Manker or someone of similar knowledge

[Jon L. Obscene]

I did'nt mean I have at the shop, but I have done before and while laying the floor at shop I was working 14-15 hour days for a week pretty much.

You are actually allowed to work as long as you want (providing it does'nt involve machinery) as long as you sign a disclaimer, the woman I used to work with did this cos she wants 60 hours per week.

Jonno

[JPaul]

Re the annual leave thing, I think it varies a lot, depending on the job you are in. Quite a lot of people only get unpaid leave. Hence things like holiday stamps in the building trade. (Is that still going on).

[Jon L. Obscene]

Yeah but I'm just talking about the standard, there is a basic standard rate, like tax exemption for the first £1800 (or whatever it is now), that varies depending on your job as does NI contributions. But there is a flat rate.

As for holiday stamps in the trade, I dunno mate, been self employed for the last 4 or 5 years, if I took holiday I did'nt get paid, simple as that.

Jonno

[JPaul]

You are actually allowed to work as long as you want (providing it does'nt involve machinery) as long as you sign a disclaimer, the woman I used to work with did this cos she wants 60 hours per week.

Jonno

This speaks of the working hours and of the annual leave entitlement.

SECTION II - MINIMUM REST PERIODS - OTHER ASPECTS OF THE ORGANISATION OF WORKING TIME

Article 3 - Daily rest
Member States shall take the measures necessary to ensure that every worker is entitled to a minimum daily rest period of 11 consecutive hours per 24-hour period.

Article 4 - Breaks
Member States shall take the measures necessary to ensure that, where the working day is longer than six hours, every worker is entitled to a rest break, the details of which, including duration and the terms of which it is granted, shall be laid down in collective agreements or agreements between the two sides of industry or, failing that, by national legislation.

Article 5 - Weekly rest period
Member States shall take the measures necessary to ensure that, per each seven-day period, every worker is entitled to a minimum uninterrupted rest period of 24 hours plus the 11 hours daily rest referred to in Article 3. The minimum rest period referred to in the first subparagraph shall in principle include Sunday. If objective, technical or work organisation conditions so justify, a minimum rest period of 24 hours may be applied.

Article 6 - Maximum weekly working time
Member States shall take the measures necessary to ensure that, in keeping with the need to protect the safety and health of workers:
1. the period of weekly working time is limited by means of laws, regulations or administrative provisions or by collective agreements or agreements between the two sides of industry;
2. the average working time for each seven-day period, including overtime, does not exceed 48 hours.

Article 7 - Annual leave
1. Member States shall take the measures necessary to ensure that every worker is entitled to paid annual leave of at least four weeks in accordance with the conditions for entitlement to, and granting of, such leave laid down by national legislation and/or practice.
2. The minimum period of paid annual leave may not be replaced by an allowance in lieu, except where the employment relationship is terminated.

Source

[manker]

Well, I'm at that thread you directed me to, Jonno, but JP has already answered

Apply the annual four weeks a year off thing proportionately to your leave date and the start of the tax year.

28 days *148/365 - any days you've already taken including bank holidays.

Multiply the answer by your daily pay.

[Jon L. Obscene]

Ah, I get it now, sorry that quote JP used read weird to me.

Thank you all.

Jonno

[JPaul]

Well, I'm at that thread you directed me to, Jonno, but JP has already answered

Apply the annual four weeks a year off thing proportionately to your leave date and the start of the tax year.

28 days *148/365 - any days you've already taken including bank holidays.

Multiply the answer by your daily pay.

Does the four weeks paid leave include Bank Holidays.

I s'pose that makes sense if you think about it, I just hadn't thought about it b4.

Is the tax year thing a rod, or is there a relevance to it. I thought it would just be the leave year which was significant.

[manker]

Well, I'm at that thread you directed me to, Jonno, but JP has already answered

Apply the annual four weeks a year off thing proportionately to your leave date and the start of the tax year.

28 days *148/365 - any days you've already taken including bank holidays.

Multiply the answer by your daily pay.

Does the four weeks paid leave include Bank Holidays.

I s'pose that makes sense if you think about it, I just hadn't thought about it b4.

Is the tax year thing a rod, or is there a relevance to it. I thought it would just be the leave year which was significant.

Yeah, the statutory paid four weeks does include bank holidays.

I'm not entirely certain what you mean with the tax year relevance. You're only entitled to a proportion of the 4 weeks holiday if you leave in the middle of a tax year.

If it's exactly 26 weeks into the tax year, you're entitled to two weeks holiday pay less what you've already taken, if you leave 13 weeks into the tax year, you're entitled to 1 week holiday pay less what you've taken - and so forth.

[Jon L. Obscene]

Ok my problem is (and I may be being thick here) , you say about entitled to 2 weeks holiday, how do I work out what a week is? I work different hours every week pretty much......can I work it out from how much I've earnt? and do I do that from gross or net?

Jonno

[manker]

Ok my problem is (and I may be being thick here) , you say about entitled to 2 weeks holiday, how do I work out what a week is? I work different hours every week pretty much......can I work it out from how much I've earnt? and do I do that from gross or net?

Jonno

Take an average from the last 8 weeks. Use gross figures.

Tax and NI should then be subtracted from that.


In your case it's gonna be 11.35 days (or 1.62 weeks) minus what you've already taken.

So, say your average wage is £300 per week and you've not taken any holidays since 5th April this year:

300 multiplied by 1.62 = £486

Or if your average wage is £275 and you've taken 2 days holiday in this tax year:

277 multiplied by 1.335 = £367