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[james_bond_rulez]

what a joke, u guys are actually lining for private trackers when there is open usenet u can leech all u want

wut a bunch of dumbfucks

You're the dummy if you don't know that private trackers have lots of files that don't make it to usenet.

Usenet is great, it's a leechers delight, but it's not the be all and end all of downloading.

(nice troll btw)

ya ya that's wut u say for all the stuff out there, soulseek, private trackers, emule or whatnot, fact is, it's not accessible to anybody who wants the files, and that is not the spirit of p2p, my nigger.

content wise, usenet and irc are the two biggest source of files anywhere, BT is just feeding off of usenet and irc channels.

u want to talk about content? usenet pwns ur little private tracker

[AllMusic]

content wise, usenet and irc are the two biggest source of files anywhere, BT is just feeding off of usenet and irc channels.

Where do you think the X-Files flood came from in a.b.multimedia? Yup, BT private tracker.

[james_bond_rulez]

content wise, usenet and irc are the two biggest source of files anywhere, BT is just feeding off of usenet and irc channels.

Where do you think the X-Files flood came from in a.b.multimedia? Yup, BT private tracker.

dude, where do u suppose release groups would dump their releases at?

answer seems pretty obvious...

[ilikechikin]

I didn't want to get involved in this little argument, but are you honestly saying BT gets files from usenet and irc? Because that is absolutely not true. The best private trackers get the files straight from the scene, at worst a few hours after they are released, and at best a few minutes after. So in reality most private BT trackers feed off the scene, and Usenet and IRC feed of the private BT trackers. Because the majority of the people with access to the new stuff don't want it to get out.

I mean I'm sure Usenet is great, but don't talk about BT feeding off of Usenet. And some people don't want to pay for their stuff and be limited to whatever is on Usenet.

[AllMusic]

dude, where do u suppose release groups would dump their releases at?

answer seems pretty obvious...

not scene releases, private caps by BT users.

and btw BT has scene releases hours before they appear on usenet.

[james_bond_rulez]

"Because the majority of the people with access to the new stuff don't want it to get out."

explain the logic in that, why don't people want to get it out?

of course they want to get it out to as many people as possible. And the fastest way to do that is either by uploading it to usenet (since downloading it is a lot faster than bt), or the irc channels for the users to be put on trackers

release groups compete to get their releases out faster, so it doesn't make any sense if they "don't want to get it out".

[ilikechikin]

The scene hates p2p. The scene releases for the scene itself, they don't want other people getting their hands on it because it can compromise the security of the entire scene it self.

RiPPER.......... : DONT SHARE THIS S*** ON BITTORENT NGS, or ANY OTHER LAME Peer Crap

http://www.vcdquality.com/index.php?page=nfo&id=61088

The people who upload to BT and Newsgroups are people in the scene that are taking these releases and spreading against the wishes of the scene. If you were on any big private BT tracker in the past few months you could have seen how pissed they really get. They hack web sites, post IP's of uploaders, and basically attempt to bring sites to the ground.

and a big F*** YOU to all torrent uploaders, why dont you see the light, if you have
scene access why the f*** do you need to upload? and risk the security of the whole scene

This isn't just torrent uploaders though. This is everyone in the scene who uploads the files somewhere else.

[james_bond_rulez]

dude, where do u suppose release groups would dump their releases at?

answer seems pretty obvious...

not scene releases, private caps by BT users.

and btw BT has scene releases hours before they appear on usenet.

ya, that's for people who are too stupid to use irc and usenet

usenet and irc channels have dominated p2p long before bt was at its infancy

and to say that usenet and irc feed off bt, is simply stupid.

Releases always travel from fast to slow sources. it's risky for release groups to put out files on servers that can be tracked, such as a bt tracker or xdcc feed. On the contrary, usenet gave them a mean of anonymity.

have u read the nfo's on newzbin lately? release grps telling newzbin to fuck off because they charge people money to download nzbs? they've risked a great deal to put out stuff on usenet and they are pissed newzbin is benefiting from it.

[ilikechikin]

dude, where do u suppose release groups would dump their releases at?

answer seems pretty obvious...

They have private FTP dumps. For use only by them. If they wanted you to have the files they would make a much bigger effort. Basically, all p2p users steal from the scene because the scene works by everyone working together. You get access to it by being able to offer something in return. On p2p all you have to do is download something. You aren't forced to contribute anything to the scene, you just take what you want. That's why the scene hates p2p.

[james_bond_rulez]

dude, where do u suppose release groups would dump their releases at?

answer seems pretty obvious...

They have private FTP dumps. For use only by them. If they wanted you to have the files they would make a much bigger effort. Basically, all p2p users steal from the scene because the scene works by everyone working together. You get access to it by being able to offer something in return. On p2p all you have to do is download something. You aren't forced to contribute anything to the scene, you just take what you want. That's why the scene hates p2p.

steal from the scene? and they got their material from?

didn't seem fair to just keep the stolen good amongst themselves

the entire point of p2p is unconditional sharing, if u can't follow the p2p code, u can go to hell.

Ya, sure they are pissed, but do i care?

usenet still pwns