I'm constantly on the look-out for the dirt on Conservatives...

[j2k4]

Congratulations, Ian; you get it.

Point is, behaviors re: sex would change.

Vid thinks this cannot happen, especially the "less" part.

Over and out.

so you think beastiality and homsexuality will increase

Unfortunately we live in a world of realities and not fantasies.
contraception exists, it is safe and proven to all but remove the risk of unwanted pregnancy (nothing is 100% but it's as close to......). So your fantasy situation could only be achieved by making birth control illegal.

So here's some questions to you.

Will making contraception illegal reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies?

Will making contraception illegal reduce the amount of abortions?

or

Will making contraception more accesable reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies or abortions?




Social control of moral issues like private sex lives of consenting adults isn't an acceptable solution...... mind you I suppose it depends on if you are the controller or the controlled.

Still, remember the good old days when a single woman that got pregnant would be put in an insane asylum............ah those were the days

You miss the point again.

Behaviors-even those having to do with sexual urges/libido-are changeable.

You believe sexual behavior cannot be altered.

You are wrong.

Simple.

That was my only point...period.

BTW-as to your last:

Recount for me in detail the infamous history of pregnant single women being sent to insane asylums, please.

[j2k4]

J2 would you like to live in a world without contraception?

No, and I don't believe I have suggested I would.

I intended only the intellectual exercise of answering the question.

Please don't spoil your perfect score by failing to recognize the efficacy of my having done so.

[vidcc]

You miss the point again.

Behaviors-even those having to do with sexual urges/libido-are changeable.

You believe sexual behavior cannot be altered.

You are wrong.

Simple.

That was my only point...period.

ok so put your theory into reality and answer my questions. You appear to think that making birth control hard to get ( you must be making this point as we all know it exists) will change sexual habits.
will it reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortions or will they increase? real life, society today
remember...nearly all unwanted pregnancies result from not using birth control.

BTW-as to your last:

Recount for me in detail the infamous history of pregnant single women being sent to insane asylums, please.

http://www.correctionhistory.org/htm...ay/albion.html

http://osulibrary.oregonstate.edu/video/soc1.html

Sex in a Cold Climate

VHS
50 minutes
HV1448 .G72 I737 2003

This historical documentary is a deeply disturbing portrait of Magdalene Asylums run by Catholic nuns in Ireland. For over a hundred years girls and young women were sent to live and work in the Magdalene Asylums' Laundries after they'd had sexual or 'sinful' contact with men. Of the 30,000 women who were imprisoned in them, many never got out. The last one didn't close until 1996. The video features interviews with several women detained in Magdalene Asylums between the 1940s and the 1960s. The purpose of the Asylums - named after the repentant biblical prostitute Mary Magdalene - was to correct the supposed sexual deviance of young women. Getting pregnant out of wedlock and having an illegitimate baby, like Christina Mulcahy, made you an obvious candidate. But the criteria of deviance was so vague and wide ranging that some Magdalenes didn't know why they had been put away. Phyllis Valentine was sent there because she was considered "too pretty" and therefore a moral danger to herself and others. Martha Cooney was put away after she complained that a cousin had sexually molested her. The Asylums were often run by abusive and even sadistic nuns. All the women featured eventually escaped, but the emotional and physical strain these Magdalenes had to endure led to damaged lives.

Actually harder than I expected to find a actual historical site on the subject worldwide. I shall try rephrasing later or you could research a bit yourself...it's actually interesting and I am amazed you have never heard of such practices.

[j2k4]

Actually, I was aware of that, however peripherally; remember, I have some educational background in corrections.

Are you trying to connect modern Conservatism to Public policy in Ireland and a facility in upstate New York which accomodated pregnant women around WWI?

Quite a stretch, I'd say.

We could explore the historical connections between the Democratic Party and the Ku Klux Klan, too, if you'd like.

[vidcc]

so you are not going to answer the questions then

[j2k4]

so you are not going to answer the questions then

Which questions would these be?

[vidcc]

so you are not going to answer the questions then

Which questions would these be?

[j2k4]

These?

So here's some questions to you.

Will making contraception illegal reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies?

I doubt it.

Who wants to make it illegal?

Will making contraception illegal reduce the amount of abortions?

What if abortion is illegal?

or

Will making contraception more accesable reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies or abortions?

Availability, generally speaking, will reduce those numbers.

Availability to whom, and by what method, are also questions to be answered.

WTF is wrong with these controls?

This sucks...

[j2k4]

so you are not going to answer the questions then

Why don't you re-read this page and answer a few questions yourself?

[vidcc]

These?

So here's some questions to you.

Will making contraception illegal reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies?

I doubt it.

Who wants to make it illegal?
that is the only way to place your fantasy about birth control not existing into a reality
Will making contraception illegal reduce the amount of abortions?

What if abortion is illegal?
answer the question with an answer please
or

Will making contraception more accesable reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies or abortions?

Availability, generally speaking, will reduce those numbers.
So the Missouri bill is in fact more likely to increase the number of unwanted pregnancies....
Availability to whom, and by what method, are also questions to be answered.

WTF is wrong with these controls?

This sucks...

So the man that suggests removing the FDA and letting market forces deal with medications is for controls