boycotts of Danish goods in middle East!

[Busyman]

You think gay bashing has to do with religion?

So you don't think gays get bashed because they have been persecuted by christians/(insert various religions here) for a quite a while and people still think of it as the norm.

seems this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion people are dying and building are burning over a cartoon.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4684652.stm

I purposely left out the words always or most of time.

So you don't think gays get bashed because they are simply different?

I don't often hear of clergymen calling for gay bashing.

[vidcc]

So you think it's rare to see reports of abortion clinic attacks or attacks on people that work there, attacks on gay bars etc. etc. ? You haven't heard of the resistance to having a specific "hate crime" catergory that includes attacks on homosexuals?

You think gay bashing has to do with religion?

Oh I don't know...perhaps the statements of the perpertrators when caught might give you a clue as to their motives Some have nothing to do with religious beliefs some have everything to do with them.

One example just off the top of my head .......Eric Rudolph.
So now hate crimes are religiously motivated?

Some are, not all

If I beat up the white fella 'cause he's white, it was actually 'cause he's unChristian...

WTF are you talking about? do you honestly believe that there is just one catergory for "hate crimes".

[4play]

So you don't think gays get bashed because they are simply different?

I don't often hear of clergymen calling for gay bashing.

gays get bashed because they are different, but religion is defiently a factor in some cases.

I have not heard of any clergymen calling for bashing gays but i have heard plenty of them saying its a sin, gay marriages should not be allowed and so forth. its not really a freedom loving attitude.

[Busyman]

vid and 4play, I direct you to post 171. It's like on this very page and stuff.

[Busyman]

So you don't think gays get bashed because they are simply different?

I don't often hear of clergymen calling for gay bashing.

gays get bashed because they are different, but religion is defiently a factor in some cases.

I have not heard of any clergymen calling for bashing gays but i have heard plenty of them saying its a sin, gay marriages should not be allowed and so forth. its not really a freedom loving attitude.

Sooo?

So is stealing, fornication, drunkeness, lying, and so forth.

[Barbarossa]

Where are they getting all these Danish flags from to burn? It's not the sort of thing that you'd think alot of middle-easterners would have lying around.

Is there a warehouse in Mecca or somewhere that stocks all the flags of the world, just in case some emergency flag-burning needs to take place?

[4play]

true but there are laws against some of those which are generally accepted by the population to be needed. stealing for example.

the problem here is that if the church is telling people gays are evil in some way its alot harder to convince law makers that its generally accepted that gay marriage is fine.

[Busyman]

true but there are laws against some of those which are generally accepted by the population to be needed. stealing for example.

the problem here is that if the church is telling people gays are evil in some way its alot harder to convince law makers that its generally accepted that gay marriage is fine.

I think people look at it differently. The church is not as powerful at 'causing violence as it is in the ME.

[Snee]

Where are they getting all these Danish flags from to burn? It's not the sort of thing that you'd think alot of middle-easterners would have lying around.

Is there a warehouse in Mecca or somewhere that stocks all the flags of the world, just in case some emergency flag-burning needs to take place?

If I was of a more suspicious persuasion, I'd wonder about that, and I'd wonder about why it took so long for all of these protests to start. I mean, the timespan between the cartoons getting published, and the people to react, might be significant.

I might wonder why this started now, and what organisations have something to gain by drawing everyone's attention to this, and by actively condemning it and thus showing initiative. Is there an election coming up? Or has someone, or some organisation, fallen out of favour, prompting some posturing against the western world?

I might say that things like the flags turning up, for instance, might point to someone having planned it out for maximum effect.

I think behaving like a xenophobiac fascist fucktard fundamentalist doesn't come natural for most of the people down there, or anywhere, and it seems odd to me that the quotient of people behaving as such suddenly has gone up.

[JPaul]

Yeah, Muslims (particularly fundamentalists) are know for their tolerance, especially towards gay people.

Therefore violent attacks on gays are made by middle class, middle aged regular Church go-ers. Not by mindless thugs who are described as Christians and who never actually have a Christian thought in their head or visit a Church.