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    Maybe not, but your government changes over time yes?

    Surely it is not inconceivable that a future US government might consider tax breaks for clean fuel or to encourage alternative fuel research?

    To dismiss the idea because "no government here would ever do it" seems somewhat asinine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skillian
    Maybe not, but your government changes over time yes?

    Surely it is not inconceivable that a future US government might consider tax breaks for clean fuel or to encourage alternative fuel research?

    To dismiss the idea because "no government here would ever do it" seems somewhat asinine.
    The discussion was over whether or not the intransigent government could, overnight, in effect, restructure it's regulatory nature and imperative to tax so as to immediately foster research into, and development of, alternative fuels...not whether an intransigent government could ever be expected to change in any way.

    The distinction is not too subtle, I trust?
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    You should watch the 60 Minutes from 2 weeks ago.

    It describes how those without health insurance get billed sometimes 10x more by a hospital than those with.
    Thanks, but I didn't need to.

    I am well aware their strategy is to force bankruptcy in order to wipe their books.
    eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    The discussion was over whether or not the intransigent government could, overnight, in effect, restructure it's regulatory nature and imperative to tax so as to immediately foster research into, and development of, alternative fuels...not whether an intransigent government could ever be expected to change in any way.

    The distinction is not too subtle, I trust?
    I was merely addressing your post (#32), and your later puzzlement at Rat Faced's reply. I was saying that a government could and should tax a "totally environmentally-friendly fuel" less heavily than petrol/gas.

    Apologies if I didn't use the quote feature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skillian
    I was saying that a government could and should tax a "totally environmentally-friendly fuel" less heavily than petrol/gas.
    You can get a $2,000 writeoff on income taxes for buying a "green" vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
    Quote Originally Posted by Skillian
    I was saying that a government could and should tax a "totally environmentally-friendly fuel" less heavily than petrol/gas.
    You can get a $2,000 writeoff on income taxes for buying a "green" vehicle.
    ..and those same green vehicles can have an $8000 mark-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot

    You can get a $2,000 writeoff on income taxes for buying a "green" vehicle.
    ..and those same green vehicles can have an $8000 mark-up.
    When was the last time you sent your income tax payment to a car dealership?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    ..and those same green vehicles can have an $8000 mark-up.
    When was the last time you sent your income tax payment to a car dealership?!?!?
    Eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot

    When was the last time you sent your income tax payment to a car dealership?!?!?
    Eh?
    r-e-a-d. skillian stated there should be tax breaks for green fuels. I stated there are tax breaks for green vehicles. you talk about dealership markups.

    1. tax breaks
    2. tax breaks
    3. dealer markups

    sing with me now, "one of these things is not like the other."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Eh?
    r-e-a-d. skillian stated there should be tax breaks for green fuels. I stated there are tax breaks for green vehicles. you talk about dealership markups.

    1. tax breaks
    2. tax breaks
    3. dealer markups

    sing with me now, "one of these things is not like the other."
    Dealer markups FOR GREEN VEHICLES.

    Cancels out tax breaks is all.

    c-o-m-p-r-e-h-e-n-d

    1. tax breaks for green fuels
    2. tax breaks for green vehicles
    3. dealer markups for green vehicles

    sing with me now, "there was a correlation not to hard to figure out...for some."
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