Smoking Ban Comes Into Force In Scotland

[JPaul]

No-one was being forced to go to smokey pubs. If you don't want to smell smoke, go to a non-smoking bar.

As an aside, what will happens in nightclubs etc? I used to go clubbing for 5-6 hours at a time, and I can't see ticketed events just letting people in and out to smoke all the time.

This way the people who chose not to poison themselves and others get to go where they want. In fact everyone gets to go where they want. People just don't get to do something which has no saving virtues and don't get to pollute other people's lungs as well as their own.

Re Nightclubs etc. I believe they are in exactly the same position as everyone else. How they manage it is a matter for them.

[Skillian]

But I won't get to go out to the pub or a decent nightclub anymore. It sucks.

Personally I'm all for smoking bans in workplaces, restaurants, nearly all public places. But a pub is somewhere you can go to have a pint and a smoke after work and unwind. Not anymore.

I just don't see how you can't satisfy smokers and non-smokers by having smoking and non-smoking venues.

[Skillian]

No, no smoking in bars now, and soon, no drinking and no talking. Be careful, Scotland! You’re supposed to be the crazy state, the out there, wild ones, you know? In the future, everyone’s going to say, “Come down to the library, we’ll have a wild time, shall we? Don’t know where that fucking book is, mate, it could be anywhere! There’s a lot of ‘em about!

/obscure?

[JPaul]

But I won't get to go out to the pub or a decent nightclub anymore. It sucks.

Personally I'm all for smoking bans in workplaces, restaurants, nearly all public places. But a pub is somewhere you can go to have a pint and a smoke after work and unwind. Not anymore.

I just don't see how you can't satisfy smokers and non-smokers by having smoking and non-smoking venues.

Why should non-smokers be limited in where they are allowed to go. Their freedom of choice is more important than a smoker's freedom to smoke.

[JPaul]

No, no smoking in bars now, and soon, no drinking and no talking. Be careful, Scotland! You’re supposed to be the crazy state, the out there, wild ones, you know? In the future, everyone’s going to say, “Come down to the library, we’ll have a wild time, shall we? Don’t know where that fucking book is, mate, it could be anywhere! There’s a lot of ‘em about!

/obscure?

Eddie Izzard.

[MagicNakor]

There has been a ban on smoking in public areas (cinemas, restaurants, pubs, and so forth) here for years and years now. It truly is far more pleasant.

Regarding nightclubs and going in and out to have a smoke, here you end up getting a stamp on the back of your hand to prove you've paid up and whatnot. You can enter and leave as many times as you please. I imagine they'd do something similar over your way.

[JPaul]

There has been a ban on smoking in public areas (cinemas, restaurants, pubs, and so forth) here for years and years now. It truly is far more pleasant.

Regarding nightclubs and going in and out to have a smoke, here you end up getting a stamp on the back of your hand to prove you've paid up and whatnot. You can enter and leave as many times as you please. I imagine they'd do something similar over your way.

That makes sense.

[Skillian]

Lots of clubs I go to search everyone when they enter the premises. Having to do this every time someone goes out for a cig sounds like a bit of a logistical nightmare (as well as drugs/weapons issues), not to mention the problems with loads of people entering and exiting, and queues around entrances.

I think the most likely scenario in these places would be the ban is ignored - sounds good to me

edit: has the media come up with the word smokeasy (as in speakeasy) yet? If not, I'm claiming it now

[DrBeerMan]

Welcome to California!

[Busyman]

But I won't get to go out to the pub or a decent nightclub anymore. It sucks.

Personally I'm all for smoking bans in workplaces, restaurants, nearly all public places. But a pub is somewhere you can go to have a pint and a smoke after work and unwind. Not anymore.

I just don't see how you can't satisfy smokers and non-smokers by having smoking and non-smoking venues.

So a person can't have a bar smoking bar in Scotland...as in THE FOLKS HERE COME IN HERE TO SMOKE AND DRINK?

I'd think an owner would have the right to that say if a person doesn't like smoke, GTFO.

The owner would pay the price in the market. He/she wouldn't get non-smoker business.

A place specifically for the purpose and a sign on the door sounds good enough. A non-smoker comes in, he can't complain. Otherwise, he's just being a bitch. He'd be like a guy going into a nudey bar complaining about the nekkid ladies. GTFO then.