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    Q: What outrages Joe Barton?

    A: The poor getting discount fuel.




    When oil prices were at an all time high, Citgo had the gaul to start a program that offered heating oil to the poor in the Northeast at rates up to 60% below market price. Citgo, and only Citgo, started an oil-for-the-poor program so those less fortunate than others could heat their home this winter

    Barton is demanding that Citgo produce all records, minutes, logs, e-mails and even desk calendars related to the program

    So while all the other oil companies were making record profits and consumers were wondering if there was price gouging, Barton goes after the one company that offered discounted oil to those who needed help the most this winter.


    Rep. Joe Barton, the powerful Texas Republican who is chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, launched a bizarre investigation last week into possible antitrust violations by a major oil company.

    You will be surprised to learn that Barton, one of the top recipients in Congress of campaign donations from the energy industry, is not probing whether ExxonMobil or Chevron or any of the other oil giants engaged in price gouging when gasoline and heating oil costs skyrocketed the past few years.

    No, the good congressman has set his sights on the only oil company that actually dared to lower its prices last year - at least for the poorest Americans.

    In a Feb. 15 letter to Citgo, the Houston-based company owned by the Venezuelan government, Barton demanded that company officials produce by tomorrow all records, minutes, logs, e-mails and even desk calendars related to Citgo's novel program of supplying discounted heating oil to low-income communities in the United States.

    The Citgo program, which kicked off late last year in Massachusetts and the South Bronx, provides oil at discounts as high as 60% off market price.

    Since its inception the program has expanded to low-income communities in Delaware, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Maine and Rhode Island. Local politicians, desperate for ways to reduce energy costs for their constituents, have welcomed it with open arms.

    Here in New York, Harlem Congressman Charles Rangel will soon announce an expansion of the Citgo program into upper Manhattan.

    All of this unexpected corporate philanthropy has made Barton and other House Republicans furious. Citgo's oil-for-the-poor program, after all, was the brainchild of Hugo Chavez, the fiery populist president of Venezuela who has become one of the most strident opponents of the Bush administration.

    "The bellicose Venezuelan decided to meddle in American energy policy, and we think it might prove instructive to know how," Larry Neal, deputy staff director for Barton's committee, said yesterday.

    Barton's letter lists a bunch of questions he wants Citgo to answer, including "how and why were the particular beneficiaries of this program selected" and whether the program "runs afoul of any U.S. laws, including but not limited to, antitrust laws."

    Rep. Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, is flabbergasted by Barton's investigation.

    "The Republicans are on another planet when it comes to energy policy," Markey said.

    Instead of doing something about skyrocketing oil prices, Markey said, the Republicans are probing "a charitable donation of heating oil to relieve the suffering of a few thousand American families."

    Barton, however, is not as nutty as he sounds.

    He is well aware that Citgo's limited discount program will have no influence on American energy policy. But it has created a huge public embarrassment for Barton's friends in the major oil companies, all of which recently announced record-shattering profits for 2005.

    ExxonMobil, for example, reported $36 billion in earnings last year. That's the largest profit ever recorded by any company in the history of modern commerce. It works out to an average of $98 million in profit for every day of last year.

    Oil profits have gotten so obscene that a lot of Americans are getting fed up, and pressure is mounting on Congress to do something.

    That's where Barton comes in. He's the closest thing on Capitol Hill to a mouthpiece for Big Oil.

    During the last election cycle, he was second only to fellow Texan Tom DeLay in the amount of oil industry contributions. During two decades in the House, Barton has raked in nearly $2 million in campaign donations from oil and electric companies.

    He is such a rabid defender of the energy industry that when a group of scientists issued a damning study last year about the growing danger of global warming, Barton immediately launched one of his shotgun investigations. He fired off letters to each of the scientists and demanded that they list all the sources of their funding and provide him with their research data and notes.

    Now Barton is after Citgo, the oil company that dared to do the unthinkable - lower oil prices for poor Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Q: What outrages Joe Barton?

    A: The poor getting discount fuel.




    When oil prices were at an all time high, Citgo had the gaul to start a program that offered heating oil to the poor in the Northeast at rates up to 60% below market price. Citgo, and only Citgo, started an oil-for-the-poor program so those less fortunate than others could heat their home this winter

    Barton is demanding that Citgo produce all records, minutes, logs, e-mails and even desk calendars related to the program

    So while all the other oil companies were making record profits and consumers were wondering if there was price gouging, Barton goes after the one company that offered discounted oil to those who needed help the most this winter.


    Rep. Joe Barton, the powerful Texas Republican who is chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, launched a bizarre investigation last week into possible antitrust violations by a major oil company.

    You will be surprised to learn that Barton, one of the top recipients in Congress of campaign donations from the energy industry, is not probing whether ExxonMobil or Chevron or any of the other oil giants engaged in price gouging when gasoline and heating oil costs skyrocketed the past few years.

    No, the good congressman has set his sights on the only oil company that actually dared to lower its prices last year - at least for the poorest Americans.

    In a Feb. 15 letter to Citgo, the Houston-based company owned by the Venezuelan government, Barton demanded that company officials produce by tomorrow all records, minutes, logs, e-mails and even desk calendars related to Citgo's novel program of supplying discounted heating oil to low-income communities in the United States.

    The Citgo program, which kicked off late last year in Massachusetts and the South Bronx, provides oil at discounts as high as 60% off market price.

    Since its inception the program has expanded to low-income communities in Delaware, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Maine and Rhode Island. Local politicians, desperate for ways to reduce energy costs for their constituents, have welcomed it with open arms.

    Here in New York, Harlem Congressman Charles Rangel will soon announce an expansion of the Citgo program into upper Manhattan.

    All of this unexpected corporate philanthropy has made Barton and other House Republicans furious. Citgo's oil-for-the-poor program, after all, was the brainchild of Hugo Chavez, the fiery populist president of Venezuela who has become one of the most strident opponents of the Bush administration.

    "The bellicose Venezuelan decided to meddle in American energy policy, and we think it might prove instructive to know how," Larry Neal, deputy staff director for Barton's committee, said yesterday.

    Barton's letter lists a bunch of questions he wants Citgo to answer, including "how and why were the particular beneficiaries of this program selected" and whether the program "runs afoul of any U.S. laws, including but not limited to, antitrust laws."

    Rep. Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, is flabbergasted by Barton's investigation.

    "The Republicans are on another planet when it comes to energy policy," Markey said.

    Instead of doing something about skyrocketing oil prices, Markey said, the Republicans are probing "a charitable donation of heating oil to relieve the suffering of a few thousand American families."

    Barton, however, is not as nutty as he sounds.

    He is well aware that Citgo's limited discount program will have no influence on American energy policy. But it has created a huge public embarrassment for Barton's friends in the major oil companies, all of which recently announced record-shattering profits for 2005.

    ExxonMobil, for example, reported $36 billion in earnings last year. That's the largest profit ever recorded by any company in the history of modern commerce. It works out to an average of $98 million in profit for every day of last year.

    Oil profits have gotten so obscene that a lot of Americans are getting fed up, and pressure is mounting on Congress to do something.

    That's where Barton comes in. He's the closest thing on Capitol Hill to a mouthpiece for Big Oil.

    During the last election cycle, he was second only to fellow Texan Tom DeLay in the amount of oil industry contributions. During two decades in the House, Barton has raked in nearly $2 million in campaign donations from oil and electric companies.

    He is such a rabid defender of the energy industry that when a group of scientists issued a damning study last year about the growing danger of global warming, Barton immediately launched one of his shotgun investigations. He fired off letters to each of the scientists and demanded that they list all the sources of their funding and provide him with their research data and notes.

    Now Barton is after Citgo, the oil company that dared to do the unthinkable - lower oil prices for poor Americans.
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    Great post, vid.

    Barton sounds like a total fuck-wit.

    I'm really liking this thread j2 started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Great post, vid.

    Barton sounds like a total fuck-wit.

    I'm really liking this thread j2 started.
    Actually I'm thinking J2 will be with me on this one. He is after all a strong believer in market forces.


    To Balance things out I think Clinton was an ass for the oil royalties payment waiver........... perhaps it had something to do with not taxing "gushers"
    Last edited by vidcc; 02-25-2006 at 01:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Great post, vid.

    Barton sounds like a total fuck-wit.

    I'm really liking this thread j2 started.
    Actually I'm thinking J2 will be with me on this one. He is after all a strong believer in market forces.


    To Balance things out I think Clinton was an ass for the oil royalties payment waiver........... perhaps it had something to do with not taxing "gushers"
    Explain your last, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Explain your last, please.
    The government may waive up to $7 billion in royalty payments from companies pumping oil and natural gas on federal territory in the next 5 years.

    The waiver started in 1996, when energy prices were low. Congress wanted to encourage more exploration and drilling in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

    So as an incentive the waiver was signed into law. The incentive IMO wasn't needed in the first place and certainly isn't needed when oil is at it's price today.

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    or did you mean explain clinton's "gusher"
    Last edited by vidcc; 02-25-2006 at 03:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Explain your last, please.
    The government may waive up to $7 billion in royalty payments from companies pumping oil and natural gas on federal territory in the next 5 years.

    The waiver started in 1996, when energy prices were low. Congress wanted to encourage more exploration and drilling in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

    So as an incentive the kickback was signed into law. The kickback IMO wasn't needed in the first place and certainly isn't needed when oil is at it's price today.

    edit:

    or did you mean explain clinton's "gusher"


    I made corrections in bold, pneub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman

    I made corrections in bold, pneub.
    Are you one of those left wing conspiracy making tin foil hatted activists

    I mean really, how could such a theory enter anyones head

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    It appears conservatives were right about the pointlessness of the UN and the weapons inspectors in Iraq. Well this particular inspector.......

    Bill Tierney, who served as a U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq in the late '90s, told National Review Online this week that he would look to God to direct him to possible WMD sites. "God is my intel," Tierney told NRO. His belief in the existence of a uranium-enrichment plant near Tarmiyah was supported, he said, by the fact that a friend had seen it in a dream.
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    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    It appears conservatives were right about the pointlessness of the UN and the weapons inspectors in Iraq. Well this particular inspector.......

    Bill Tierney, who served as a U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq in the late '90s, told National Review Online this week that he would look to God to direct him to possible WMD sites. "God is my intel," Tierney told NRO. His belief in the existence of a uranium-enrichment plant near Tarmiyah was supported, he said, by the fact that a friend had seen it in a dream.
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    How could the sectarian U.N. have failed to vet this fellow?

    They're usually so competent...
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    This must have been the point when saddam said "And they think the Middle East is full of religious nuts".

    I think just this alone would be justification to question the validity of the inspectors.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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