Australia 197-7 - Freddie Flintoff strikes again
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Australia 197-7 - Freddie Flintoff strikes again
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news falsh warne is the only aust batsam that can... errrrr bat at the moment
there all making starts and then getting out probaly wotn avoid teh follow on but I was england I wouldnt enforce it!!! i wouldnt want to bat 2nd
Last edited by Adster; 08-12-2005 at 11:41 PM.
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They'll only enforce it if the weather is bad tomorrow - no option but to do that, I reckon.
You're right about batting last. Btw, did you see Ashley Giles, the king of spain's, ball to get Martyn out?
Fecking quality.
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Fat Secret Agent
If the follow on is available they will enforce it.
When was the last time it was an option for Engerland against t'Aussies ffs.
That and the fact that they are on a high just now, why risk passing the momentum over.
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Hoi! This is serious stuff, JP. We're not talking about t'arras now.
Vaughan doesn't strike me as the romantic sort and he will do what's best for the team, which is make 'em follow on if the weather looks bad or tell his team to set them a target of 400+ in 4 sessions. England's first innings total isn't enough and the last time Australia followed on, they won (against India)
Enforcing follow-ons is over-rated anyway, making your bowlers try get 20 wickets in one pop is asking a lot.
The last time England made Australia follow on, btw, was back in 1987. At least I think that's what Richie Benaud said earlier.
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its set to piss down all day tomorrow
Fat Secret Agent
Originally Posted by manker
Hoi! This is serious stuff, JP. We're not talking about t'arras now.
Vaughan doesn't strike me as the romantic sort and he will do what's best for the team, which is make 'em follow on if the weather looks bad or tell his team to set them a target of 400+ in 4 sessions. England's first innings total isn't enough and the last time Australia followed on, they won (against India)
Enforcing follow-ons is over-rated anyway, making your bowlers try get 20 wickets in one pop is asking a lot.
The last time England made Australia follow on, btw, was back in 1987. At least I think that's what Richie Benaud said earlier.
t'arras is the only sport (Sport England said so) which Engerland dominates the world at.
I was thinking more of the psychological element rather than anything else. However we have previously established that you are more of a cerebral, book learning type dude, whilst I am a more intuitive, people type person.
I think the game is won in the head (like t'Aussies do), you think it is won on the playing fields, with tactics and rannygazoo.
If Engerland want to consistantly win stuff they have to be more Shane Warnesque, swagger out there and show a bit of spunk
effendi
Hoi! This is serious stuff, JP. We're not talking about t'arras now.
Vaughan doesn't strike me as the romantic sort and he will do what's best for the team, which is make 'em follow on if the weather looks bad or tell his team to set them a target of 400+ in 4 sessions. England's first innings total isn't enough and the last time Australia followed on, they won (against India)
Enforcing follow-ons is over-rated anyway, making your bowlers try get 20 wickets in one pop is asking a lot.
The last time England made Australia follow on, btw, was back in 1987. At least I think that's what Richie Benaud said earlier.
t'arras is the only sport (Sport England said so) which Engerland dominates the world at.
I was thinking more of the psychological element rather than anything else. However we have previously established that you are more of a cerebral, book learning type dude, whilst I am a more intuitive, people type person.
I think the game is won in the head (like t'Aussies do), you think it is won on the playing fields, with tactics and rannygazoo.
If Engerland want to consistantly win stuff they have to be more Shane Warnesque, swagger out there and show a bit of spunk
Indeed, if Fred the Thrash, Kev the Slog or even Jones the Ball were Captains of England or their respective counties then the follow-on would be enforced, no matter of other circumstance.
It is to the selectors' collective credit that they are not and have instead chosen a more cerebral, book learning type dude to captain the side
Tactical rannyganzoo > Gung-ho hullaballoo.
A mix is nice, which is what the Aussies have always had, until now. Border and Taylor were the former, presiding over exuberant sides full of dickheads like Healy.
Ponting has a bit of both about him but tends toward the gung-ho - this is where his mate Lehman came in. Always on hand to offer a word or guiding hand, I think Ponting misses him a lot. Now he asks Warne or McGrath, who encourage his reckless side (re: winning the toss in the 2nd test and putting England in to bat).
They can probably get away with it tho' - since they're awesome and spunky.
I plan on beating him to death with his kids. I'll use them as a bludgeon on his face. -
--Good for them if they survive.
Fat Secret Agent
So a mix you say, some form of "best of both worlds type scenario".
Your ideas interest me strangely, I must think on this.
Thank you my sleep deprived Welsh ninja chum.
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Sleep?
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