The best British county

[DorisInsinuate]

Glag.

I worked for DEFRA for a bit. I'm hoping bird AiDs comes to England, so I can a summer job there again. Also so a bunch of gits will die.

[Buffalo]

Nice one Doris,
I had a major run in with MAFF in 2000, I could not achieve my quota, so they revoked my Licence on my fishing vessel.
are you operator 159? ... she was nice and helpful

[DorisInsinuate]

No, but I called up a farmer and ended up pissing him off. I don't think karma has forgiven me for that.

[meirionwyllt]

I'm sorry but I'll have to pick you up on almost every thing you said there...

However, you seemed to be under the misapprehension that Welsh people don't want anything to do with the English people. Which seems odd as I'm sure there was a referendum back when I was too young to vote and we decided to stay part of the UK.

It depends which ones you speak to. True we did vote quite convincingly against devolution in 1979 but I feel it is only now that us Welsh are starting to nurture self-belief. The iron fist of previous Tory goverments have had such a tight grip on our country that it has made us insitutionalised, and has convinced many Welsh people that we could not govern ourselves - which is nonsense since there are many small countries in Europe that have boomed (relatively speaking) since gaining independence.

Besides, there's the language issue - this is a perfect example of English oppression. Being Welsh I assume you've heard of the "Welsh Not" - if you were English I would feel as though I'd have to explain it to you, since the English establishment have well and truly brushed that under the carpet. Most Welsh speakers I know (and every Scottish and Irish person I've met) hate the establishment and really don't want anything to do with it, or its monarchy (but that's another story).

I'm also curious as to why you asserted that 'Britain' is a Celtic word, as if it backed up your (correct) assertion that we were here first. It is debatable whether 'Britain' is a derivative of Celtic word or not, but if it was, then it is a reference to what the Celtic people called our island.

Wel it's quite simple really - along the ages (pre-Roman), the Celts became two divisions, Brythoneg (an ancestor of the Welsh language) and Goideleg (out of which Gaelic has come). These were names that one division used to descbribe the other, so Brython was a name for someone speaking Brythoneg, which has now evolved and split up into Welsh, Cornish and Breton (spoken in Brittany) so the fact that the Romans came here, noticed the word Brython and decided to call the island Brittania for a few hundred years until they buggered off again, bears little relevance to the argument.

There is little evidence of the Celtic people migrating to the UK - indeed, our own culture and language probably pre-dates that of the true Celtic people ... altho' we did copy them a lot. It is much more likely that the people that the Romans pushed to the outer reaches of the British Isles when they invaded were original Britons. Most of whom had land in modern day England.

You're not making sense - the "original Britons" WERE Celtic - one was a branch off of the other. And as for there not being much evidence of Celtic migration, this island is awash with remnants of their existance here, such as the myriad of burial mounds, stone circles, and tomb stones, all characteristic of the Celtic ways.



I know that this must be really boring for those of you who don't care, and for this I apologise - I tried to end this in my last post.

[Carcinus]

Ladies and Gentlemen

OK OK, I feel that I have made my point, so I will lower my defences, and leave the politics in favour of more light-hearted chit-chat...

As for the best british county, after my own area I would have to say that the Scottish county of Inverness is the most majestic in natural beauty.

Don't think I'm being anti-English again, because I've been to the majority of English counties along the years, but none of them really stand out as being something special. For a 'best county' I mainly go for the natural geography, not so much the man-made elements.

Inverness-shire is home of the Isle of Skye and Ben Nevis (the view up there is amazing!), not to mention the A87 from Fort William to the end of Skye, the most breath-taking stretch of road I've ever been on. If anyone fancies a road trip anywhere, it's highly recommended.

Anyone else know what I'm on about here?

Although the landscape in Devon and Cornwall might not be as majestic on as large a scale as Scotland, I defy anyone to say it these counties are not, in places, as beautiful. The dramatic North Cornish coast in summer, the rolling hills of the South Hams, the bleak beauty of Dartmoor or Bodmin, all winners in my book. Plus we've Trago Mills.

[Carcinus]

Glag.

I worked for DEFRA for a bit. I'm hoping bird AiDs comes to England, so I can get a summer job there again. Also so a bunch of gits will die.

I have had many dealings with Defra on many occaisions and I couldn't agree more.

[Buffalo]

This board is full with ex uk gov employees.

Defra are more chilled out, unlike MAFF, Thugs in black suits!

[Carcinus]

This board is full with ex uk gov employees.

Defra are more chilled out, unlike MAFF, Thugs in black suits!

There's good eggs and bad eggs working for Defra. Everywhere has it's fair share of idiots.

I've met some pretty evil fishermen too in my most recent line of work. There was one man in Lowestoft who was a spectacularly unpleasant chap.

[JPaul]

(and every Scottish and Irish person I've met) hate the establishment and really don't want anything to do with it, or its monarchy (but that's another story).

I don't know about the rest of your post, but I suspect you have been rather selective in the Scottish and Irish people you have spoken to with regard to whether we hate the "establishment", or it's "monarchy".

Taking the North of Ireland as an example, I think it's true to say that the majority of the population are loyalists / monarchist. Hence the Government they select for themselves, both as their Westminster MPs and in their Assembly.

Neither have I been aware any great upsurge in calls for independance or republicanism in Scotland. However you may be more aware of that than I.

[manker]

I'm sorry but I'll have to pick you up on almost every thing you said there...




It depends which ones you speak to. True we did vote quite convincingly against devolution in 1979 but I feel it is only now that us Welsh are starting to nurture self-belief. The iron fist of previous Tory goverments have had such a tight grip on our country that it has made us insitutionalised, and has convinced many Welsh people that we could not govern ourselves - which is nonsense since there are many small countries in Europe that have boomed (relatively speaking) since gaining independence.

Besides, there's the language issue - this is a perfect example of English oppression. Being Welsh I assume you've heard of the "Welsh Not" - if you were English I would feel as though I'd have to explain it to you, since the English establishment have well and truly brushed that under the carpet. Most Welsh speakers I know (and every Scottish and Irish person I've met) hate the establishment and really don't want anything to do with it, or its monarchy (but that's another story).

I'm also curious as to why you asserted that 'Britain' is a Celtic word, as if it backed up your (correct) assertion that we were here first. It is debatable whether 'Britain' is a derivative of Celtic word or not, but if it was, then it is a reference to what the Celtic people called our island.

Wel it's quite simple really - along the ages (pre-Roman), the Celts became two divisions, Brythoneg (an ancestor of the Welsh language) and Goideleg (out of which Gaelic has come). These were names that one division used to descbribe the other, so Brython was a name for someone speaking Brythoneg, which has now evolved and split up into Welsh, Cornish and Breton (spoken in Brittany) so the fact that the Romans came here, noticed the word Brython and decided to call the island Brittania for a few hundred years until they buggered off again, bears little relevance to the argument.

There is little evidence of the Celtic people migrating to the UK - indeed, our own culture and language probably pre-dates that of the true Celtic people ... altho' we did copy them a lot. It is much more likely that the people that the Romans pushed to the outer reaches of the British Isles when they invaded were original Britons. Most of whom had land in modern day England.

You're not making sense - the "original Britons" WERE Celtic - one was a branch off of the other. And as for there not being much evidence of Celtic migration, this island is awash with remnants of their existance here, such as the myriad of burial mounds, stone circles, and tomb stones, all characteristic of the Celtic ways.



I know that this must be really boring for those of you who don't care, and for this I apologise - I tried to end this in my last post.

Seriously, I think you might have brain aids.

I know for a fact that what I said earlier was right and if you'tr tryig to refute it, then braain aids is the obvious cause.

Not that I can rekmemnber what I said earler but it was right. FDact.