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    All prices are in canadian, the site I got all these from are:

    http://www.alinx.ca

    Yes yes, the PSU sucks major balls, any suggestions on that one? Also, can anyone suggest an awesome and powerful heat sink for the CPU as I do plan on Overclocking (if the mobo allows for it). I'm looking at you clocker, you gotta help me out here

    I'm building this one based on price, I want it to be preferabbly under $950 CAD if possible after taxes.

    It's 14% here in BC, so basically take your total price then multiply it by 1.14 and that's your price after tax. So ya, any suggestion welcome, and I can tell there will be a lot.

    Remember, price is keyword on this one, thanks in advance guys.

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    ThermalTake Soprano VB1000BWS 20" Tower Black w/Side Window
    Feature High Efficient ventilation: Dual 12cm silent fan in front & rear, 9cm fan on side panel Tool-Free when installing 5.25" & 3.5" device Dual USB 2.0, IEEE 1394 Firewire, Audio & Speaker ports Retractable foot stand Highly flexible "Silent Purepower supply" unit supports PS/II for PC case (optional)

    $108.00

    Alinx link: http://www.alinx.ca/itemdetail.asp?ItemID=8500
    Actual Product link: http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCase...no/sns/sns.htm



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    550W ATX Dual Fan Power Supply

    $39.00

    Alinx link: http://www.alinx.ca/itemdetail.asp?ItemID=7154
    Sorry, no actual product link.



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    nForce 4 SLI Mainboard

    Features Key Features Single-Chip Architecture Revolutionary single-chip architecture enables higher-quality, full-featured motherboards and delivers maximum performance with the lowest latency. The single-chip design also means less power consumption and less heat dissipation. 64-Bit Architecture NVIDIA nForce4 and NVIDIA nForce3 MCPs provide advanced processing capabilities and system innovations for the 64-bit AMD processor architecture. HyperTransport Technology A state of the art I/O bus interface, delivering the highest continuous throughput?00MB/setween the nForce platform processors. Ensures data and information are relayed through the system as quickly as possible. Other Features NVIDIA?SLI?Technology Dramatically scales performance by allowing two graphics cards to be run in parallel. Only available on select PCI-Express models. NVIDIA RAID NVIDIA RAID technology implements standard RAID 0, RAID 1, and RAID 0+1 techniques to maximize storage assets. NVIDIA RAID technology additionally introduces many innovations that simplify and optimize the management of RAID features and disk resources. NVIDIA StreamThru Data Transport System NVIDIA patent-pending isochronous data transport system, providing uninterrupted data streaming for superior networking and broadband communications. StreamThru assists in making streaming video and audio smoother and jitter-free. Unified Driver Architecture (UDA) Part of the NVIDIA Forceware unified software environment (USE). The NVIDIA UDA guarantees forward and backward compatibility with software drivers. Simplifies upgrading to a new NVIDIA product because all NVIDIA products work with the same driver software. NVIDIA nTune Performance Application Enables the easiest, safest, and highest performing overclocking available for NVIDIA nForce-based PCs. Performance wizards allow automatic tuning for the best performance or the quietest operation. Previously known as the NVIDIA System Utility. USB 2.0 A standard plug and play interface providing easy-to-use connectivity for USB devices. NVIDIA Native Gigabit Ethernet The industry fastest Gigabit Ethernet performance, eliminates network bottlenecks and improves overall system efficiency and performance. NVIDIA Firewall Technology A high-performance, hardware-optimized firewall, NVIDIA Firewall protects your PC from intruders by filtering unauthorized traffic. Integrated into NVIDIA nForce3 and nForce2 MCPs with NVIDIA Gigabit Ethernet, it provides professional-grade traffic inspection capabilities, advanced management features--remote access, configuration, and monitoring--and is easy to use and setup via a user-friendly wizard. NVIDIA nForce Networking NVIDIA networking delivers the highest throughput for network transfers and lower CPU utilization. The manageable and stable NVIDIA networking solution results in better networking performance and a lower total cost of ownership. NVIDIA ForceWare Unified Software Environment (USE) Ensures the best out-of-box experience for every user by delivering industry-leading features for graphics, audio, video, communications, storage, and security; one driver for all products; and continual performance and feature updates over the life of the product. Serial ATA

    $89.00

    Alinx link: http://www.alinx.ca/itemdetail.asp?ItemID=9740
    Actual Product link: http://www.evga.com/products/moreinf...1-AX&family=20



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    AMD Athlon™ 64 3500+ 2.2GHz 512K Socket939 RETAIL BOX
    The AMD Athlon64 processor is designed to run existing 32-bit applications with outstanding performance and offers customers a simplified migration path to 64-bit computing. This evolutionary processor provides a dramatic leap forward in compatibility, performance, investment protection, and reduced total cost of ownership.

    $234.00

    Alinx link: http://www.alinx.ca/itemdetail.asp?ItemID=7475Actual
    Product link not need, this one is self-explanatory



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    Zalman CNPS7000B-ALCU Aluminum/Copper For Socket 478/754/939/940
    CNPS7000B-AlCu - Dimensions : 109 (L) x 109 (W) x 62 (H) mm - Weight : 438g - Base Material : Pure Aluminum & Pure Copper - Dissipation Area : 3,154 cm2 - Bearing Type : 2-Ball - Speed : 1,350 ~ 2,600 rpm 10% - Thermal Resistance : 0.29 ~ 0.22 C/W - Noise Level : 18.0 ~ 27.5 dB 10% FAN Speed Controller (FAN MATE 2) - Dimensions : 70 (L) x 26 (W) x 26 (H) mm - Weight : 20g - Output Voltage : 5V ~ 11V 2% - Allowable Power : 6W or lower - Connector : 3-Pin Directions for Use

    $43.00

    Alinx link: http://www.alinx.ca/itemdetail.asp?ItemID=8607
    Actual Product link: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/...42&code=005009



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    eVGA E-GEFORCE 6800GS 256M DDR3 PCI-E

    Performance NVIDIA 6800 GS 425 MHz GPU 12 Pixel Pipelines 400 MHz RAMDAC / Memory 256 MB, 256 bit DDR3 1000 MHz (effective) 32 GB/s Memory Bandwidth / Interface PCI-E 16X VGA, DVI-I, HDTV SLI Capable

    $228.00

    Alinx link: http://www.alinx.ca/itemdetail.asp?ItemID=8892
    Actual Product link: http://www.evga.com/products/moreinf...256-P2-N386-AX



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    Sub-Total:
    CAD$741.00


    Total After Taxes: $844.74


    Note: I don't need RAM or hard drive as I already have 2 1gb sticks lying on my desk and 2 spare 200gb Hdd's.
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    get liquid cooling

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    Quote Originally Posted by cigar
    get liquid cooling
    Not in the budget, I'm afraid.

    Cpt...although the Zalman was once a favorite of mine I now prefer the Arctic Freezer Pro. Silence and excellent cooling.

    Your vid card will run hotter than the CPU anyway...

    Enermax Liberty PSU would be a big improvement over your current choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker
    Quote Originally Posted by cigar
    get liquid cooling
    Not in the budget, I'm afraid.

    Cpt...although the Zalman was once a favorite of mine I now prefer the Arctic Freezer Pro. Silence and excellent cooling.

    Your vid card will run hotter than the CPU anyway...

    Enermax Liberty PSU would be a big improvement over your current choice.
    Thanks, after checking out the Artic Freezer I can def. say I'll buy that. The Enermax looks great too, lets hope its within the budget.

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    The PSU looks like a pos

    Get a brandname one like Antec, Enermax or Coolmax.
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    Get this for your Vid card:
    Asus EN7600GT/2DHT nVidia GeForce 7600GT(560MHz) 256MB GDDR3(1.4GHz) 128-Bit DVI-I HDTV-Out PCI Express Graphics Card

    Price is $250, only 20 bucks more expensive than the 6800GS but a much better performer
    http://canadacomputers.com/index.php...04&cid=999.243

    and lastly get a 3700+ with 1mb cache, those are only around 30 bucks more expansive...but double the cache will result in better performance. IMO, either the 3200+ or the 3700+ is the best on the CPU curve right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker
    Cpt...although the Zalman was once a favorite of mine I now prefer the Arctic Freezer Pro. Silence and excellent cooling.
    I gotta get me one of those,Hopefully it can fit in my case and isnt too high. Heres a link to my psu... its onsale dude you hould get it! http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...y&promoid=1030
    Last edited by S!X; 03-17-2006 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedler
    Get this for your Vid card:
    Asus EN7600GT/2DHT nVidia GeForce 7600GT(560MHz) 256MB GDDR3(1.4GHz) 128-Bit DVI-I HDTV-Out PCI Express Graphics Card

    Price is $250, only 20 bucks more expensive than the 6800GS but a much better performer
    http://canadacomputers.com/index.php...04&cid=999.243

    and lastly get a 3700+ with 1mb cache, those are only around 30 bucks more expansive...but double the cache will result in better performance. IMO, either the 3200+ or the 3700+ is the best on the CPU curve right now.
    Seedler, you rock man lol I didn't even know the 7600 was out, I haven't been following up on my tech news lately

    But definitely will get this, I called alinx today and told them to order it (since they didnt have it in stock, and in fact, they're gonna sell it to me for $240 which is pretty damn good )

    As for the CPU, I'm not too tech savvy so mind my illiteracy on this topic, are you saying that the 3200+ is better than the 3500+? And I checked, the 3700+ is 35 bucks more than the 3500+ from where I'm getting it from, so I'll make the switch to that.

    I was talking to LP the other day, and I explained to him how I can easily buy a much better computer, in fact, I have the budget for it. HOWEVER, since I don't use it to play games or anything that much (not a gamer anymore sadly), I don't want to go overkill. But hey, some of these products are awesome and pretty good considering price, my new budget max is upped to 1050.

    I can go up to a max of 1500, but won't be doing that anytime soon since I want just a good computer. (Nothing too extreme).

    Thanks again guys appreciate it greatly

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    Alrighty, here's an updated list, please tell me what needs to go and what needs to stay:

    AMD Athlon 64 3700+ --- $248.00
    special order alinx

    Asus EN7600GT 256mb --- $240.00
    special order alinx

    Antec SmartPower 2.0 500Watts ATX12V --- $88.00
    http://canadacomputers.com/index.php...311&cid=PS.808

    eVGA nForce 4 SLI Mainboard --- $89.00
    http://www.alinx.ca/itemdetail.asp?ItemID=9740

    ThermalTake Soprano VB1000BWS --- $108.00
    http://www.alinx.ca/itemdetail.asp?ItemID=8500


    Still unsure on the CPU heatsink/cooling, since I couldn't find the one clocker recommended and alinx won't order that one for some reason. If in the end I can't locate it, I'll have to order it online from ebay or something since newegg doesn't ship to Canada.

    Lemme know what you guys think.

    P.S.:

    $685 + tax = $780.90 (this is excluding PSU which is, I'm assuming, will not be taxable)

    PSU: 88.00 + 16 (S&H) = $104.00 + 10~15 (unexpected fees, hey, they do happen sometimes) =~ $115.00

    So grand total minus heatsink = $895.90

    Looking good so far.
    Last edited by cpt_azad; 03-18-2006 at 01:36 AM.

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    The retail box CPU comes with a cooler. Try that one first and if you want to change it later you can.

    I would recommend a more mainstream motherboard like MSI, Gigabyte, Asus or DFI.

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