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[Caballero]

Hey Shamir — here’s another sign how successful your favorite prez is in his handling of the economy:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/at...-27-2019-02-14

Amazing you show me one site and i can show you 10 that debunk that...

Simple question Cabby, you live the the US, are you putting more money in your pocket with tax cuts?? Not asking you blah blah blah,well he said it should be this much, or Obama the great, the question is are you putting more money in your pocket??

Easy answer: No. I am one of the losers of this so-called tax reform. And most people I know, even some who admit voting for him, tell me the same.

And I would believe the Fed any day over some right-wing fake news website. Quality of sources matters, just sayin'...


BTW, sorry for the "Shamir". Not sure wher ethat came from; auto-correct on the stupid iPhone must have struck again. I swear I typed "Shaina".

[Caballero]

Simple question Cabby, you live the the US, are you putting more money in your pocket with tax cuts?? Not asking you blah blah blah,well he said it should be this much, or Obama the great, the question is are you putting more money in your pocket??

That is a stupid question. Most people are only seeing a small increase in their paycheck ($10-$15 per week), unless of course you are rich then the increase is significant. I'd rather see that money go towards healthcare, education, infrastructure, etc. The tax cut is just going to make rich people richer and increase the national debt significantly. But I guess as long as republicans make the rich richer, the rich will keep getting them reelected. Then with the next crash, a Democrat will have to come in and fix it. Once everything gets back on track a republican will take power again and fuck it up again. We have been in this cycle for far too long.

Also -- even if people see "more money in their pay check", it's apparently due to changed withholding schedules which now comes back in the forms of lower tax refunds or additional IRS payments by April 15.

That whole law was one giant con on the middle class.

[shaina]

Also -- even if people see "more money in their pay check", it's apparently due to changed withholding schedules which now comes back in the forms of lower tax refunds or additional IRS payments by April 15.
That whole law was one giant con on the middle class.

So the no was actually a yes, and yes your tax break does look less but you are getting it up front. So on both ends you are saving just the illusion of seeing a bigger tax refund is not there, I did see that reported on the News, you will not be paying more out of your pocket.....

The middle class always pays for everything, it is considered the majority of the work force, You want socialized health care?? wake up it is going to get worse!!, the middle class is going to get hit the worst!!!, it always does, and because middle class covers a broad spectrum of people and there income., But the middle class pays in taxes and the wealthy give donations and build and fund the hospitals, but of course that doesn't count right. When is the last time you look on the walls in a hospital and see middle class giving Millions and Millions of dollars in the structure of hospitals, I do look!!!!, I look at the companies and the personal wealthy donating.. The same with private schools here, again it is there prerogative who they give there money too, and if people have a problem with that too bad, that is the way the world works...

I just wanted to make sure we are on the same page here.....

[shaina]

BTW, sorry for the "Shamir". Not sure wher ethat came from; auto-correct on the stupid iPhone must have struck again. I swear I typed "Shaina".

As you know and said I watch all news stations, including a lot of Middle East and EU outlets, why?? Because you know the US affects everyone!!!...
And i read between the lines, even know sometimes it is very difficult to watch for long periods of time on Left Wing news, because it is all day bashing Trump and Russian collusion with splashes of actual news that affects people, and you know that as well, but i do watch everywhere, and read between the lines..

Just call me Shay on the open forums, it didn't bother me one bit buddy

If you are near a TV now just watch any news station

[shaina]

Answer this Cabby...

Now CNN says 90% of the legal drugs come from the port?? So only 10% gets in?? So 10% is causing all the drug problems?? Forget about the Gangs or other people getting in?? They are not just coming in from the ports, they are coming in through open spaces or barriers that have depleted and old... Walls or barriers don't stop everyone but they do work and at least push people to go to the border ports. Now you add technology, because if you don't have barriers, there is not enough man power to monitor open areas, close off sections ,and push them to areas where you can reduce crossings.......

Now that is just crap!! If there is no structure or barriers?? How do you know really how much is coming in from there?? Well the people that are getting caught are not being spoken of on Left Wing media stations?? Why?? because reality is they Don't Like Trump!! and the Left want open borders period!!!....
CNN Trump Trump Trump!!!, and this is the longest i haven't herd Russia . The truth here!! every minute there is a shooting here, where do you think the guns are coming from?? You guys!!!, not at the border a while back they caught multiple hand guns that were being smuggled in gas tanks!! They fill up with just enough gas to get across the border so they can fit more guns!!!, so my point!! they catch people at the border entries, yet there is a ton of guns still getting in!!! who says how they are really getting in??
The same with immigration, these socialist and dictator countries are loving them to leave, less burden on there countries, even know that is a sad thing to say....


Now Jim Acuasta CNN is kissing ass!!!!.....

[Caballero]

Faux News being number one among cable news channels doesn't make it more credible. After all, Faux News IS an entertainment channel. They were sued many times for what people said on your favorite shows, but they were found not liable because their defense is that their shows are for entertainment purposes only. Everything stated on their shows is the opinions of those people (NOT facts).

Now everyone is following there ways, but failing because they are just not credible, and realistic?? Or maybe Faux News is just so far out!!! it interests the crazies, and there is a lot more of them

Fox themselves is making a distincton betwen their news organization and their opinion shows. George Wallace is a credible journalist to me; the asshats at Fox & Friends on the other hand not.

The problem is that Fox does not make that distinction clear to their audience and that their opinion shows bleed into what the simpletons watching them think is news. That's your definition of propaganda.

[Caballero]

Also -- even if people see "more money in their pay check", it's apparently due to changed withholding schedules which now comes back in the forms of lower tax refunds or additional IRS payments by April 15.
That whole law was one giant con on the middle class.

So the no was actually a yes, and yes your tax break does look less but you are getting it up front. So on both ends you are saving just the illusion of seeing a bigger tax refund is not there, I did see that reported on the News, you will not be paying more out of your pocket.....

The middle class always pays for everything, it is considered the majority of the work force, You want socialized health care?? wake up it is going to get worse!!, the middle class is going to get hit the worst!!!, it always does, and because middle class covers a broad spectrum of people and there income., But the middle class pays in taxes and the wealthy give donations and build and fund the hospitals, but of course that doesn't count right. When is the last time you look on the walls in a hospital and see middle class giving Millions and Millions of dollars in the structure of hospitals, I do look!!!!, I look at the companies and the personal wealthy donating.. The same with private schools here, again it is there prerogative who they give there money too, and if people have a problem with that too bad, that is the way the world works...

I just wanted to make sure we are on the same page here.....

Bullshit. The reason you see a millionaire's name on a hospital wall is because he gave a million and they need to stroke his ego. A single member of the middle class clearly can't give the same amount, but look at the charitable giving of the middle class as a whole and compare it against what the millionaires are giving as a whole (and then adjust for some outliers like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet) and then let's talk about "who gives more" (particularly when compared against their ability to give). I am absoloutely for a progressive increase in marginal tax rates as your income increases. Doesn't mean that you provide less incentive for people to work (shit, if I make an extra million and have to give 70% away I am still $300K better off than before), it just means that you finally tie the responsibility of paying for shit back to the ability to pay.

And no, my no is a no. Mr. Trump and his merry band of Republicans are costing me major money, simply for all the caps they put on deductions. I said it before, I will enter my taxes in both Turbo Tax for this year and for last year, and I will tell you to the penny how much this alleged "relief for the middle class" costs me.

[Caballero]

Answer this Cabby...

Now CNN says 90% of the legal drugs come from the port?? So only 10% gets in?? So 10% is causing all the drug problems?? Forget about the Gangs or other people getting in?? They are not just coming in from the ports, they are coming in through open spaces or barriers that have depleted and old... Walls or barriers don't stop everyone but they do work and at least push people to go to the border ports. Now you add technology, because if you don't have barriers, there is not enough man power to monitor open areas, close off sections ,and push them to areas where you can reduce crossings.......

If you actually listened and tried to comprehend the statistics you'd figure out that what they say is that 90% of all drugs entering the country are coming through legal points of entry/border crossings, i.e. a truck full of coke or heroin passing through El Paso or Brownsville. Building a wall doesn't do anything to stop or change that. Your money would be better spent employing an extra 1,000 postal inspectors to filter out the fantanyl being mailed from China.

[shaina]

Fox themselves is making a distincton betwen their news organization and their opinion shows. George Wallace is a credible journalist to me; the asshats at Fox & Friends on the other hand not.
The problem is that Fox does not make that distinction clear to their audience and that their opinion shows bleed into what the simpletons watching them think is news. That's your definition of propaganda.

Ok i agree, but all news stations are going the format, it sells to the viewers, now you have to read between actual facts and opinions where you are right it is propaganda. I remember the days with Ted Turner owning CNN and you got the news from the anchors period, and yes you have opinion shows but the news anchors never had an opinion, they may have added a question to the person they were interviewing to see there reaction?? but facts were said and that was that.. There is a few anchors on Fox News that are actually good, and people like Hannity never say they are news reporters or anchors, they push there point of view, it is the same as reading the news on the net?? When the column says on the top Opinion, and on the bottom a disclaimer that it is not necessarily the point of views of the site?? which to me is just horseshit as well !! Most of the time they use people that lean to there agenda of there readers.
Again that is why i go to many sites and read between the lines..... Like is it funny that i told you i go to Middle East sites etc. So i look at many different Israel news sites, and they constantly bash government and some praise, now go to RT news and see if you can find one Negative thing said about Putin, Go to Iran Syria, or other middle east news sites and see if there ever bash there Dictators or rule?? Aljazeera is the best one, they report world news but when it comes ot the people they support you never see anything bad spoken about them so how can you not call it Fake News??

Again just having a fun conversation

[shaina]

[ If you actually listened and tried to comprehend the statistics you'd figure out that what they say is that 90% of all drugs entering the country are coming through legal points of entry/border crossings, i.e. a truck full of coke or heroin passing through El Paso or Brownsville. Building a wall doesn't do anything to stop or change that. Your money would be better spent employing an extra 1,000 postal inspectors to filter out the fantanyl being mailed from China.

Funny my wife and I love that "Borders" show (The song "would i lie to you"), again your point is noted as fact, and all the same you will never stop all the drugs coming in especially as long as there is a demand right. And there should be moneys allocated to that for sure!!!, But what i said before is the Democrats should have given him the money for the wall, and used the points for the 2020 election on it's failures?? But i guess that wasn't a thought because maybe barriers do work, and not saying everywhere, technology and other things are needed, and i was thinking?? you could say that barriers are ugly and may end up with graffiti and stuff?? But would you rather have a drone buzzing over your head And how is that fit in the Green proposal?? Oh wait!! Open Borders is what they want, and that is in every news station Left or Right

Now this was just said and you would maybe know?? It was just said that Mexico has places where crime and brutality is worse than places in the Middle East??
What do you think??

Edit: Now it looks like Biden is going to be in the running 2020, do you think he has got a shot the way the Democrats are going??