boycotts of Danish goods in middle East!

[Busyman]

Double Standards? Sure.

As a member of Amnesty International I frequently object to what's often going on in muslim countries and especially in countries with "muslim laws".

However, wouldn't I be accused of double standards if I were to deny them their right to object in this case? Sure, some individuals choose to object in a violent way which is completely unacceptable... but as long as their objections are within reason I have no problem with that.

How can they be denied the right to object?

It's their low-level thinking that people have a problem with....they can still think that way.

It's that low-level thinking that leads to violence. It's like they are fucking stupid or something.

[JPaul]

Double Standards? Sure.

As a member of Amnesty International I frequently object to what's often going on in muslim countries and especially in countries with "muslim laws".

However, wouldn't I be accused of double standards if I were to deny them their right to object in this case? Sure, some individuals choose to object in a violent way which is completely unacceptable... but as long as their objections are within reason I have no problem with that.

Object yes, couldn't agree more. However what of economic sanctions and withdrawal of diplomats.

That goes beyond simply objection, that causes economic damage to the other country. Possibly people losing their jobs.

That is not simply objecting, that is causing direct and measurable damage to another nation and to it's citizens.

[true_neo]

Danish people and Norwegians must die.

its our choice if we choose to stop a certin thing, isnt that a freedom of act?
now tell me how the fuck freedom of speech is fair to you but freedom of act is not.
we dont like to do this but when west's dont care about us and they dont listen to us we must goto this kind of alternative action's.
like france cencoring the right of a muslim laidy of wearing her hejab(scarf), how would u feel if hejab was compulsory here even to non muslims?
all am saying when justise can be made by peace we have alternative ways and its our choice to boyccotts some thing.

So burning our flags and threatening to kill our people is considered freedom of act? And here I was thinking I lived in a civilized world.... Oh well.
I don't give a shit that YOU say you don't condone of the killing and whatnot, SOMEONE does. And they obviously believe that pictures are more worth than a human life.
The Islamic religion is humanely flawed on so many points its taking the piss.
We even had a couple of Muslims in religion class DEFEND suicide bombers, and one of them even tried to blame 9/11 on the JEWS. Yeah thats right, Im not making this up. Half of our class gave him a dumb look and the other half burst into laughter.

That's the fucking problem.

You just grouped entire nations based on what a newspaper published.

Then you issue fucking fatwahs based on the same shit.

So you not only boycott a nations goods based on a newspaper article, which although I find stupid, it's your right. You then make those folk targets for assassination.

Until you so-called Muslims change your stilted view then fuck off.

When I studied Islam way back, my uncle warned me about The Nation Of Islam and enlightened thinkers like yourself.

..and if the west has a stilted view of folks like yourself, blame 9-11. You have never had such a backlash in the modern era until then. You sympathize with terrorists.

You have an institution of hate. The most ubiquitous remark, "I don't condone 9-11 but I understand why they did it."

They are fucking idiots. They killed other Muslims that day.

Nice going.

Truth++;

no am not talking off my ass like you, check that last poll of danish people regarding this matter, over 80% people said not to opologize for making thoes cartoon, what u say about that, i say they all think same but to cover the matter up they use the "F"(freedom) word, again i say freedom is not to disrespet others moral and beliving values.

Of course we shouldn't apologise, and I will curse [insert name of deity you believe in here] for letting the Socialists win the election if the Norwegian government does apologise. (Btw I voted for the other side).
If we apologise, we will effectively tell the Islamic world that they control us. We will tell them that they can enforce whatever values and beliefs they want on us, and we will say "Yes. Ok, sure.". Which is something I don't want to live to see. Already there are mosques (or however) in Oslo and the people there have to suffer prayer shoutings all over town every day. At one point, some Imam said the following: "Why should we learn Norwegian law? The Norwegians should learn about Islam". Wtf?
I had this convo with a Muslim on MSN today, and he said this: Denmark should safe gaurd the rights of the religious minorities". Also wtf? Because Muslims are soo damn touchy that they start razing all kinds of shit the moment someone has abit of fun with them?
In Norway we have fanatic Christians, but they don't go around pulling crap like this whenever they hear someone badmouth God, Jesus or The Holy Ghost.

To all the Muslims that were offended: Welcome to the West, and Get Over It.

[ahctlucabbuS]

Object yes, couldn't agree more. However what of economic sanctions and withdrawal of diplomats.

That goes beyond simply objection, that causes economic damage to the other country. Possibly people losing their jobs.

That is not simply objecting, that is causing direct and measurable damage to another nation and to it's citizens.

Yes, economic sanctions and freezing out entire countries because of it is drastic and probably wrong.

What I've tried to argue was that printing the pictures were unnecessary, their response equally so.

[Busyman]

Object yes, couldn't agree more. However what of economic sanctions and withdrawal of diplomats.

That goes beyond simply objection, that causes economic damage to the other country. Possibly people losing their jobs.

That is not simply objecting, that is causing direct and measurable damage to another nation and to it's citizens.

Yes, economic sanctions and freezing out entire countries because of it is drastic and probably wrong.

What I've tried to argue was that printing the pictures were unnecessary, their response equally so.

Who controls what's necessary?

I guess the movie "Comedy In the Muslim World" should have never been made.

I'd tell any Muslim to NOT look at the pictures then and fuck off.
Don't buy the newspaper.

Who the fuck are they that everyone else can be joked about but their Go....excuse me, ONE of their prophets cannot.

They need to worship, boycott THE OFFENDING party, and STFU.

"Don't come 'round popping guns off and shit 'cause they feel disrespected yo."

Some ole high school shit.

If they're so offended. get their own shit together within their religion 'cause the perception given off is bound to rear it's head in the form of illustrations and the spoken and written word.

[JPaul]

I think the fact the their spiritual leader (Ayatollah Khomeini) demanded that Salman Rushdie and his publishers be murdered because of a book he wrote, sort of says it all.

It appears it's not just spiritual leaders either, in 1997 the highest Iranian state prosecutor Morteza Moqtadale renewed the death sentence.

There have also been rewards offered for his death, $2,000,000 US I believe.

Rushdie has publicly apologised and reaffirmed his respect for Islam. This does not seem to have had any effect on those who demand his murder.

[maebach]

its our choice if we choose to stop a certin thing, isnt that a freedom of act?
now tell me how the fuck freedom of speech is fair to you but freedom of act is not.
we dont like to do this but when west's dont care about us and they dont listen to us we must goto this kind of alternative action's.
like france cencoring the right of a muslim laidy of wearing her hejab(scarf), how would u feel if hejab was compulsory here even to non muslims?
all am saying when justise can be made by peace we have alternative ways and its our choice to boyccotts some thing.

So burning our flags and threatening to kill our people is considered freedom of act? And here I was thinking I lived in a civilized world.... Oh well.
I don't give a shit that YOU say you don't condone of the killing and whatnot, SOMEONE does. And they obviously believe that pictures are more worth than a human life.
The Islamic religion is humanely flawed on so many points its taking the piss.
We even had a couple of Muslims in religion class DEFEND suicide bombers, and one of them even tried to blame 9/11 on the JEWS. Yeah thats right, Im not making this up. Half of our class gave him a dumb look and the other half burst into laughter.

That's the fucking problem.

You just grouped entire nations based on what a newspaper published.

Then you issue fucking fatwahs based on the same shit.

So you not only boycott a nations goods based on a newspaper article, which although I find stupid, it's your right. You then make those folk targets for assassination.

Until you so-called Muslims change your stilted view then fuck off.

When I studied Islam way back, my uncle warned me about The Nation Of Islam and enlightened thinkers like yourself.

..and if the west has a stilted view of folks like yourself, blame 9-11. You have never had such a backlash in the modern era until then. You sympathize with terrorists.

You have an institution of hate. The most ubiquitous remark, "I don't condone 9-11 but I understand why they did it."

They are fucking idiots. They killed other Muslims that day.

Nice going.

Truth++;

no am not talking off my ass like you, check that last poll of danish people regarding this matter, over 80% people said not to opologize for making thoes cartoon, what u say about that, i say they all think same but to cover the matter up they use the "F"(freedom) word, again i say freedom is not to disrespet others moral and beliving values.

Of course we shouldn't apologise, and I will curse [insert name of deity you believe in here] for letting the Socialists win the election if the Norwegian government does apologise. (Btw I voted for the other side).
If we apologise, we will effectively tell the Islamic world that they control us. We will tell them that they can enforce whatever values and beliefs they want on us, and we will say "Yes. Ok, sure.". Which is something I don't want to live to see. Already there are mosques (or however) in Oslo and the people there have to suffer prayer shoutings all over town every day. At one point, some Imam said the following: "Why should we learn Norwegian law? The Norwegians should learn about Islam". Wtf?
I had this convo with a Muslim on MSN today, and he said this: Denmark should safe gaurd the rights of the religious minorities". Also wtf? Because Muslims are soo damn touchy that they start razing all kinds of shit the moment someone has abit of fun with them?
In Norway we have fanatic Christians, but they don't go around pulling crap like this whenever they hear someone badmouth God, Jesus or The Holy Ghost.

To all the Muslims that were offended: Welcome to the West, and Get Over It.

I actually read all of that.

Interesting thoughts. A bit strong, but my dad and I have very strict thoughts about immigrants and religions. My dad and I disagree with refugee's and how they live on taxes. I dont mind refugees, but they disagree and complain which I cant understand. I mean, we pay for you, we're helping you, but your telling everyone (police/press) that we're racists and dont respect their religion/culture. If we're so mean to you, GO HOME! Even Indian immigrants who dont care about Canada piss me off. Our family has struggled alot in Canada and UK, but we pulled through without help. My grandparent's convenient store use to get robbed here, in the UK, their car's were scratched/keyed. People have it easier now and they dont respect shit.

arab's who praise terrorism and spreading islam everywhere can f*ck themselves.

[Busyman]

Fucking hive of hypocrites!!!

I'm watching ABC News and it showed huge groups of Middle Easterners firing guns in the air and burning Denmark's flag and shit.

From German paper Die Welt...

"When Syrian television showed drama documentaries in prime time depicting rabbis as cannibals, the imams were quiet."

From a Middle Eastern passerby....

"We all must be aggressive, kind of aggressive against these people."

[Busyman]

yeh thats why it efficts reached norwagian, french, Ispanish, UK, Italia and many other Europian newspapers, they all re-posted the same cartoons. now how in the hell u say not all western think same, they all are trying to hurt our feelings, one can be mistake two also can be but 3rd wont be a mistake its on purpose.
btw french newspaper owner fired his GM for reposting it.

I hope every fucking paper publishes those pics so you can wage war against the entire world...oh wait.

Oh looky here..it seems every fucking newspaper IS showing the pics (at least 'peon papers are). The ABC News I just watched showed it. (go TV)

One French paper (the one where the fella was fired) had on it's front page, "Yes We Have The Right To Caricature A God."

Looks like the world is your enemy, Bawa. Maybe you lot can kill somore American.....Muslims.

Fucking beehive twats. You are disturbed indeed.

[JPaul]

Fucking hive of hypocrites!!!

I'm watching ABC News and it showed huge groups of Middle Easterners firing guns in the air and burning Denmark's flag and shit.

From German paper Die Welt...

"When Syrian television showed drama documentaries in prime time depicting rabbis as cannibals, the imams were quiet."

From a Middle Eastern passerby....

"We all must be aggressive, kind of aggressive against these people."

You agree there may be a wee bit of double standards here then.