there is no god
Could you please explain the difference between this statement of intent and the intent of the christian mission...to convert those that haven't already to accept christ as the savior?Originally Posted by j2k4
Obviously the person that made this statement is not a "moderate" so the explaination needs to be a "like for like" so feel free to give me the pat robertson or jerry falwell version
Last edited by vidcc; 02-05-2006 at 07:22 PM.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
en(un)lightened
Did you read the quote?Could you please explain the difference between this statement of intent and the intent of the christian mission...to convert those that haven't already to accept christ as the savior?
The difference?
Does modern Christianity preach it intends to be "the only accepted religion on earth"?
Do you not regard this as a difference?
Obviously the person that made this statement is not a "moderate" so the explaination needs to be a "like for like" so feel free to give me the pat robertson or jerry falwell version
It came from the lips of Omar Ahmad, THE CHAIRMAN OF C.A.I.R., WHICH IS THE LARGEST REPRESENTATIVE ORGANIZATION OF ISLAM IN NORTH AMERICA. IT CAN SAFELY BE SAID HE SPEAKS FOR "OFFICIAL" ISLAM ON THIS CONTINENT.
This is much more than can be said about Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, or even Jesse Jackson, vid.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
Fat Secret Agent
The thing is j2, we used to kill people who wouldn't convert to Christianity, however we stopped doing that because it was wrong. P'raps in the fullness of time others will feel the same way p'raps not. P'raps they will learn that others have the right to choose their own path and indeed that there may be more than one path to the same end.
That being said, we did it to people who were weaker than us and couldn't do much about it. I feel confident that we can protect out right to live in a World where people can make choices for themselves. Feck we even defend the rights of people who would remove that very right. Which is really quite weird.
It is our very defence of liberty, that allows them to try to remove ours.
Team FST Captain
I was watching the news, and they showed, that musilim owned grocery stores here have signs showing that they do not carry products from Denmark. We cant blame only the muslims in ME, most have the same thoughts, very few said the disagree. Many people have the same thoughts, some are a bit severer (sp?)compared to others. This morning, while watching FOX, Juan Williams (I think hes a political analyst for some paper in the US) said something like if a religionmust fuss about something shows signs of it being a weak religion. I'll try finding the exact quote.
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Poster
Wow have you guys seen this?
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004448.htm
Outrageous..
there is no god
Yes I did read the quote, and I am sure it would take me very little time to come up with many almost exact quotes from American christian "leaders". The fact that you feel islam and christianity are organised differently and that the likes of falwell don't speak for you (yet obviously this guy speaks for all muslims) is not material to the case.Did you read the quote?
Could you please explain the difference between this statement of intent and the intent of the christian mission...to convert those that haven't already to accept christ as the savior?
The difference?
Does modern Christianity preach it intends to be "the only accepted religion on earth"?
Do you not regard this as a difference?
Obviously the person that made this statement is not a "moderate" so the explaination needs to be a "like for like" so feel free to give me the pat robertson or jerry falwell version
It came from the lips of Omar Ahmad, THE CHAIRMAN OF C.A.I.R., WHICH IS THE LARGEST REPRESENTATIVE ORGANIZATION OF ISLAM IN NORTH AMERICA. IT CAN SAFELY BE SAID HE SPEAKS FOR "OFFICIAL" ISLAM ON THIS CONTINENT.
This is much more than can be said about Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, or even Jesse Jackson, vid.
What could be more American than the president? yet I doubt you felt Clinton spoke for your America most of the time.
Even without the extremist like falwell the sole intent of a missionary to convert others is in itself an attempt at sole domination.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
Fat Secret Agent
The important point is how one goes about it. See my last.Yes I did read the quote, and I am sure it would take me very little time to come up with many almost exact quotes from American christian "leaders". The fact that you feel islam and christianity are organised differently and that the likes of falwell don't speak for you (yet obviously this guy speaks for all muslims) is not material to the case.
What could be more American than the president? yet I doubt you felt Clinton spoke for your America most of the time.
Even without the extremist like falwell the sole intent of a missionary to convert others is in itself an attempt at sole domination.
I have no problem with you trying to convince me that God doesn't exist, by reasoned argument. It would piss me off if you tried to do it by offering violence.
there is no god
You are talking about extremists, which are NOT the majority of religious people no matter how it is framed.
it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.
re-member
BT Rep: +1
... most of these people are not intellectuals, so a reasoned argument is highly unlikely. In fact a reasoned argument would probably cost you your life.
Looking ahead, the solution to the "Islamic" problem, for future generations, is probably to ensure that the Islamic youth, receive an adequate education, so that they actually understand what they are reading in the Koran.
Fat Secret Agent
Indeed, Christian fundamentalists are sometimes really harsh with the words they use.You are talking about extremists, which are NOT the majority of religious people no matter how it is framed.
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