isn't it about time you turn off guest viewing for a bit
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isn't it about time you turn off guest viewing for a bit
whats the problem?
Ya who cares ,can't get the shoppers with out the window shopping I guess. But yes it is a little annoying.
its almost always 2to1 and most of the time more like 3to1 guest to members
isn't there a way to make it
"We got 3 members and 156 quests staring at teh board"
or somesuch?
edit: yes it shows:
Currently Active Users: 128 (26 members and 102 guests) atm.
Didnt bother look the frontpage...
:P
Currently Active Users: 154 (22 members and 132 guests)
its bullshit if you ask me, take off guest viewing for a week and see how many people sign up, you can always go back...
Take off guests viewing and we won't have any people to become members. The guests are all from google traffic. If guests can't view the pages neither can google bots. Meaning no more pages indexed in google.
exactly as rookie said.
If guests can't view threads then neither can search engine spiders...there goes all hope of the site getting busy again. :pinch:
its not like google is going to forget all the indexed pages overnight <_<
edit:
Currently Active Users: 135 (24 members and 111 guests)
no, but it would eventually...Quote:
Originally Posted by muchspl3
honestly, what good would come from hiding pages from guests and google?
maybe more people would sign up
who knows, nothing to loose if you only try it for a few days or a week
edit:
Currently Active Users: 100 (14 members and 86 guests)
Why dont you limit how much guest can view?
Make it so that they can only see the lounge, polls, funny stuff and the drawing room, and board related stuff and limit "worlds"
Why don't we pay more attention to the exiting members ? I miss the posts from some of the senior members. Were not a pay for view forum , we 're a filesharing forum ! I have noticed a lot of new members contibution , some very smart people . Its fun to read this forum again. I love the work the mods have done to the front page with the news section . Its baby steps were taking ,change can be good . But just my opnion.
None so it will stay as is...Quote:
Originally Posted by rossco
Does the forum now charge for new membership :unsure:
Can't think of any other reason to make people join. It should be the quality of the forum that gets you to join.
It bothers me when I am trying to solve a problem and google for an answer only to find I have to join the forum before finding out if the people can actually help.
If I know the forum is useful (by seeing a solution that works) then I join so I can interact in the discussion.
TD
Thanks for that definitive word. Mr newbie mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealitY
Muchspl has a valid point, what would be the harm in turning guest viewing off occaionally. Perhaps one day a week would be good.
It might increase sign-ups on that day and on the others Google can index to it's heart's content. If it doesn't work, then we've lost nothing.
I don't want to permanently hide the forum from guests and Google but a compromise could yield benefits yet has no drawbacks.
k
Why the forums should be hidden from quests?
So they'd register?
I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Afronaut
I think Muchspl may have a slightly different agenda but my own is simply to encourage more people to join.
That's not very nice Mr. MankerQuote:
Originally Posted by manker
from the x hundred guests daily ~30/40 a day register
No we don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by {I}{K}{E}
I've just stated to the contrary.
Or are you trying to say that member's opinions don't count.
I just seen your edit.Quote:
Originally Posted by IKE
That's great but if closing the forum to guests for one day per week pushed that number up to fifty for one day, then it's worth it. If it stays the same or makes less people sign up. Then stop doing it.
I don't see how the forum can lose.
The team members (the once who i've talked with about this) thinks its better how it is now.
We won't change it because a couple of members think its better. :huh:
If we close everything we wont get new signups.
closed forum -> no google hits.
99% of all guests find us by using google
Those same members will still find us through Google, like the guy said - Google doesn't forget indexed links overnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by {I}{K}{E}
FFS, are you even reading what I've written? You'll be stopping guests seeing some things for a short space of time. Not completely closing it down.
What you've written is incorrect in the context of what I'm proposing.
Did you check the time of that post of mine?Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
It wasnt a reply to that post. it was a reply for post #20
Not with you, there. Another of my posts is above that and you do seem to be referring to what I wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by {I}{K}{E}
Doesn't matter though. You can reply at your leisure or completely ignore what I'm writing. Up to you.
I think it's won't improve the forum if we close it for guests once a week :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
The people who then sign up won't start posting. Most of them will just sign up to read stuff. So there wont be any difference, we would only get more 'inactive' members. :huh:
Why do people want to get rid of guests?
Whats the point of them signing up if they dont post? And they cant post unless they sign up...
imho.. they might as well stay guests if they have no intention of posting and dont wish to see those parts of the board that are closed to guests.
Without guests we may go back to the position we had last year where the board was "On the Market" etc.. at least we get traffic, and they may hit a link for the revenue :P
I also think we're more likely to get active members, if they can see places like the lounge and the Drawing Room...
We've had more than one active member because they got interested in something posted in these places and decided they wanted to contribute... or saw that we weren't just interested in filesharing, but liked a laugh too.
Cant see what the debates about, tbh... but my thoughts are its ok as it is atm ;)
At least you're willing to accept the possibility that more people will sign up if it's closed for a short while once a week, nice one :DQuote:
Originally Posted by {I}{K}{E}
I don't know. It seems to me that those extra members are more likely to post when they join that if they didn't join, actually, that's a given 'cos guests can't post.
Even if it only yields two or three more participating members each month, then I think it's worth it. It can't be of any detriment to the forum, which is the main thing.
However, I'm not about to sulk if this idea isn't taken up. All I ask is for well meaning member's suggestions, like this one, to be sensibly entertained and considered.
You can't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rat Faced
I'm saying that by closing the forum to guests for a short period of time may slightly increase sign ups.
Then you get the best of both worlds. The guests still see the forum and sign ups increase.
Yeah...
But the question i'm asking is:
Why do you want more inactive members?
They only post if they're interested in something; and cant post unless they become a member..
I'd rather keep them as guests if they aint gonna post.
It wasnt so long ago that the members were asking for a cleanout of non posting members :blink:
Guests rule, Members drool ;)
ain't nothing that pisses me off more then "having to sign up" places, i almost quit visiting here when you got rid of the guest forum and i had to join.
the only way for p2p to win is to educate n00bs on the ins and outs of file sharing, guest or not. there is strength in numbers.
plus the fact that guest might be more inclined to click an ad here then the members that don't even see them because of repetition of seeing them.
my 2½¢
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Originally Posted by Rat Faced
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Originally Posted by manker
See.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vargas
We wouldn't have gotten Vargas to join if he could have lurked forever. A few regular guests may load up FST on the day that it's not viewable to guests and suddenly decide to join and post, they could turn out to be just as valuable a contributor as Vargas, who knows.
M'lud. Consider the case at rest.
actually i was a regular "guest" poster before i joined, i almost left when guests couldn't post anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Damnit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vargas
Same principle, tho' :D
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Originally Posted by manker
So is euthanasia and putting a dog down when its in pain though...
Same principles dont mean squat :P
If they don't mean squat, then they must mean something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rat Faced
Astutely observed, RF.
Ah.. the problems with semantics when talking to you or JP... :rolleyes:
I still cant see your argument though :P
I'd rather one active member signed up than 100 non active.
I believe the number of potential people that will just not look is greater than the number that will sign up and start frantically posting.
The ones that will be active will register if they can see whats there, and may not even hang around if they have to register to look.
They may also remember the name and not bother looking the next time they google their question, in the mistaken belief that they have to register for that site.
And you know what i mean... im too bloody tired to try and tidy the english up :P
My main reason for joining:
if the only thing i wanted was to chat with regular members, and make fun of n00bs, i would have been gone long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vargas
Tch, you highlight semantics when it was you that brought dead dogs to the table. V. poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rat Faced
Anyhow, you certainly have a point. It could be that the number of sign-ups will decrease on the days that the forum is closed to guests.
If this is the case, of course, I will renounce this plan as a bad one and presumably the forum will revert to how it is now.
We'll never actually know until we try, tho'. It might just be a good idea :)