Intelligent design

[Rat Faced]

I think Intelligent Design is flawed because of one major reason...

Its bloody BADLY designed..

If he was practising his designs on the other animals 1st or something, how come we dont have the eyes of eagles, speed of cheetahs etc etc etc..

Lets face it; we see crap, hear crap and are slow as hell.

Our heads and genitalia are exposed, both being contra-survival.

Just about everything in our "Natural" diet, has been shown to be bad for us... so what the hell was he doing while he designed the digestive system?

We are prone, not only to virii/bacteria that live on us... but can catch stuff from other creatures too...


"Intelligent Design"?? Sack the bloody designer...

Those that point to "Intelligence"; well i respond by pointing out War, Genocide, Racism, Bigotry, Greed... Its not Intelligent to be self destructive.

Dolphins also have large brains... all they do is eat, play and f*ck... who's the most intelligent then?

[whypikonme]

I think Intelligent Design is flawed because of one major reason...

Its bloody BADLY designed..

He didn't do a bad job of the camel.

[vidcc]

It appears you can only see a creator of the universe as being a God, others see it differently. I have explained how that might work.

If the creator if the universe is not a God (omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent) then how is studying her a religious matter. That is different from worshipping.

It is perfectly reasonable, outwith a religious framework, to suggest that a sentient being "designed" and created the universe as we know it. All that is doing is suggesting that their are being in the universe who are more advanced than us, then possibility extend that possibility to a high degree.

The evidence for this ID is presumably assumptions based on observations. One group says the universe is complex, therefore it must be totally random. Another says that it is complex and orderly therefore there must have been a designer. Neither requires the existance, or otherwise, of a God.

Then that goes with the already asked "who created the creator" for these Christians. (does god have elves?)
Take to mind that the people this is about state without reservation that God is the creator.... They wish to have Evolution removed from schools but as they realise this cannot happen they spout I.D..... It is making god fit.

You can point to your own theory but that is not the theory of the people I am talking about.

[Mad Cat]

I remember in some newspaper, there was a little comic of a scientist and a religious figurehead in two seperate cells.
I think the scientist side said:
"My method is to look at the facts and create theories."
The religious side:
"My method is to create theories and then find facts to support them."

Semed right to me. I probably wrote it out wrong, if anyone knows of / can find the original or can correct me, please. The gist is there though.

[lynx]

I think Intelligent Design is flawed because of one major reason...

Its bloody BADLY designed..

He didn't do a bad job of the camel.

Oh Yeah?

Then how come it always has the hump?

[Busyman]

Cool. Lazy thinking is...."well it just happened".

You're explaination of my way of thinking is idiotic. Who the fuck said theories can't be handled? I believe theories can lead to further scientific study. However, they are still theories and people draw conclusions which are not so.

The Big Bang theory may be bullshit. The Bang could have been started by an intelligent being that may not fit into your statistical analysis nor your petri dish.

Yes, lazy thinking is putting your feet up and saying, "meh, it just happened". Rather than trying to understand.

Agreed.

I don't see how my explanation of your way of thinking is idiotic. In fact, I think it's spot on.

You said earlier that you believe in intelligent design, you then expounded (well, you agreed with me when I did your thinking for you) and said that it involves a lot more than god setting off the big bang and leaving stuff to happen. Now you're moving away and trying to focus on the big bang being started by an intelligent being. You don't know what you believe

You are shit at reading. When did I change? When did I agree with you? I sure didn't agree with the crux of your argument.

Relating to the topic however, this should not be taught in school because belief in intelligent design has squat to do with something like expansion of the universe.

How could a curriculum be made?
Can an apparatus be used to test anything based on intelligent design?

I don't care.

You don't really have an opinion on the origin of the universe, the above is you distancing yourself from what you've written previously.

Everything you've posted so far has demonstrated your ignorance.

To the contrary....

See you make up this 2 sided argument about science and I'm supposed to be on a different side than yourself....like folks that believe in a higher being are oblivious to the scientific process.

I believe an intelligent being created the universe. It doesn't mean I don't mean I don't believe in science. This was Captain Obvious throughout my posts but you just demonstrated your ignorance in reading comprehension.

[manker]

You are shit at reading. When did I change? When did I agree with you? I sure didn't agree with the crux of your argument.

See you make up this 2 sided argument about science and I'm supposed to be on a different side than yourself

First you say you don't agree with me and I'm shit at reading, then you say I've made up this two sided argument so you're not on a different side to me and then you go on to say ... I'm shit at reading.

I did say in an earlier post that I'm good at dechiphering gibberish. Looking at this, I may have to retract that.


My posts stand. You haven't a clue.

[Busyman]

See you make up this 2 sided argument about science and I'm supposed to be on a different side than yourself

First you say you don't agree with me and I'm shit at reading, then you say I've made up this two sided argument so you're not on a different side to me and then you go on to say ... I'm shit at reading.

I did say in an earlier post that I'm good at dechiphering gibberish. Looking at this, I may have to retract that.


My posts stand. You haven't a clue.

Really?
READ!!!

It's quite simple.
You are saying in your posts that because I believe in ID that I must be against science.

You are quite wrong.

I have made no statements that I don't believe in science.

My belief in the scientific method and ID are totally separate. (partly why I believe it shouldn't be in schools....I only said that over and fucking over )

If you had your head out of your ass you'd have seen it to be Captain Obvious from my first post to the current one.

[manker]

Why don't you ever address what I write.

First you said that you don't agree with me, then you said you do. Then you said I can't read.

Ironic, no.

[Busyman]

Why don't you ever address what I write.

First you said that you don't agree with me, then you said you do. Then you said I can't read.

Ironic, no.

Agree with what? WHAT?!!!