New Evolution spat in U.S. schools goes to court

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[Everose]

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Just need to get some competent minded people to run for the school boards in Kansas now

That is no shit.

http://pitch.com/issues/2004-10-21/news/janovy.html

[Busyman]

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Just need to get some competent minded people to run for the school boards in Kansas now

That is no shit.

http://pitch.com/issues/2004-10-21/news/janovy.html

Thanks for that link Evey.

I share some illegal immigrant sentiment but she's a bitch.

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Just need to get some competent minded people to run for the school boards in Kansas now

That is no shit.

http://pitch.com/issues/2004-10-21/news/janovy.html

"It is our goal to write the standards in such a way that clearly gives educators the right AND responsibility to present the criticism of Darwinism alongside the age-old fairy tale of evolution"

“In short, Darwin’s theory of evolution is biologically, genetically, mathematically, chemically, metaphysically and etc. ‘wildly’ and ‘utterly impossible.’”

“I absolutely am getting more than enough information to be armed, to respond when I get the question, ‘Are you getting evidence to refute Darwinian evolution?’”

“I’ve read stacks of stuff . . . which refutes evolution.”

"Primarily, I sought this office because I felt it was required of me by God."

Connie Morris

And evolutionist are accused of not having an "open mind"

[GepperRankins]

she reminds me of jesus2004

[Everose]

Former mayor to challenge Morris

By KURSTEN PHELPS
[email protected]
Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:05:00 AM

Former Garden City Mayor Tim Cruz announced Friday his plans to run for the 5th District seat on the Kansas State Board of Education in 2006, a seat currently held by Connie Morris, R-St. Francis.

"I don't think our voice is being heard very well on the state board. My intention is to get around to the schools in the district, especially in Garden City, in our own community, and be able to represent our community, southwest Kansas. I just don't feel like we're being represented that well at this point," Cruz, a Democrat, said.

Cruz isn't an official candidate for next November's election yet, but Friday he mailed off a form declaring his intent to file as a candidate.

That would set up a potential face-off between Cruz and Morris, who said she plans to run for re-election in 2006.

Morris' campaign issues when she was elected in 2002 included criticizing using tax dollars to finance public education for the children of illegal immigrants. In 2003, she falsely accused Cruz, then Garden City's mayor, of being an illegal immigrant.

Morris subsequently apologized to Cruz, who is a third-generation Garden Citian.

"Unfortunately, that's the seat she's representing. I'm going to focus on what's best for kids in the community, for teachers in the community and for schools in the community," Cruz, an assistant manager at Sears said. "... Hopefully that incident won't be played on. I would really hate to get back into that. It was a tough time for me, and I tried to put that incident behind me, and hopefully we can keep it behind us."

Morris said she has "nothing more to say" about her comments about Cruz, who said her opponent will make for a good race.

"The apology has been made, and Mr. Cruz and I have visited, and I'm sure he's accepted my apology, and that's the end of that, as far as I'm considered," Morris said.

Cruz said he's not running "against" Morris. Rather, he's running for the school board and he and Morris share the same district.

Still, Morris has been no stranger to controversy since her first run for the state board in 2002. Beside her arguments that children of illegal immigrants shouldn't be entitled to public education in the United States, she's played a key role in the heated debate over whether criticism of evolution should be included in the state's science curriculum standards.

The most recent controversy surrounds her $4,000 taxpayer-funded trip to Miami for a conference in April, where she stayed at a luxury resort hotel. Morris has since repaid $2,890 to the state.

But Cruz said he's focused on what he can bring to the board.

"... I run into people all the time in my business and on the different boards I'm on. I'll be able to ask those types of questions and get feedback from the community," he said. "I definitely will need to do my homework. ... I think just being a voice for the community is a big thing, and the way you do that is by asking questions and listening to people. I have the willingness to listen and bring those issues forward to the board."

Cruz and his wife, Penny, a first-grade teacher at Alta Brown Elementary School, have two children, Zach, a Garden City High School senior, and Jocelyn, a GCHS sophomore.

George Hopkins, a former city commissioner and current USD 457 Board of Education member, said he's known Cruz since being classmates in the third grade at Jones Elementary, now Buffalo Jones Elementary School.

"In working with Tim on numerous projects and numerous committees and on the City Commission, I've found Tim to be one of the most selfless community servants I've met," Hopkins said. "He volunteers himself almost to a fault. He rarely says no to anyone and he works harder at community projects than anyone I've met. ... I consider myself a pretty good volunteer, and he puts me to shame."

The state school board's massive fifth district covers the western half of the state. Getting to know people and schools in such a huge area is a tough task, said Republican Sonny Rundell, who held the 5th District seat for 13 years until Morris defeated him in the 2002 state school board primary election.

But covering western Kansas won't be Cruz's only difficulty, Rundell said.

"The biggest thing he'll have to overcome is that he is a Democrat. It can be done,es running against Morris.

"We certainly need something more than what we've got," he said. but it's going to be really tough. The only way to do that is to do it so everybody can understand what kind of person he is," Rundell said. "We don't need a politician on the the board, we need someone's who is interested in what's best for all kids."

Rundell said he's pleased Cruz will run, but is not officially endorsing any candidates or possible candidate






Interesting, and more regarding the first link I posted. Cruz would have my vote. (Note that he is a Democratic, just like the Governor of Kansas.) I am registered Republican, remember. ;-)

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Now refresh my memory....intelligent design has NOTHING to do with religion?

Conservative Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson told citizens of a Pennsylvania town that they had rejected God by voting their school board out of office for supporting "intelligent design" and warned them Thursday not to be surprised if disaster struck.

Robertson, a former Republican presidential candidate and founder of the influential Christian Broadcasting Network and Christian Coalition, has made similar apocalyptic warnings and provocative statements before.


"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city," Robertson said on his daily television show broadcast from Virginia, "The 700 Club."

"And don't wonder why He hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for His help because he might not be there," he said.

Not creationism huh


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[Busyman]

Now refresh my memory....intelligent design has NOTHING to do with religion?

Conservative Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson told citizens of a Pennsylvania town that they had rejected God by voting their school board out of office for supporting "intelligent design" and warned them Thursday not to be surprised if disaster struck.

Robertson, a former Republican presidential candidate and founder of the influential Christian Broadcasting Network and Christian Coalition, has made similar apocalyptic warnings and provocative statements before.


"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city," Robertson said on his daily television show broadcast from Virginia, "The 700 Club."

"And don't wonder why He hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for His help because he might not be there," he said.

Not creationism huh


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Not any organized religion. However, the folks pushing for it to be in school have made it so.

I have no problem with it as long as it's in a theology or philosophy class.

Otherwise it's like putting math in English class. It's fucking stupid.

[JPaul]

Yeah but vidcc can take the opinion of one person, from one religion and then make that the position for all religious people, of every religion.

Didn't you know that.

He really is a devout atheist, almost missionary in his zeal. I think some holy book must have fallen on his head when he was younger. A koran to the cranium as it were.

[vidcc]

Yeah but vidcc can take the opinion of one person, from one religion and then make that the position for all religious people, of every religion.

Didn't you know that.

I'm not the one that denied ID is a religious theory. All along I have said it is creationism in disguise and not science.
Please show me where I suggested all religions spout ID or even all religious people support it.

He really is a devout atheist, almost missionary in his zeal. I think some holy book must have fallen on his head when he was younger. A koran to the cranium as it were.

Devout and proud. I state my view as you can see in my sig.

I point out the silliness of religion when RELIGIOUS people make their views public. I counter their views when they make them public. I don't care what religion they are.