Do you eat veal?

(Some readers may find this subject matter disturbing)

On an ethical basis, I refuse to eat veal. In fact last year on holiday I had the vegetarian option instead, as veal was the only other choice on the menu.

I was surprised to learn during a discussion at the weekend that many people I know didn't seem to know how veal was produced, and how cruel it is.

Just thought I'd open it up to the forum to discuss...

As a bit of backgroud, veal crates have been illegal in the UK since 1990, and will be outlawed in the EU from 2007. I don't know what the position is in the US.

Here are a couple of random sites I had discovered on this subject.. (some readers may find this subject matter disturbing)

The argument against:
http://www.ciwf.ie/farminfo/farmfacts_veal.html

The argument for:
http://www.ofac.org/factsheets/fact9.html

Yes, but only milk-fed and coming from farms I know. So, no veal crates, only large fields.

Same goes about every meat/poultry/dairy I eat.

The thought of eating veal makes me feel a bit sick but for those that eat meat, is there not a widely available 'organic' or 'free range' alternative, as Gurahl mentioned, which doesn't involve crateage? I feel there must be but I know little on the matter.

I'm not a vegetarian on moral grounds, as such, I simply don't enjoy the taste or texture of meat, that may be because of a psychosomatic response due to watching Charlotte's Web or something as a nipper but I've not really taken the time to think in depth about it. I stopped eating meat when I was about twelve or thirteen.

However, I continued eating fish because my at the time my parents thought I'd die if I didn't. I still eat fish now, which probably makes me quite the hypocrite ... but meh.

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Originally Posted by manker

is there not a widely available 'organic' or 'free range' alternative, as Gurahl mentioned, which doesn't involve crateage?

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There is but these products are generally prohibitively expensive. So people tend to forget the way the calves, if they are informed at all.

I don't eat veal but that probably had more to do with availability than morals.

I am a carnivore through and through but wherever possible i only eat meat that i can be assured was raised and slaughtered humanely. I say "wherever possible" as one can't always be sure and has to take the word of the supplier.

Vegetable though can go screw themselves

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Originally Posted by Vid

Vegetable though can go screw themselves

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Is that supposed to be vegetarians or vegetables. Either way you're upsetting a minority group :(

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Originally Posted by manker

Is that supposed to be vegetarians or vegetables. Either way you're upsetting a minority group :(

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just missing an "s" :ermm: ..if vegetables were supposed to be eaten they would be made out of meat ;)

Either way i can outrun any vegetable, and just how hard could someone hit that lives on ricecakes? :lol:


Edit: missed the "s" again...time to get new batteries for this keyboard....

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Originally Posted by vidcc

just missing an "s" :ermm: ..if vegetables were supposed to be eaten they would be made out of meat ;)

Either way i can outrun any vegetable, and just how hard could someone hit that lives on ricecakes? :lol:

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Ok I'll let you off. If you'd been having a pop at the venerable vegetarians among us, I'd have ... posted all in caps, or something :D

mmmm... The only way I know of eating healthy and ethically is to eat vegetarians! :01:

Beware vegans! I'm coming to get you!



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Originally Posted by manker

Ok I'll let you off. If you'd been having a pop at the venerable vegetarians among us, I'd have ... posted all in caps, or something :D

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so all you are saying is.............Give chich a chance :unsure:

Nope :) not because it's "unethical", but because I find the taste to be somewhat "offending" if you will (tastes like crap).

Nope...No way, No how
Vegeterian HARD

No never ever

meat is meat to me ~shrug~

http://sp24-7.lambtron.com/grabs/605/veal12.jpg

I eat baby cows. :eat: