election and he has to resign, I wouldn't shed a tear over it. I have absolutely no loyalty to this team -- none."
Her riding in Mississauga has requested a by-election, and will probably get one.
@J2 - Stripped of what exactly? :unsure:
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@J2 - Stripped of what exactly? :unsure:
Why, of whatever's handy, of course. ;)
Hobbes-
I actually liked Jesse for the precise duration of that skit.
Reality thankfully re-asserted itself immediately thereafter.
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To be fair, the "damn Americans" comment wasn't to the press, it was overheard by a journalist and she didn't retract her statement.
:shuriken:
