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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcinus
    Very few women use abortion as a contraceptive,.
    Another presumptive impertinence.

    The opposite is true here in the U.S.

    I trust this post is not too wordy for your overtaxed facilities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by Carcinus
    Blight?

    All I'm saying is that he's using big words and stupidlt constructed sentences to try and detract from the point he's trying to make, which isn't even valid. What public enquiry is he talking about? Unless I've either missed a point, or it's something which pertains to America and not here.
    It is something that applies here, but apparently not there.

    Apparently the possiblility you'd missed something did not preclude your impertinence, eh?

    Your choice in calling me impertinent implies percieved superiority. That is not the case here. I stated I was aware I may have missed the full argument. I was pointing out your needless verbosity, which, if anything, detracts from your intellectuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by Carcinus
    Very few women use abortion as a contraceptive,.
    Another presumptive impertinence.

    The opposite is true here in the U.S.

    I trust this post is not too wordy for your overtaxed facilities?

    How exactly do you know my facilities are overtaxed hmm? I am neither presumptive, nor impertinent. Shall I paraphrase.. Very few women will use abortion as a contraceptive as it is a horrible and traumatic experience and those that find themselves there, will very rarely go there again, if indeed they have gone down the route of neglecting contraception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcinus
    There is no point in a pregnant woman who is not interested, or able, to have the welfare of her child at heart, in having that child.
    Granting accidents happen, there is even less point in an "unintended" pregnancy, isn't there?

    Why do you assume I do not/have not listened and/or empathized?

    Are you congenitally presumptive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by Carcinus
    There is no point in a pregnant woman who is not interested, or able, to have the welfare of her child at heart, in having that child.
    Granting accidents happen, there is even less point in an "unintended" pregnancy, isn't there?

    Why do you assume I do not/have not listened and/or empathized?

    Are you congenitally presumptive?
    Unintended pregnancies are exactly that. Unintended, resulting in the woman having to make a harsh decision as to whether she can or will provide adequate care for that child. If there was any point in an "unintended" pregnancy, it wouldn't be unintended would it?

    Why do you assume I do not/have not listened and/or empathized?
    Because you either ignore the points other people make, or drown in your own convaluted overblown tormentation of the English language before you understand what other people are trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcinus
    Very few women will use abortion as a contraceptive

    If you know this to be true in the U.K. (I'll trust that you do), you can trust that I am correct as to what occurs here.

    as it is a horrible and traumatic experience

    Again, the "family-planning" movement here is geared to assuage any guilt or trauma which might otherwise attach.

    and those that find themselves there, will very rarely go there again, if indeed they have gone down the route of neglecting contraception.
    And over here the presumption is an inquisitive, precocious and irresponsible young lady who can't be expected to think of contraception before sex.

    Do you wish to continue in this vein?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcinus
    Unintended pregnancies are exactly that. Unintended, resulting in the woman having to make a harsh decision as to whether she can or will provide adequate care for that child. If there was any point in an "unintended" pregnancy, it wouldn't be unintended would it?

    Then you put no stock in the idea that forethought as to consequence might be of even small benefit?

    Why do you assume I do not/have not listened and/or empathized?
    Because you either ignore the points other people make, or drown in your own convaluted overblown tormentation of the English language before you understand what other people are trying to say.
    Are you pregnant?

    BTW-as one who apparently disdains largish words, your spelling of even small words really sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by Carcinus
    Very few women will use abortion as a contraceptive

    If you know this to be true in the U.K. (I'll trust that you do), you can trust that I am correct as to what occurs here.

    as it is a horrible and traumatic experience

    Again, the "family-planning" movement here is geared to assuage any guilt or trauma which might otherwise attach.

    and those that find themselves there, will very rarely go there again, if indeed they have gone down the route of neglecting contraception.
    And over here the presumption is an inquisitive, precocious and irresponsible young lady who can't be expected to think of contraception before sex.

    Do you wish to continue in this vein?

    Since when was a presumption the truth?

    Do all men leave the toilet seat up? Are all women bitches?

    Go to any abortion clinic. You will see women from all walks of life. Young ones form the minority, but are paying the price for their ignorance, unlike young men, who are not betrayed by biology. The majority of women attending will probably be women in their twenties to fifties, who have made a decision to pay the mental price for doing what they consider to be the right thing in terms of their unborn child.

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    Then you put no stock in the idea that forethought as to consequence might be of even small benefit?
    Unintentional belies forethought.

    Yes contraception should be in the forethought of anyone getting down and dirty, but there should be provision for mistakes. Or are you perfect?

    Goodnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcinus
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    And over here the presumption is an inquisitive, precocious and irresponsible young lady who can't be expected to think of contraception before sex.

    Do you wish to continue in this vein?

    Since when was a presumption the truth?

    Do all men leave the toilet seat up?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    Are all women bitches?

    No; the few I know who'll admit to it are raher proud of it, though.

    Go to any abortion clinic. You will see women from all walks of life. Young ones form the minority, but are paying the price for their ignorance, unlike young men, who are not betrayed by biology. The majority of women attending will probably be women in their twenties to fifties, who have made a decision to pay the mental price for doing what they consider to be the right thing in terms of their unborn child.
    I have done, and I go by what I know.

    If things are different there, fine, then I'm not talking about the U.K., and, in any case, Roe v. Wade is American, rather than U.K., law.

    If I make a statement about how things are here, the lone fact you are female does not entitle you to dispute what I say.

    You are entitled to advocate for women, as am I.

    My objection is with a flawed system, and the fact of my manhood does not preclude my commenting on it.

    We believe differently; of that there is no doubt.

    The rest is socio-geographic.

    I will unilaterally agree to disagree with you; sorry, but I'm an American, and you know how we are.

    As to your spelling, I'm sure you don't remember your pointing out a mistake I made a few days ago; my compulsion to point out your mistake is nothing but another goose/gander thing.

    I'm sure you understand.

    Goodnight to you, too.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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