...and speaks insincerely about warm feelings for, and appreciation of, the U.S. efforts in Iraq.
The man was obviously lying, don't you think?
...and speaks insincerely about warm feelings for, and appreciation of, the U.S. efforts in Iraq.
The man was obviously lying, don't you think?
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
One man is not the people.
He lies about everything else, been convicted of it in fact, so i wouldnt be surprised if he lied @ the Whitehouse too.
However, as i havent seen the speech in question, i cant really say whether he looked sincere, i'll just have to take your word for it.
An It Harm None, Do What You Will
Yes-I looked for Bush's right hand; it was nowhere in sight-methinks it was wearing an Iraqi puppet.Originally Posted by Rat Faced
BTW-what was Talabani convicted of, and who convicted him?
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
Ah, my mistake... he was the Terrorist.
Its the Deputy Prime Minister thats the fraudster...1934: Born into a landowning family in Koy Sanjak in the Irbil Province.
1947: Joins the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP).
1951: Becomes member of the central committee of the KDP.
1953: Starts studying law at Baghdad University.
1954: Is elected Secretary General of the Kurdistan Students Union.
1959: Obtains a law degree from Baghdad University, and starts practicing as lawyer.
1961: Becomes head of the KDP Peshmerga ("Freedom fighters").
1966: Leaves the KDP and founds an alternative KDP.
1970: Rejoins the KDP. He moves to Beirut, later to Damascus, serving as KDP's envoy.
1975: Founds the Kurdish Workers League.
1976: Joins with the Social Democratic Movement and forms the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK).
1980 With the start of the Iran-Iraq War Talabani joins forces with KDP in opposing the government in Baghdad.
1987: Forms the iraqi Kurdistan Front together with KDP, under the protection of Iran. They establish small pockets of Kurdish areas liberated from Baghdad.
1988: Iraq reconquers the liberated Kurdish areas. Talabani flees to Syria.
1991 March: Central in starting a Kurdish uprising against the central government of Baghdad, which would lead to a flood of 1.5 million Kurdish refugees.
1992 May: Elections in the Kurdish areas, under the protection of Western countries. Talabani became leader together with Masud Barzani of KDP.
1994 May: The coalition breaks down, and PUK troops wage partisan war with KDP, resulting in more than 1,000 dead.
1995: With a new stability coming to Kurdistan, Talabani finds himself controlling an area with about 2 million inhabitants. In order to find resources for the administration, he made advances towards the government in Teheran. KDP and Baghdad reacted, and forced KDP and PUK to cooperate.
1996 August: New fighting between KDP and PUK. At one point Talabani had lost all his territory, but reconquered all but Irbil with the aid of Iran.
2003: With the US initiative, Talabani agrees to cooperate with KDP against the regime of Saddam Hussein.
— Talabani breaches his agreement with KDP, and has his forces take control over Kirkuk.
2004: Forms the Democratic Patriotic Alliance of Kurdistan (DPAK) together with Barzani and KDP.
2005 January 30: DPAK wins 104 of the 111 seats in Kurdish National Assembly and 75 seats of 275 in the transitional Iraqi National Assembly.
2005 April 6: Is elected president of Iraq.
Talabani just changes sides all the time and doesnt seem to know what he believes in... or believes in what is good for him at any particular time.
An It Harm None, Do What You Will
He seems as (dis)honorable as any other candidate, then.
However, he stood within an arm's-reach of Bush, and is thus his puppet.
Obviously.
Rat-
In any case, had I not asked my question, he might have been left as you painted him, yes?
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
Indeed.
I would have continued to consider him merely dishonest.. my thanks
An It Harm None, Do What You Will
The use of the word 'right hand' is reminding me of something.
I am remembering all the requests for help, before 9/11 even, by all the Iraqi people to our government. A lot of these people had been severely dismembered by Saddam and his regime. Limbs missing, both hands chopped off for no known reason sometimes. Horrible tortures and deaths. Many people made their way to the States, and are here now. Much pressure from the Iraqi's on our government to rid Iraq of Saddam and his regime.
Where are these people now? Why is their voice not being heard? Have they changed their minds and don't want democracy now?
Last edited by Everose; 09-15-2005 at 12:46 AM.
Once they come to the States, they lose all standing in their native country, as far as I'm concerned.Originally Posted by Everose
Same with the Jews.
Let the U.N. handle that stuff-they're good at that sort of thing.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
I saw him and some guy that looked like a (Iraqi?) general recently while doing some phone work Iwontmentionwhere. The general's uniform was a khacki greenish color.Originally Posted by j2k4
A fella that worked in Iwontmentionwhere was telling me he was in line 'cause the first two Iraqi's were killed. Is that true?
Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!
Flies Like An Arrow, Flies Like An Apple
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Not so sure about that now. Would like to be rid of this helping other country's peoples and start concentrating more on helping ourselves. Feel kind of selfish thinking that way. I really do. All the tax money spent on helping these Iraqi people achieve democracy could have been put to use here. How can we justify the loss of our lives, too, and other country's lives? I don't want to sound heartless, but I will have to say that at least with democracy, maybe in the long run the Iraqi's will have hope of the end of all the killing. They didn't have that hope with Saddam. Guess I am just becoming a selfish American. Have to say I wish I trusted the UN more. It should be their job, shouldn't it? But if I am remembering right, they don't even have enough juevos to enforce their own sanctions do they? Didn't Saddam basically laugh at them? Well, I would like a stronger UN, one everyone feels they could trust, I guess. I am starting to think that is impossible, though.Originally Posted by j2k4
Last edited by Everose; 09-15-2005 at 05:28 AM.
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