I like that sentence very muchly.Originally Posted by Cheese
Congratulations.
I like that sentence very muchly.Originally Posted by Cheese
Congratulations.
Good for them. It is a shame that this side of the story gets underplayed.Originally Posted by JPaul
I think it is perfectly reasonable to be angry with the cartoons, and people should have the right to express this anger via peaceful protest. These protests are good things that sort of educate citizens about sensitivities that they might not otherwise have been aware of.
Aren't we in the trust tree, thingey?
I guess what I am objecting to most is the lack of utter disavowal of these miscreants and their actions by their religious brethren.
The most your average Muslim seems compelled to say is he/she doesn't "agree" with the violence or those who perpetrate it.
Historically such sociological pustules are shunned and isolated unto immateriality and eventual non-existence.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
The reaction to the cartoons is incomprehensible to the average citizen of the West.
The peaceful demonstration today was far more restrained and sensible but it is difficult to determine what they hope to achieve. I don't think people in the West ever really thought that this would be an issue on this scale. Those that dislike Muslims (or least the radical brand that gets most air-time) are going to be mass producing Prophet cartoons from here in.
At the end of the day, I have no problem treating other religions with respect but rather than doing a Foamy the Squirrel about Danish cartoonists would they not do better to search their own souls regarding why Islam is held in such disregard? There is a feeling, perhaps fuelled by the media, that Bin Laden and chums are actually held in some esteem and that many (not all) Muslims cheerlead from the sidelines when an attrocity is carried out.
I think it will be some time before the scars on both sides heal over this and that Islam will be regarded with suspicion in the West for a long time.
I have seen the scary woman clip before - it is one of SGGs favourites. A truly strange woman. I felt sorry for the kids who looked genuinely disturbed by their mother's rant. Religion/Superstition - is it all one?
Last edited by Biggles; 02-18-2006 at 07:34 PM.
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum
Originally Posted by JPaul
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No it isn't but some appear to be unaware of this.
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum
It just depends what one believes in I suppose. However the thing which really confuses me is how different groups of the same religion can have such differing views on it's teaching.Originally Posted by Biggles
One group seems to say it's OK, in fact obligatory, to kill those who insult their Prophet. Another preaches that non-violent protest is the way to go. So people who are confused by this tend to see the side which wants to kill them as being representative. That's human nature I s'pose.
That is an awesome, awesome clip.Originally Posted by Cheese
It got even better 'cos I'd played around with my sound settings before I saw that, thus giving the sound of it a more metallic, ominous feel.
At first I forgot I'd done that, so I reckoned that was intentional.
Midway-through I was laughing.
She says she'll pray for them tho', doesn't she?![]()
has anyone here studied islam (outside of media)?
Originally Posted by Skillian
All Christians are like that, why single her out![]()
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