The think I find most bizarre out of this is that nobody is coming out and saying how happy they are that they supported him. At least no one has pulled off the white sheets yet...
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The think I find most bizarre out of this is that nobody is coming out and saying how happy they are that they supported him. At least no one has pulled off the white sheets yet...
Lots of people are probably saying it. It's just that the left wing media refuses to play it.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Sad but true fact. If everything was the same about this election except that Hillary was a man, she/he would have won.
Damien?Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Is Trump even in control of his actions :fear:
Casual racism and mild xenophobia are considered acceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
I can think of no other reason.
I forgot to mention a 70's level of sexismQuote:
Originally Posted by Gribley
True story: random play list on my car stereo just now during lunch break:
Robbie Williams - She's The One
Simon & Garfunkel - America
Bruce Springsteen - Promised Land
Dire Straits - The Man's Too Strong
24 hours ago that would have been prophetic.
How could your car stereo predicting you had ghey taste in music be prophetic.
If everything on his wireless is ghey he's kind of forcing it's hand.
The deathmongers didn't not trick the Nebraskans with a double negative.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Nebraska voted to reinstate the death penalty because the Universe has to keep things in balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmacky
That was a concern during the Obama presidency as well. Obama's JD trended toward passing Bush's JD on crackdowns of growing operations, and they may have exceeded it (it's been a while since I last checked in on that). However, with more states providing legal measures, it becomes a larger burden on resources for the justice department, especially since one of those states is now California. Undertaking that initiative can't be done with as little scrutiny as under Bush and Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caballero
Finally, as a last takeaway, I cover the third party candidates. I was looking through the breakdowns in some of the states. If votes hadn't been thrown away to Johnson or Stein, neither of whom were ever viable candidates, most of those people would have voted for Clinton and the election would have turned toward her in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, which would have gotten Clinton the electoral college votes she needed.
I'm making two major assumptions there. I think they're both reasonable assumptions though. As polarizing a figure as Trump has been, you were either definitely going to vote for him or someone else. The other assumption is that they still would have voted knowing they would be casting one for Clinton, and I think that's reasonable because they likely made the trip to their polling place to make conscientious votes on other positions and issues.
I've expelled most of my ire. I think I'm pretty much done with the topic because my disappointment is kind of overwhelming, and I need step away from it. I'd also just be preaching to the choir here.
Meaning, I'm going to just pretend for a little while that this never fucking happened and stay home and play video games. I don't want to go out and get into random conversations with people having to explain to them how this shit just happened like I'm the ambassador of stupid fucking round eyes.
In my stats hunt yesterday, I found it remarkable that there were almost four times the amount of votes cast for minor candidates as last time out. Over six times as many as the time before that.
I imagine that by now much has been made of that, but I reckon that influx of protest votes is more evenly attributed to the distaste of both main candidates than one might initially think.
He'd have won anyway, certainly in Florida, which was key as always.
I was either going to comment upon this or do something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by mary
Oh, it was a reference to a burd having a period. A 69 year old burd. What a hoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaulI forgot to mention a 70's level of sexismQuote:
Originally Posted by Gribley
I thought it may have been a reference to America no longer providing military protection to Japan, since Trump has referenced such a thing, that I was too uninformed to properly understand.
One lives and one learns.
This quote, if true, is incredible.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34903577Quote:
20:Tokyo and Seoul should build up nuclear arsenals. He has said Japan and South Korea should not rely on the US so much and would benefit from having their own weapons. Nuclear war between Japan and North Korea may be "terrible" but it would be "pretty quick".
EDIT: Hmmm, yesterday it was "30 things Trump believes", now it's only 24. What's going on??
I wonder which ones were taken out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
I remember him saying that, it's a real quote. I pondered at the time how this idiot thought statements like that were going to get him votes.
:pinch:
As with a lot on that list, you just have to hope that it was just him spit-balling. That real politicians will block this from becoming an actual policy.
He's said a lot of things should happen. The language used gives an out so many of these statements will just hang there in the background and not come into force - like with the wall and deporting all muslims, for example. Probably.
Apparently this wall he is going to build is not a real wall but a metaphorical wall. :lol:
I think the wall may be his equivalent of the £350m Brexit bus...
That def plays a role. I'd dare to say that people's like/dislike of primary candidates is the most important factor in choosing a candidate. Few would admit it however. And it's impossible to ignore that the high disapproval ratings played a part in sending votes beyond the main two candidates. Another reason may be that despite the rhetoric surrounding Clintrump and the overwhelming amount of polarization they created, they weren't really much different on paper. When you remove the bits that a lot of people focused on (Clinton: woman, first woman president, blah blah) (Trump: controversial immigration, loudmouth, celebrity, orange, blah blah) and just looked at policy, they were almost the same candidate, focused on more war and more protectionist policies. Again I think that just goes to show that it was never about policy with most people, it was about him and her. People don't vote for some thing, they vote against someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
To really debate all this Crap!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizThat def plays a role. I'd dare to say that people's like/dislike of primary candidates is the most important factor in choosing a candidate. Few would admit it however. And it's impossible to ignore that the high disapproval ratings played a part in sending votes beyond the main two candidates. Another reason may be that despite the rhetoric surrounding Clintrump and the overwhelming amount of polarization they created, they weren't really much different on paper. When you remove the bits that a lot of people focused on (Clinton: woman, first woman president, blah blah) (Trump: controversial immigration, loudmouth, celebrity, orange, blah blah) and just looked at policy, they were almost the same candidate, focused on more war and more protectionist policies. Again I think that just goes to show that it was never about policy with most people, it was about him and her. People don't vote for some thing, they vote against someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Americans had 2 main nominees to choose from Clinton or Trump!!
Saying you can't choose, or putting someone else's name on your ballad, you should have had enough common sense that you wanted Trump, if not, you are pretty stupid!!
The media and the signs should have told you that the people voting for Trump were diehard and radical for him, so again who every voted for anyone else other than Clinton or Trump...
Welcome your new President elect Trump...
200 Million registered to vote.. Over 100 Million really voted, what happened to the all the people that didn't vote??
I've just gotten home after a few days 'oop north with a broken phone, I trust nothing devastating has happened since Tuesday morning? :eyebrows:
And there you have it folks^^^ :pinch:Quote:
Originally Posted by shainaTo really debate all this Crap!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
Americans had 2 main nominees to choose from Clinton or Trump!!
Saying you can't choose, or putting someone else's name on your ballad, you should have had enough common sense that you wanted Trump, if not, you are pretty stupid!!
The media and the signs should have told you that the people voting for Trump were diehard and radical for him, so again who every voted for anyone else other than Clinton or Trump...
Welcome your new President elect Trump...
200 Million registered to vote.. Over 100 Million really voted, what happened to the all the people that didn't vote??
To my point exactly: People don't vote for some thing, they vote against someone.
Now you have Trump:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
Now i just watched Bernie Sanders agreeing with Trump on some issues(CNN interview with Wolf Blitzer), did he really have enough influence to push his socialist campaign to vote for Clinton, not a bloody chance!!..
If Bernie Sanders, won the Democratic Election, even with his ridiculous (i should say not all) views to make changes in the US, and there is no doubt in my mind that Trump would have had no chance against Sanders, even with a dirty campaign between them...
Watching Fox News Skiz, Trump is the new savior for the US, go on some Web sites, Trump is the new savior, go to the mass Media and News stations, everyone is worried:fear:.
I think before jumping any guns (pardon the pun LOL!!), you will just have to wait and see how drastic he really is or can be on the rhetoric of the campaign..
And really where all the money or replacement ideas he has to fix so called problems, he claims the American people have been loosing there jobs and there is total chaos in the Country so let him fix it. To me it will be the same shit different day, and that is how you get elected..
Pretty much exactly what you are saying
Congrats to Trump being the next president of the superpower USA, and i should add welcoming Russia being your new friend..
Just a Little Note Skiz..
No one here thought that Trudeau here had a chance to be our prime minister of Canada but he is, and other than hearing the Fuck up of Refugees, or occasionally hearing of legalizing Mary Jane (not really much considering that is what got him the votes), and maybe he had a few other Platform changes he said he was going to do, nothing has really change in my province (Ontario), If you think some changes have affected you Idol, you can pipe in, but i have seen none..
And to end... I still can't figure out why between Wiki leaks and the FBI really going after the Democratic party?? Republicans in a whole are not angels :angel_not
Even not asking who you voted for or if you did vote Skiz, if you didn't vote on the ballot for Clinton, i know you are intelligent enough you knew your next president, and that goes for Meg as well...
Edit... Taking a second look at your quote Skiz "People don't vote for some thing, they vote against someone"
You saying that makes me think you have no faith in either platform or the way Trump or Clinton wants your country to go..
If you make a list of both sides and there policies not the crap back and forth, they did have points and platforms, and really that was your choice on what you liked, saying neither one had some good points to lead the country would be inaccurate. It was not the non educated people that had a weak turnout in voting, for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, so excuses don't work in this instance..
I hope you are comfortable with the Trump platform and you have read and understand what he wants to do with the Country moving forward when he is running the White-house:)
They've fucked up our Toblerone bars, mate. All this Trump stuff is a diversionary tactic to steer us away from the real issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Mulder
... and yes, I stole that from Ricky Gervais.
Yeah man.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizThat def plays a role. I'd dare to say that people's like/dislike of primary candidates is the most important factor in choosing a candidate. Few would admit it however. And it's impossible to ignore that the high disapproval ratings played a part in sending votes beyond the main two candidates. Another reason may be that despite the rhetoric surrounding Clintrump and the overwhelming amount of polarization they created, they weren't really much different on paper. When you remove the bits that a lot of people focused on (Clinton: woman, first woman president, blah blah) (Trump: controversial immigration, loudmouth, celebrity, orange, blah blah) and just looked at policy, they were almost the same candidate, focused on more war and more protectionist policies. Again I think that just goes to show that it was never about policy with most people, it was about him and her. People don't vote for some thing, they vote against someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
My point was that the votes for the minor candidates weren't just because democrat voters didn't like Hilary and were still sulking about Bernie, it was also because repubs didn't like Trump.
That the big increase of this type of vote is pretty evenly split between the two factors, in my view, and that in essence the sharp increase didn't matter too much re. the outcome.
I'd be surprised if it directly caused any state to go red instead of blue or vice versa.
Or it could be that the vast majority of young people who are liberal and whose votes could have tipped the election the other way were confused and thought that posting anti-Trump messages on social media was the same as voting.
:yup::yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
And they don't have a problem protesting on the streets, and maybe causing some trouble to boot:idunno:
DON"T BOO!! VOTE!!
ya right!!
But you could say that at a lot of Bernie Sanders rallies, quite a few were not old enough to vote either....
Clinton won the popular vote. The electoral college is supposed to keep fuckhead candidates from gaining office. That didn't work so well, which says that is a useless, bullshit step.
Got it. And I tend to agree. The vast majority of the third (etc) party vote went to Gary Johnson which would have largely been taking votes from Trump. Jill Stein's few thousand votes would have gone to Clinton but not enough to make any difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerYeah man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
My point was that the votes for the minor candidates weren't just because democrat voters didn't like Hilary and were still sulking about Bernie, it was also because repubs didn't like Trump.
That the big increase of this type of vote is pretty evenly split between the two factors, in my view, and that in essence the sharp increase didn't matter too much re. the outcome.
I'd be surprised if it directly caused any state to go red instead of blue or vice versa.
They're protesting that Trump is going to destroy America while they riot and destroy as much as possible. :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina:yup::yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
And they don't have a problem protesting on the streets, and maybe causing some trouble to boot:idunno:
DON"T BOO!! VOTE!!
ya right!!
But you could say that at a lot of Bernie Sanders rallies, quite a few were not old enough to vote either....
You guys get a lot of these irony riots.
'It's terrible, the police are killing black folk -- LET'S KILL THE POLICE'
'It's awful, Trump's gonna destroy America -- LET'S DESTROY IT FIRST'
'It's disastrous, Katrina's ruined all the stores' perishable goods - LET'S STEAL THE NON-PERISHABLES'
That last one is a stretch but w/e it's pure Simpsons, I imagine there's some footage of Moe Szyslak inciting the mob with similar statements.
You folks will be glad to know that after last week's terrible decision to stay in to watch the rugby, I'm off out today to a pub as nature intended.
It'll be weird as none of my mates care at all about politics. Here is some gay minute thing or whatever they're called:
manker: Yeah I'm out, it'll be good to not talk about the election.
notmanker: Was I supposed to vote? My missus didn't so I didn't think I had to
manker: No, dewd. The USA election, Trump won it.
notmanker: ...
notmanker: Get a fucking life will you, that's all they're on about on facebook as well. Who gives a shit.
notmanker: And if you bring Carling for the train again you'll be wearing it, gaylord.
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Carling. How could ewe.
I purpose that we attack the bored with a broken jar of comas in protestant at all the bad grammer.
Stayed in to watch the rugby....not a terrible decision but disappointed to lose by a point to the Aussies. Cracking game though.
I believe there is a law that the stralians must beat the scotch in any marginal game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
JP's been doing that for years, mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
He's started abusing the humble apostrophe now, too, but I didn't like to mention it. You know how he gets.
Also, what's everyone got against Carling all of a sudden. I brought a jug of it back from the bar and the looks I got, you'd think I'd shit on their nan.
I blame those swanky faux spit-n-sawdust micro brewery pubs that charge you £5 for a pint of something that's been fermented in an alimentary canal.
Beer should taste like beer, you twats. Unless it's Budweiser, which is also quite nice but doesn't taste much like beer.
Yeah, those craft beers are all shite, as far as I've tried. Five squids for a small bottle around my ways :eyebrows:
I only ever buy them because they have no alternative. I'd prefer a Red Stripe. More easy vibe.