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    You may or may not know that I am not a Christian,I quite happily celebrate xmas as it coincides with my beliefs.
    At the moment in Britain we have a form of political correctness gone mad,
    one example http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2596703.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/4398680.stm
    and another one.
    What I'm asking is,do people of other faiths find Christian xmas offensive,if this lunacy persists there will generations growing up in Britain who will grow up with hard feelings against relegions who are doing nothing to promote it
    From personal experience a lot of Hindus and Muslims that I know welcome it,especially from a profit point of view.

    All spelling mistakes and grammatical errors in my post's are intentional.

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    Labour peer Lord Ahmed, one of the country's most prominent Muslim politicians, told the Daily Mail newspaper it was "stupid" to think Muslims would be offended.

    He added: "The Muslim community has been talking to Christians for the past 1,400 years.

    "The teachings from Islam are that you should respect other faiths."
    Word.

    Christmas has been a prominent feature for many many years, why bring this up now?? It's like you're not even allowed to celebrate anything anymore in case it offends someone.

    I read a story a few years back about a local council forcibly removing a local's UK flag from their porch as it may offend local residents.

    Funny thing is, you never hear about this sort of stuff happening anywhere else in the world like the US, or the Middle East.

    Every other country can display national pride in any way shape or form, but when it comes to the UK, so much political correctness goes on as to not offend anyone it's crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gripper103.2
    At the moment in Britain we have a form of political correctness gone mad,
    one example http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2596703.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/4398680.stm
    and another one.
    What I'm asking is,do people of other faiths find Christian xmas offensive,if this lunacy persists...
    at the moment? didn't the same political correctness run mad at last year's moment, too, prompting The Sun to launch its "Save Our Christmas" campaign which included sending a nativity scene touring on the back of a truck? i wonder if they succeeded in saving christmas.

    ALSO: i think the real threat to holidays is not from mean politically correct meanies who wish to ban them all and stamp a bar-code on everyone's forehead... rather the fact that every religious/social/etc holiday & observance in certain countries (ahem) is eventually taken over by commerce and turned into a capitalist holiday. i.e. "your celebration isn't up to snuff, unless you go out and spend heaps of cash on gifts & decorations associated with it. no it is not alright to make your own stuff for the holidays. spend more money, NOW."

    also also: "happy holidays." is it offensive? or just "dumb," as one christian leader calls it?
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    Whoever gets offended by Christmas is an idiot.

    Don't celebrate it.

    Christmas isn't a religious holiday anyway. It's a commercial feces holiday.

    The last thousand or so times I heard Christmas mentioned, Jesus wasn't. However, shopping, gifts, and presents were mentioned.

    If one is offended by the commercialism of it, don't buy gifts or add Jesus into your ceremonies.

    People are offended too much and need to be offended alone. No need to spread their shit to others.
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    It seems to me that it is only Christian festivals that are attacked in this way in the UK. I have not seen any similar restrictions for the Diwalli, or Ramadan or Hanukkah....

    Someone please correct me if I am wrong on this as I haven't bothered to Google but if I am right, then PC only seems to work in one direction. I am an agnostic btw so I am happy to sit on the fence regarding the validity of any religion, festival or whatever....each to their own and all that.

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    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

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    man, i'd celebrate ramadan if i had someone to celebrate it with. don't believe in any religions but i believe in having fun.

    my point? i dunno. nobody is offended by any others customs. being intolerant of another religion is intolerance we won't tolerate, because we don't tolerate intolerance in this country. or at least we aren't supposed to

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    I'd have a few beers with you for Ramadan!

    Maybe a barbeque...

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    This is my point exactly,try walking into the middle of Leicester on Dwalli and tell them to stop because it offends you,you'd have a riot on you're hands.
    But us British we quite happily sit back and allow stupid beuracrats to whittle away at things that make us a nation.
    It also plays right into the hands of racists and thugs who use it as an excuse to attack racially different people.
    Like Dave says if theres a celebration going on,I'm up for it,don't care what we're celebrating as long as everyones enjoying themselves,far to much negativity going round.
    As for the commercial side...I'm leaving that one well alone

    All spelling mistakes and grammatical errors in my post's are intentional.

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    well, re: england, specifically. england does have an official state religion. until the gov't removes the church of england's official status, i'm not sure why there should be any controversy about christianity's right to go wherever it pleases.

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