Northern Ireland kick's off again

[j2k4]

It didnt in this circumstance either, the Orangemen's supporters rioted all over Ulster from what i heard. (I havent been watching the news though, just hearsay)

Has the arbitrater resigned in disgrace yet?

[Rat Faced]

In this case, it was a lose:lose for the arbitrator..

If the march had went ahead where they wished to march, then there would have been riots.

If the march was not allowed there wold have been riots from the other side.

They therefore tried to compromise.. let the march go ahead, avoiding the Catholic area.... guess what, there were riots.

[j2k4]

Then I reiterate:

Has the arbitrater resigned in disgrace yet?

[JPaul]

Then I reiterate:

Has the arbitrater resigned in disgrace yet?

Why would they.

They made a decision which was in their power to make. They made the only reasonable decision they could under the circumstances.

They allowed the march to go ahead, but did not allow it to go thro' an area which would obviously cause problems. They tried to find a compromise solution, which I think they did (which is why I said it earlier).

Where is the disgrace in that. The disgrace is in the behaviour of those who did not accept the legal decision and who rioted in the streets.

This holds equally for either "side" in such circumstances.

[chalice]

There have been voices of descent in the Orange Order of late but there's been no talk of resignations. On the contrary, leading loyalists have drop-kicked the blame into the PSNI's end of the field and are happily attributing the recent anarchy to poor policing.

The UVF promised that there would be serious repercussions for the security forces if women and child protestors (children, I ask you) were removed from the road blockades. The PSNI premitted the blocking of traffic, claiming that the protests were peaceful and so the entire city ground to a halt.

I didn't get home from work until 9pm on Monday. They were burning cars on the railway line. And to add insult to injury, some old bint decided it was a good time to commit suicide so it was a good two hours before the train got moving again. How inconsiderate.

[j2k4]

Then I reiterate:

Why would they.

That should be obvious; when an official is even peripherally involved in an endeavor that goes bad (so to speak), the de-facto public stance is to demand a resignation.*

Is this person different.

*Feel free to surmise intended sarcasm.

[JPaul]

Why would they.

That should be obvious; when an official is even peripherally involved in an endeavor that goes bad (so to speak), the de-facto public stance is to demand a resignation.*

Is this person different.

*Feel free to surmise intended sarcasm.

It's not a person, it's a group of people, I linked to it earlier.

They made a decision, which one group disagreed with and brought violence to the streets. It was their decision to make and it appears to be a fair and reasonable compromise. I can think of no earthly reason why they (or any one of them) would be expected to resign, under these circumstances.

If a group in the US asked for permission to have an "anti-black" march, thro a predominantly black area and the powers that be said "No, sorry, that's inflamatory likely to cause offence and possibly trouble. The march must be held elsewhere", would you expect them (the decision makers) to then resign, if the marchers became violent over the decision.

[Rat Faced]

Oh, i see where tis is going...

The big difference is of course that they made a compromise and tried like hell to stop any trouble or violence on either side.. granted they failed, as there is no compromise in the eyes of bigots.

They didnt finish their vacation, go fundraising, to the opera and shopping whilst just letting the people get on with dying.


Edit:

To clarify; no one expected the useless arsehole in the whitehouse to get a shovel out and get his hands dirty. What they did expect was that he showed that this was more important than the above, and to cancel these useless engagements to show that he was doing all he could.

[JPaul]

There have been voices of descent in the Orange Order of late but there's been no talk of resignations. On the contrary, leading loyalists have drop-kicked the blame into the PSNI's end of the field and are happily attributing the recent anarchy to poor policing.

The UVF promised that there would be serious repercussions for the security forces if women and child protestors (children, I ask you) were removed from the road blockades. The PSNI premitted the blocking of traffic, claiming that the protests were peaceful and so the entire city ground to a halt.

I didn't get home from work until 9pm on Monday. They were burning cars on the railway line. And to add insult to injury, some old bint decided it was a good time to commit suicide so it was a good two hours before the train got moving again. How inconsiderate.

Chalice,

Look time no speak old bean, good to see you about.

Sorry to hear you were late how, some people, tch.

[j2k4]

That should be obvious; when an official is even peripherally involved in an endeavor that goes bad (so to speak), the de-facto public stance is to demand a resignation.*

Is this person different.

*Feel free to surmise intended sarcasm.

It's not a person, it's a group of people, I linked to it earlier.

They made a decision, which one group disagreed with and brought violence to the streets. It was their decision to make and it appears to be a fair and reasonable compromise. I can think of no earthly reason why they (or any one of them) would be expected to resign, under these circumstances.

If a group in the US asked for permission to have an "anti-black" march, thro a predominantly black area and the powers that be said "No, sorry, that's inflamatory likely to cause offence and possibly trouble. The march must be held elsewhere", would you expect them (the decision makers) to then resign, if the marchers became violent over the decision.

Yes, yes, but what about the sarcastic view?

Rat-

Your posting presumes an element of malice on the part of Bush; an active urge to do harm to others, in this case through the vehicle of an easy and deniable neglect.

We arrive, finally, at the root of your animus.

Thank you for the clarification.

You realize, of course, that this would require he be an evil genius, which effectively places a moratorium on future negative references to his intellect, which fact you no doubt find tremendously disappointing.