Like "eggplant", what kind of tit would do that.
One that has never seen an egg I suspectOriginally Posted by JPaul
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Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum
Theo is a marter, he died because he defended the freedom of speech and that did cost him his life.Originally Posted by j2k4
You refer to 'there was a letter' as if that was his way to express freedom of speech. Wich is right. The guy went wrong by taking away Theo his right of freedom of speech by killing him.
The last part i stated what i believe. Dialogue stopped, violence took it's place. Most of the time to stop some one saying what you don't like to hear.
Which is (and always has been) my point.Originally Posted by jetje
If it is true the vast majority of Muslims do not believe Islam sanctions such violence, where are they hiding?
"Official" Islam (CAIR, et. al.) are mysteriously silent...
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
How are they hiding? I regularly hear ordinary Muslims condemning terrorist tactics on the news.
CAIR have this linked to on their front page.
The voices may not be as loud as you would like (though some would argue that has a lot to do with lack of media attention), but to call them hiding or silent is unfair.
If I were an ordinary Muslim, I would like to see a SINGLE demonstration espousing the message of peace, which is the literal translation of the word "Islam".The publication of cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad continued to send shock waves around the world Friday as protesters set fire to the Italian consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and clashed with police hours after an Islamic cleric in Pakistan offered a $1 million reward for killing one of the cartoonists
If you believe that you are bound for eternal paradise because of your faith in Islam, shouldn't that be enough?
I am not Christian, but they are taught to love their enemies. When someone speaks against God, they feel sorrow that that person has wandered from the path of salvation.
They don't want to kill him, but rather to love him and help to return him to God.
How many were killed in America because of the "artistic" exhibit of Christ in urine and the Virgin Mary depicted with elephant shit?
If someone defames your prophet through a cartoon, shouldn't your response be, like the Christian one, sadness for a person who has lost touch with God.
You should want to counsel him, to instruct him, to heal him, NOT behead him.
Anger, to me, reflects fear that any alternative perspective will undermine the faith of a programmed society and weaken the control a fundamentalist government has over it's citizens.
This is not about God, but about humans and control.
Ordinary Muslims should be screaming pity and forgiveness. I see none of this.
As I have said before, when words (Islam=peace) are not followed by action, they are just meaningless symbols on a piece of paper.
Oh, and the Danish government has zero responsibility to offer an apology because they are a tolerant nation that allows freedom of speech and the press.
Last edited by hobbes; 02-18-2006 at 03:32 AM.
Aren't we in the trust tree, thingey?
Tell that to this womanOriginally Posted by hobbes
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Nah, I get what you're saying, but I have a couple of Muslim friends and if you told them they should be "screaming pity and forgiveness" they'd tell you to piss off. That may not please you but not every Muslim feels responsible for what happened in New York, London Madrid etc.
what a freakOriginally Posted by Skillian
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Originally Posted by hobbes
Good points, well made.
There was a peaceful protest in London. Which expressed it's dislike of the cartoons, but also said that the violent reaction was totally wrong.
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