Why is Mary a paedophile?

For my 5000th post

I feel like explaining the roots now, without any motive prompting it as a requirement. Rather, the origin story stayed conveniently irrelevant, but there must surely be some curiosities that have sparsely been sparked.

If I analyze it, it's really just a free speech issue. If one could freely discuss one of the most universally detested acts, feigning a truth and discussion of it from that perspective without castigation (or its newly coined sexual variant, castragation), it gives a broader feedback for the qualitative litmus test of free speech.

I have never been on a board with as much untethered range to speak truths and falsities, whether they're creative or mundane, witty, dumbfounding or idiotic, as I have here on FST. I just wanted to remind myself of that, as I've been censored numerous times all around the internets. There are countries and ISPs that can set their own policies for controlling their people, but at the end of each tube of the internet there is a micromanaged site who get to arbitrarily set their own standards and policies regarding censorship.

I went on Match dot com or Chemistry (one of those or similar sites) about 4-8 years ago (I seriously cannot remember when it was). The intention was for both me and my wife to create profiles and see if they tried to match us up (just a little curious experiment). We were never able to test it, as my profile had been immediately removed because I used "fuck" in some adjective emphatic context. I was sent an email detailing the violation of the TOS, and demanded that I write a lengthy apologetic letter explaining why I would ever defy their wishes, and additionally would have to convince them that I was genuinely remorseful over my actions if I wanted them to reactivate it. I sent them a letter alright, but I don't think I kept it since I've been through a couple hard drives since then. I do recall this much, I used some matter of phrasing in this letter that I joined their site in order to meet up with the children of the site creators/operators so that I could fuck them, and that my choice of diction was the least of their worries.

So that's it, that's why you all have come to know me as one who partakes in carnal pleasures with young supple bodies. I have developed a relationship with the subject that not only helps me examine the levity of the readers and site ops, but can be genuinely humorous if you're skilled with it. This also goes for rape, murder, etc.

Nice save. Why, though? Who do you think is following you?

One wonders why you feel any need to qualify this.

Clearly, judging on past form, any sniff of proved paedophilia has been handed to the authorities or banned forthwith.

Edgy humour is a different matter. I agree. Abstract humour, placed in context is funny no matter what. However, why do you feel the need to make a post in the cemetery of this board to legitimise it? I applaud your breaching of boundaries.

Joke about stuff all you like, but joke about it where somebody actually gives a fuck.

No explanation necessary, you fucking deviant.

my name is manker mankerson and I make jokes about spastics even though I have nothing against them really, I even made friends with one once on holiday when I was about ten.


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You guys seem to be missing that this isn't about pedophilia at all, it's about free speech. I was inspired to post about it while pondering upon oppression around the world, and around all the microcosmic societies on the net. I thought sexy little school girls just might spice it up.

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You guys seem to be missing that this isn't about pedophilia at all, it's about free speech. I was inspired to post about it while pondering upon oppression around the world, and around all the microcosmic societies on the net. I thought sexy little school girls just might spice it up.

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When I first read your little story I was stoned out of my tree, so sentient comment wasn't really on the agenda. The one thing that struck me, and has stayed with me while I considered your story was great concept, rather bizarre vehicle for your stance. What I mean by this is is, yes I get it, I clearly understand that your stance is about free speech and you revel in the birdbath that is the FST lounge because everyone can say what they want (as long as it is sane), but your vehicle to carry your protest against the censorship you rail at, is rather a twisted one.

Yes it is confrontational, yes you like getting in peoples faces, and so paedophilia as a vehicle for free speech was bound to get a reaction, but you must remember, putting the levity aside, that it is a subject which causes considerable human suffering to a very vulnerable part of society. I say this because as a father myself, there have been times when the tone has made me cringe slightly.

I know it is in jest, I understand the black humor and sometimes too it made me laugh, but there is still the core, the truth that it is a subject that continues to cause needless suffering, and I cannot completely divorce the part of me that is the father of a young daughter, from the internet persona that is Artemis.

This is in no way meant as any form of approbation, it is more an explanation of my personal feelings towards your choice of weapon to fight the censors who inhabit so called free speech forums and attempt to force their moral code upon others. I see the censorship myself, I have more than a few 'concerned' pm's and the banhammer dropped for inappropriate behavior, but although I have usually suggested they have sex with a variety of threshing implements, I never felt the urge to push the boundaries with any kind of a sexual deviancy.

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When I first read your little story I was stoned out of my tree, so sentient comment wasn't really on the agenda. The one thing that struck me, and has stayed with me while I considered your story was great concept, rather bizarre vehicle for your stance. What I mean by this is is, yes I get it, I clearly understand that your stance is about free speech and you revel in the birdbath that is the FST lounge because everyone can say what they want (as long as it is sane), but your vehicle to carry your protest against the censorship you rail at, is rather a twisted one.

Yes it is confrontational, yes you like getting in peoples faces, and so paedophilia as a vehicle for free speech was bound to get a reaction, but you must remember, putting the levity aside, that it is a subject which causes considerable human suffering to a very vulnerable part of society. I say this because as a father myself, there have been times when the tone has made me cringe slightly.

I know it is in jest, I understand the black humor and sometimes too it made me laugh, but there is still the core, the truth that it is a subject that continues to cause needless suffering, and I cannot completely divorce the part of me that is the father of a young daughter, from the internet persona that is Artemis.

This is in no way meant as any form of approbation, it is more an explanation of my personal feelings towards your choice of weapon to fight the censors who inhabit so called free speech forums and attempt to force their moral code upon others. I see the censorship myself, I have more than a few 'concerned' pm's and the banhammer dropped for inappropriate behavior, but although I have usually suggested they have sex with a variety of threshing implements, I never felt the urge to push the boundaries with any kind of a sexual deviancy.

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That's just the thing Art, nobody has ever exhibited a majorly negative reaction on here (in terms of being offended), including you. It's supposed to deliver a cringe or a laugh, but never a report and subsequent censorship. I think the expectation for levity prevents any of us from expressing our true prejudices, so I think I am kind of doing this out of consideration for all to air their grievances or criticisms (which is why I must have put it in the drawering room). I think I may have put it into overdrive a few times and felt it just needed some brake shoe friction.

There is a topic I was going to bring up once in its own thread, one that puzzles me, but given my tendency to speak so lightly about cross-generational boot knocking, I have prevented myself to do so without introducing some confusion (i.e. do I treat it as a joke or seriously?). That particular subject was about teachers fucking their elementary school students (for male teachers it happens in later grades like high school, the female teacher take the bolder step to pick them out even younger), it's like some epidemic in Florida and really boggles my mind. There was a week when I heard 3 stories about it, and I sat in the car thinking WTF?! I wanted to start an FST thread about it, but backed down in response to my previously described reasoning.

Not just that, there's also rape, racism, and rapist racism, aka rapicism. There are a plethora of shticks to choose from, I tried to retire the pedo thing once but found too many opportunities to play that card after the proclamation. I'm not really a fan of fruit, so if I'm going to have any at all, it has to be low-hanging.

When I saw you were the latest poster, Alien, I opened the thread expecting some moronic 1-word response.

I overestimated your intelligence.

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When I saw you were the latest poster, Alien, I opened the thread expecting some moronic 1-word response.

I overestimated your intelligence.

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You made me click "view post" as he is still the only member on here that I keep on ignore. He seems to be even more non-comprehending and nonfunctional than either zig or jdye. Messing up the quote is the only reason it let him make the post.

Edit: reported his post, letting it be known for transparency's sake.

You do realize the, "I'm a pedophile because I champion free speech" won't stand up in court. :noes:

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You do realize the, "I'm a pedophile because I champion free speech" won't stand up in court. :noes:

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Can't hurt to try.

Edit: Actually it could, I could destroy free speech for everyone else via guilt by association.

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Edit: Actually it could, I could destroy free speech for everyone else via guilt by association.

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Most of us don't hang out in America so the guilt by association thingy wouldn't work well on the extradition papers, they're having enough fun getting a hold of Kim Dotcom.

Speaking of a school bus full of children...

I keep on coming back to this thread and now that I am relaxed/pissed I don't feel so bad that I end threads so badly because until this post, you fucking killed this one stone dead macky, which is a shame and hopefully I will rudely restart this one / or not. :naughty:

I think each of us feel a little pride in our ability to kill threads, but just pretend to complain. I think the thread authors should usually be the ones killing their threads, especially if they were out to make a point. However, my break was a little weak on this one. Maybe a post was removed and with it a context, but I just don't get it, post #15 that is.

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I think each of us feel a little pride in our ability to kill threads, but just pretend to complain. I think the thread authors should usually be the ones killing their threads, especially if they were out to make a point. However, my break was a little weak on this one. Maybe a post was removed and with it a context, but I just don't get it, post #15 that is.

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Well now that I am left with coffee and and bad visual accuity to deal with after last night, my own post seems somewhat vapid as a segue, but while we are on the subject (which we aren't) 'the land of the free' is rapidly becoming the land of the electronically monitored.

Land of the Free is many things:

A showy display of American irony
Propaganda for achieving selfish goals
Hypocrisy legislation
Outdated sentiment

It is not, however, a viable descriptor.

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Land of the Free is many things:

A showy display of American irony
Propaganda for achieving selfish goals
Hypocrisy legislation
Outdated sentiment

It is not, however, a viable descriptor.

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I find in many ways the most insidious legislation, the long in the offing, data recorders in new motor vehicles. The reason why I find this so insidious is that the legislation is touting 'Event Data Recorders' when features include GPS location with logging (i.e. a log of route information ) and the ability to disable the vehicles operation, thus bringing about the thin end of the wedge where you need permission before you can drive your own vehicle. Also how the 'Event Data' information is to be used and by what specific agencies is not laid out, the actual use of the data by the government is quite amorphous.

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I find in many ways the most insidious legislation, the long in the offing, data recorders in new motor vehicles. The reason why I find this so insidious is that the legislation is touting 'Event Data Recorders' when features include GPS location with logging (i.e. a log of route information ) and the ability to disable the vehicles operation, thus bringing about the thin end of the wedge where you need permission before you can drive your own vehicle. Also how the 'Event Data' information is to be used and by what specific agencies is not laid out, the actual use of the data by the government is quite amorphous.

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If passed (don't know what stage it's at), I'm sure there will be a number of workarounds and disabling modifications.

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I find in many ways the most insidious legislation, the long in the offing, data recorders in new motor vehicles. The reason why I find this so insidious is that the legislation is touting 'Event Data Recorders' when features include GPS location with logging (i.e. a log of route information ) and the ability to disable the vehicles operation, thus bringing about the thin end of the wedge where you need permission before you can drive your own vehicle. Also how the 'Event Data' information is to be used and by what specific agencies is not laid out, the actual use of the data by the government is quite amorphous.

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If passed (don't know what stage it's at), I'm sure there will be a number of workarounds and disabling modifications.

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Senate Bill 1813 also known as MAP-21 has been passed and is set to be rubber stamped by the lower house with bi-partisan agreement between the Republicans and Democrats on the need for E.D.R. or Event Data Recording in vehicles. The bill proposes that all new vehicles rolling off the assembly line as of 2015 will be fitted with E.D.R. devices so I would say they are proceeding with an almost unholy haste and lack of public explanation or consultation about 'who' has access to your information, and who exactly you will need to get permission from before you can drive your car. It's a brave new world.

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If passed (don't know what stage it's at), I'm sure there will be a number of workarounds and disabling modifications.

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Senate Bill 1813 also known as MAP-21 has been passed and is set to be rubber stamped by the lower house with bi-partisan agreement between the Republicans and Democrats on the need for E.D.R. or Event Data Recording in vehicles. The bill proposes that all new vehicles rolling off the assembly line as of 2015 will be fitted with E.D.R. devices so I would say they are proceeding with an almost unholy haste and lack of public explanation or consultation about 'who' has access to your information, and who exactly you will need to get permission from before you can drive your car. It's a brave new world.

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I'd say they've been doing that with every piece of legislation that is sensitive for its breach on free speech and/or privacy.

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Senate Bill 1813 also known as MAP-21 has been passed and is set to be rubber stamped by the lower house with bi-partisan agreement between the Republicans and Democrats on the need for E.D.R. or Event Data Recording in vehicles. The bill proposes that all new vehicles rolling off the assembly line as of 2015 will be fitted with E.D.R. devices so I would say they are proceeding with an almost unholy haste and lack of public explanation or consultation about 'who' has access to your information, and who exactly you will need to get permission from before you can drive your car. It's a brave new world.

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I'd say they've been doing that with every piece of legislation that is sensitive for its breach on free speech and/or privacy.

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The Bill was first mooted in 2006 and has been in it's present form since 2008 and was something I had been following with interest as various arguments for more draconian provisions to be added such as auto-disable by V.I.N. code. The argument behind this (at first) being that evil-doers cars could be disabled while in commission of a crime. Over time this has gradually pervasively transmuted into an electronic clamping system where if government agencies (fill in the blanks they are currently unlisted ) have an interest then your car can be disabled. In theory this could be for back taxes, fines, parking /speeding violations, overdue library books, and it has not been defined whether this is solely at a federal, or a state, county, or even local level.
The hilarious thing about this uber paranoid nazi piece of legislation though, right at the crux of the matter is, the people that the W.A.S.P's are really afraid of don't buy new cars.

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The hilarious thing about this uber paranoid nazi piece of legislation though, right at the crux of the matter is, the people that the W.A.S.P's are really afraid of don't buy new cars.

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Sure, but they do steal them.

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The hilarious thing about this uber paranoid nazi piece of legislation though, right at the crux of the matter is, the people that the W.A.S.P's are really afraid of don't buy new cars.

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Sure, but they do steal them.

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If they can circumvent the current bevy of laser encoded keys / keyless entry systems then another box is probably only going to add a few extra seconds to the work schedule, and most manufacturers are going to be fairly lacksadaisackal in their implementation of the devices at least at first, so that isn't really a surprise.

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Sure, but they do steal them.

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If they can circumvent the current bevy of laser encoded keys / keyless entry systems then another box is probably only going to add a few extra seconds to the work schedule, and most manufacturers are going to be fairly lacksadaisackal in their implementation of the devices at least at first, so that isn't really a surprise.

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I had a different image in mind. They steal the keys too, plus the wallet.

My prediction: this will be stalled, not by civil rights activists, but by auto manufacturers concerned that these devices will hurt new car sales.

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My prediction: this will be stalled, not by civil rights activists, but by auto manufacturers concerned that these devices will hurt new car sales.

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As I said possibly the most pervasive provision of the bill is ability to disable a vehicle by V.I.N. Tag this in effect gives law enforcement the ability to disable your vehicle for whatever infractions they deem fit whether they be related to the vehicle or not it is still a major way to take punitive action against you as a person.The car manufacturers can take the junior staffers on as many junkets as they want, but this bit of legislation has some serious teeth behind it and no amount of lobbying and trips to Costa Rica and hookers are going to derail it any time soon, the senate and congress are both very firmly on the same page on this one goose stepping it all the way into a final reading before the Reichsfuhrer Congress. Then of course there is the GPS logging GPS location can of worms where logs of where your vehicle has been will be kept as well as it being to be pinged by GPS locator the same as your cellphone can be currently, it's a really creepy piece of legislation overall.

I really hate it when the rambling, conspiratorial nuts are right. :(

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I really hate it when the rambling, conspiratorial nuts are right. :(

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For me, I've been appalled from afar, I don't live anywhere near the U.S., the closest thing is American Samoa and they REALLY need our communications cable so we are on the upper there, but we have this right wing nutjob Prime Minister, whose little idiot mind is going think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread and fall over himself in the indecent haste to have some form of the same device set up here 'for our protection'. You see once a technology like this is introduced by the Reichsmarschall Government in your country like minded right wing governments around the world are going to jump on the band wagon to have this extra way to spy on their citizens, and be abled to enforce fine/tax evasion and other forms of misdemeanour civil infractions, they will be able to track your movements over months for whatever reason. So I am not enthused because of the trickle down effect.

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So I am not enthused because of the trickle down effect.

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Personally, I find thoughts of this appalling on both fronts. Not only does the US (self-proclaimed source of democracy, ntl) start a lot of this sort of shit, but also ties the hands politically of those "evil" countries who oppose its ways- including those (including western) who have very legitimate democratic reasons to oppose them.

Certainly, the car manufacturers would see a "reduction in per unit cost" if this law was international. :ermm: