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    When they start taxing sales generated through the internet at a state
    level, will your online purchasing habits change? Personally I buy a lot of
    things online specifically to avoid some if not all of the taxes. Does this
    make me a bad person? Is that considered "cheating" the system in your
    mind? What are your thoughts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaphometaS
    When they start taxing sales generated through the internet at a state
    level, will your online purchasing habits change? Personally I buy a lot of
    things online specifically to avoid some if not all of the taxes. Does this
    make me a bad person? Is that considered "cheating" the system in your
    mind? What are your thoughts...
    Hell, no.

    It makes you an upstanding American.


    I think some sort of taxation, or a hellacious effort at implementing same, will arise in the next few years, but unless it is enforceable at the state level (doubtful, ironically so because only the Feds have anything at all close to the technical ability to pull it off, and because a "states" effort would render something on the order of gasoline formulations-absolutely unworkable), it will be a huge farce.

    I wouldn't worry overmuch; not for the time being, anyway.

    Any successful plan would require first and foremost an agreement uniformly applicable on an interstate basis, and, as this would require Republicans and Democrats to agree on something...nah.
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    if the people in power stand to lose money if it doesn't get the go ahead, i imagine it's only a matter of time

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    Which state would collect the tax, the state the buyer was in, or the state the vendor was in.

    What if they are foreign, living in a foreign country.

    What if there is no similar tax in their state / country.

    It's a minefield I tells ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Which state would collect the tax, the state the buyer was in, or the state the vendor was in.

    What if they are foreign, living in a foreign country.

    What if there is no similar tax in their state / country.

    It's a minefield I tells ya.
    Preeeeeee-cisely!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Which state would collect the tax, the state the buyer was in, or the state the vendor was in.

    What if they are foreign, living in a foreign country.

    What if there is no similar tax in their state / country.

    It's a minefield I tells ya.
    The simplest way would be for ze state the vendor is in to collect ze tax.

    That would solve the whole conundrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Which state would collect the tax, the state the buyer was in, or the state the vendor was in.

    What if they are foreign, living in a foreign country.

    What if there is no similar tax in their state / country.

    It's a minefield I tells ya.
    The simplest way would be for ze state the vendor is in to collect ze tax.

    That would solve the whole conundrum.
    Nope.

    For such a plan to be successful, every state would have to agree to it, and that would never happen.

    The Fed would have nothing to do with enforcement if they weren't due a cut, and a National sales tax will never fly.

    The states would never agree to uniform collection, and if some did, affected vendors would re-locate to non-taxed states for competitive advantage.

    I don't think there are any "creative" solutions to the dilemma.

    Face it; if it were viable, it would be in place already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    The simplest way would be for ze state the vendor is in to collect ze tax.

    That would solve the whole conundrum.
    Nope.

    For such a plan to be successful, every state would have to agree to it, and that would never happen.

    The Fed would have nothing to do with enforcement if they weren't due a cut, and a National sales tax will never fly.

    The states would never agree to uniform collection, and if some did, affected vendors would re-locate to non-taxed states for competitive advantage.

    I don't think there are any "creative" solutions to the dilemma.

    Face it; if it were viable, it would be in place already.
    You just said nope to something else.

    We could go for forever with the if's. I answered JP's post nothing more. I could say that it would have to pass state legislation and it be a.....no shit sherlock.

    Let me rephrase...If all the damn states agree to tax the vendor located in that state then it would most definitely work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4

    Nope.

    For such a plan to be successful, every state would have to agree to it, and that would never happen.

    The Fed would have nothing to do with enforcement if they weren't due a cut, and a National sales tax will never fly.

    The states would never agree to uniform collection, and if some did, affected vendors would re-locate to non-taxed states for competitive advantage.

    I don't think there are any "creative" solutions to the dilemma.

    Face it; if it were viable, it would be in place already.
    You just said nope to something else.

    We could go for forever with the if's. I answered JP's post nothing more. I could say that it would have to pass state legislation and it be a.....no shit sherlock.

    Let me rephrase...If all the damn states agree to tax the vendor located in that state then it would most definitely work.

    Mmk?
    And it would have the effect of causing business migration to states that wouldn't tax.

    There would be quite a few of them, especially those considered to be more business-friendly than tax-hungry.

    I'll leave the phrasing as is.

    Mmk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    You just said nope to something else.

    We could go for forever with the if's. I answered JP's post nothing more. I could say that it would have to pass state legislation and it be a.....no shit sherlock.

    Let me rephrase...If all the damn states agree to tax the vendor located in that state then it would most definitely work.

    Mmk?
    And it would have the effect of causing business migration to states that wouldn't tax.

    There would be quite a few of them, especially those considered to be more business-friendly than tax-hungry.

    I'll leave the phrasing as is.

    Mmk?
    ...and you still don't get it. I'm not talking about the states that won't tax. I'm talking about the states in general.

    Answering.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    If all the damn states agree to tax the vendor located in that state then it would most definitely work.
    With....
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    And it would have the effect of causing business migration to states that wouldn't tax.
    ...is pure idiocy.
    Last edited by Busyman; 10-06-2005 at 01:11 AM.
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