New Evolution spat in U.S. schools goes to court

[Busyman]

I'm not the one that denied ID is a religious theory. All along I have said it is creationism in disguise and not science.
Please show me where I suggested all religions spout ID or even all religious people support it.

He really is a devout atheist, almost missionary in his zeal. I think some holy book must have fallen on his head when he was younger. A koran to the cranium as it were.

Devout and proud. I state my view as you can see in my sig.

I point out the silliness of religion when RELIGIOUS people make their views public. I counter their views when they make them public. I don't care what religion they are.

Hell you spout your religion more than probably anyone one here even sans the sig.

ID is not religious theory. It is a basic belief that an intelligent being started the universe and not that it just happpened.

I've always maintained that even if it is a guise by the religious right, it matters not one jot. It's fucking stupid for it to be science class. It could be that ID is true and so is evolution but only one of those has a basis in science.

It's quite simple.

Oh and vid, I only posted in your other thread when it was at the top....meaning right after you posted. That thread was a jab a religion Captain Obviously.

[j2k4]

I point out the silliness of religion when RELIGIOUS people make their views public. I counter their views when they make them public. I don't care what religion they are.

Would you care to parse your own post with an eye toward sharpening it's focus a wee tiny bit?

If I demonstrate graphically what I mean, you might feel bad, and I don't wish to give offense.

[vidcc]

ID is not religious theory.

Point me to one atheist that supports it and as you pointed out it's the religious (christian) right that are trying to get it into schools ( coincidence? )

[Busyman]

ID is not religious theory.

Point me to one atheist that supports it and as you pointed out it's the religious (christian) right that are trying to get it into schools ( coincidence? )

What does that hafta do with anything? I am religious and don't support it being in school. So what?

ID is not religion. Religious folk couple it with their own religion.

Not to hard to figure out.

[vidcc]

Point me to one atheist that supports it and as you pointed out it's the religious (christian) right that are trying to get it into schools ( coincidence? )

What does that hafta do with anything? I am religious and don't support it being in school. So what?

And...what's your point? Just because you are religious and don't follow it doesn't mean it is not a religious theory. Religious theory is any theory that is associated with any religion or religious belief. It doesn't need the support of every person that follows that religion


ID is not religion. Who said it was? I said it is a religious theory Religious folk couple it with their own religion.


Not to hard to figure out.

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[Busyman]

Religious theory is any theory that is associated with any religion or religious belief.

Ahhh so because the Christian right associated ID with their own beliefs, ID is inherently religious.

I don't understand how simply believing that the universe was designed by a being instead of it just happening is religious theory.

Read what religion is. It isn't just simply a belief in a higher power. Religious theory has the word religion in it.

A particular group's beliefs are not the beliefs of all. The basis of intelligent design belief is not tied to a particular religion no matter if it's followers believe in it or not.

I know plenty of folk who believe God started it all but that's the end of it.

[JPaul]

vidcc,

The thing is, you are a bigot, by any reasonable definition of the word. You have made that obvious by your persistent posting of anti-religious bile. The fact that it is not targeted at a specific religion makes not one jot of difference.

You are just as much a bigot as a Christian who attacks Islam. Or a Muslim who attacks Judaism. Or any person who arbitrarlly attacks the views of a group of people and who makes sweeping generalizations with regard to the members of the group they are attacking.

Please feel free to deny this, your posts are all there for chaps to read and make their own decision about. As are everyone else's, other than when they are deleted by half-wits.

[Busyman]

vidcc,

The thing is, you are a bigot, by any reasonable definition of the word. You have made that obvious by your persistent posting of anti-religious bile. The fact that it is not targeted at a specific religion makes not one jot of difference.

You are just as much a bigot as a Christian who attacks Islam. Or a Muslim who attacks Judaism. Or any person who arbitrarlly attacks the views of a group of people and who makes sweeping generalizations with regard to the members of the group they are attacking.

Please feel free to deny this, your posts are all there for chaps to read and make their own decision about. As are everyone else's, other than when they are deleted by half-wits.

On point.

[vidcc]

vidcc,

The thing is, you are a bigot, by any reasonable definition of the word. You have made that obvious by your persistent posting of anti-religious bile. The fact that it is not targeted at a specific religion makes not one jot of difference.

You are just as much a bigot as a Christian who attacks Islam. Or a Muslim who attacks Judaism. Or any person who arbitrarlly attacks the views of a group of people and who makes sweeping generalizations with regard to the members of the group they are attacking.

Please feel free to deny this, your posts are all there for chaps to read and make their own decision about. As are everyone else's, other than when they are deleted by half-wits.

It's well known that you don't debate the points but instead name call. Pots and kettles spring to mind

[JPaul]

Like I said, they can read yours and read mine. I have no problem with that.