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Originally Posted by shaina
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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
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Sound out the big words...Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina:unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
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There is certainly one discernable fact in all this:
There is as much - if not more - animus in the world for the US as there is for Israel.
The weakness that has germinated in the Biden administration gives rein to anti-US actions and sentiment coincidental with the very bald anti-semitism on display everywhere - especially on our own soil.
This dynamic constitutes the biggest risk of most of our lifetimes.
The bigger picture is this whole flare-up in the middle east was engineered by Russia and her allies to divert the world's attention away from Ukraine.
It's just a shame that innocent civilians on both sides are being slaughtered.
Sorry, I missed Fox 'news'. What is it they told you to say about Biden, weakness, and antisemitism?Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
Were they suggesting Biden directly insert troops into Ukraine to stop Putin's attempt at overthrowing one of our allies in that region? Or did Fox want Biden to boldly demand that Israel stop the invasion into Gaza and committing mass murder of Palestinian civilians, even to such a horrible level that they are carpet bombing refugee camps?
People around the world are speaking up against the horrific actions of Israel. That is not antisemitism. Israel is hiding behind the rhetoric of, "opposing us regardless of what we are doing is antisemitism". No, the actions of Israel are dehumanizing of the Palestinian civilians-- which are apparent even in Shay's comments.
College kids protesting the slaughter of Palestinian civilians is not antisemitism.
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Originally Posted by megabytemeQuote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
Where did I mention anything about Biden, or his weakness?Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Are you arguing there is no anti-semitism extant?
You're taking liberties, meg.
Not that I'm aware of - did I miss something?Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
You might keep in mind help for the Ukraine is not entirely - nor should it be - a burden for the US to shoulder entirely on it's own.
Russia's aggression against the Ukraine is to be considered in it's own right - China figures in as well.
The fact is (and don't dismiss this as rhetoric), if Trump was still President, none of this crap would be happening, and no one with the slightest acumen would dispute that.
Credible threats still carry weight.
Biden doesn't "boldly" do anything, in case you hadn't noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
I have a question for you:
Do you think Israel should kow-tow to any US "demand", or should they be considered the arbitor of their own course of action?
Can you bring yourself to question the tactics of Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran or any of the other potential participants?
If we can agree that the actions of Hamas initiated what has followed, what of that?Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Did you find their tactics acceptable?
Have you firm proof (not anecdotal "testimony") the IDF has done the equivalent?
"People around the world" are generally, if not antisemitic, anti-Israel, I think you'll find, and for no more reason than that the US is pro-Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
In a similar vein, what do you make of the fact "people around the world" are ultimately not willing to accomodate Palestinians?
If we speculatively simplify things by subtracting anti-Israeli sentiment, and leave Gaza to become Palestine, what do we do with/about Hamas, et al?
When the chant of the "college kids" is "from the river to the sea...", well, that's antisemitism.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Have you seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbfccVBo9tE
A couiple of things that bear on US politics you may or may not hear elsewhere:
Three years into the Biden administration, and the essential imperative of Democrats is to take down Donald Trump - to the detriment of any-and-everything else.
Coincidentally, there is no denying Biden's basically pro-Israel rhetoric; even if he favored a cease-fire out of concern for Palestinian innocents, domestic Muslims are only 17% pro-Biden, so I don't have to argue too hard to proffer that precise population constitutes the entirety of those who would tolerate the continued existence of Israel.
What should is say about this?? Sorry you are not intelligent enough to look/view all news outlets to find the truth in there somewhere??Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
So far i gurantee anywhere you go for news, they are jumping the gun on blame?? So now Israel has decided to do what is in there best interests for safety and security, Just like the US and any place that has there population in mind ??
In other words Go Fuck Yourself:hug:
Where was there a carpet bomb in a refugee camp IGNORAMUS ??Quote:
Were they suggesting Biden directly insert troops into Ukraine to stop Putin's attempt at overthrowing one of our allies in that region? Or did Fox want Biden to boldly demand that Israel stop the invasion into Gaza and committing mass murder of Palestinian civilians, even to such a horrible level that they are carpet bombing refugee camps?
They bombed the middle of the camp where they got at the tunnels underneath , and the rest was collateral damage from the tunnel structure underneath the buildings??
Why was anyone there other than Terrorists!!! Israel dropped leaflets, millions of phone calls, media!! Get the fuck out of the North!!!!, amazing so many claimed innocents were still reported allegedly killed?? Just like the the ambulance and hospital parking lot!!?? LOL you gullible ignoramus LOL!!!
Not going to work anymore;)
Tell me Meg... Who builds terrorists tunnels under there own population??
How many were truly killed be it tragic?? how many were innocent how many were Terrorists??
I know Israel has sent every type of deterrent to get them to move south towards the Egypt border??
If you have children what would you do??
I know when the sirens go off in Israel, there parents move there families to the nearest bomb shelters??
Why are Gazan's not moving to bomb shelters Hamas built?? or better yet to the tunnels underneath there homes??
Don't fucking tell me Hamas didn't have the raw materials to make safety facilities for there population!!!
What did they do with all of it!!!?? Watch Fucking Fox NEWS and Israeli news outlets media to find out the truth!!!!!
No again my Ignorant friend........Quote:
People around the world are speaking up against the horrific actions of Israel. That is not antisemitism. Israel is hiding behind the rhetoric of, "opposing us regardless of what we are doing is antisemitism". No, the actions of Israel are dehumanizing of the Palestinian civilians-- which are apparent even in Shay's comments.
I told you there are far less innocents in Gaza than you think!!! They voted Hamas in by a large amount of the population!! And if there was a election in Judea and Samaria today, they would win there as well!!!
So what now ??
And if you really read my posts!!! No one wants these made up Palestinians, yes made up people Meg!!!, Yet the Arab and Russian world made them!!!
Now as i said they have had enough of them...
Making Peace with Israel is looking easier and better yet more advantages, than going along with Terrorists Iran!!
So ending this nonsense Meg!!... How do you make peace with someone that doesn't want you to exist??
So If Iran or its proxies does a terrorists attack in your backyard (G-D Forbid!!!!!), like 911??
What would the US response be??
The only fucking slaughter happened in Israel !!!!Quote:
College kids protesting the slaughter of Palestinian civilians is not antisemitism.
What is happening in Gaza and Judea and Samaria is eliminating Terrorists that use innocents as human shields, not protect the people they claim to falsely represent and they are dumb enough to believe it!!!!
And it is 80% Antisemitism !! And the rest is just plain ignorance like you that don't really know what happens on the ground in the Middle East!!!
But you are entitled to your opinion, the same with Fake News outlets, and what happens sooner or later, you hope the truth prevails and educates ignorant people :hug:
Edit: Tell me Meg..... Has Israel made peace with Arab Countries?? Why do you think that is??
They claim that the Palestinians deserve there own State/Country?? What is the Abraham Accords??
Before the slaughter in Israel!!!! What was the biggest news happening in the Middle East??
Hopefully you are not that ignorant to figure that out and know why this really happened;)
And will not happen again!!!!!!
You are on to something here, just the wrong motive:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
Just remember Saudi Arabia has the most influence on the Middle East , so if you make peace with Israel who else are you making peace with:)
Yup!! , And fixes were going to be implemented, and that was stopped by Terrorists Iran now!!!!!Quote:
It's just a shame that innocent civilians on both sides are being slaughtered.
What discussions were made with every Terrorists, Dictator, Communists country that took place??
Well that is history now.......