FIFA World Cup 2006 - Germany

[Adster]

ahh the USA coach who said aust was the 2nd worst team in the wrold cup

I wanna see US miss the 2nd round and aust get in just coz of that

[BawA]

Go soccero0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0s

[Cheese]

If Italy draws then USA must win by 5 clear goals, equalling Czechs goal difference isn't good enough cos Czech beat USA in their game.

Are you sure? If goal difference is equal don't they decide the posions on goals scored. If so a 4-0 USA win and a 0-0 or 1-1 draw in the other game would be enough to see USA through. A 2-2 draw and 4-0 USA win would mean thy decide the postion by the result between the two teams.

An unlikely scenario granted.

I also have to disagree with Italy losing being USA's best chance of progressing, a Czech loss and a USA win would put USA through on points with no need to worry about complicated goal difference permutations.


Edit:

Point system

The system of play will be the league system, each team playing one match against each of the other teams in the same group, with three points for a win, one point for a draw and none for a defeat.
The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows:[3]
a) Greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) Goal difference in all group matches;
c) Greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.

If two or more teams are equal based on the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
d) Greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
e) Goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
f) Greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
g) Drawing of lots by the Organising Committee for the FIFA World Cup.

The two teams coming first and second in each group qualify for the second round.

[Cheese]

Technically, USA could get through on goal difference (assuming they win) if they score enough goals past Ghana and the Italians/Czechs draw or the Italians lose. I love close groups like USA's, all the teams have something to play for in the final group game.

Good luck to USA, I'd like to see them go through with the Czechs and the Italians to go home early again.

So in your scenario in red it would be:

Italy 5
Shreks 4
USA 4
Ghana 3

In blue

Italy 4
Shreks 6
USA 4
Ghana 3

right?

So far the Shreks have 3 goals, Italy has 3. The US has only 1 fucking goal. That goal is not to just beat Ghana but beat the shit out of'em.

Just to make sure I understand the goal difference tiebreak against the US is it:

Shreks are now +1, Italy is +2, and the US is -3?

That looks like a tall mountain climb....if it comes to a tiebreak. I'm rooting for the US and Italy. Fuck the Shreks of course.

Good for England with 2 shutouts so far. I see they are on to the tournament even if they lose.

That's pretty much it, you're best off rooting for an Italian win so if USA beat Ghana they'll go through. Should be two tight games, I imagine the teams are going to be changing positions lots during the course of the two games (the matches are played at the same time).

England's shutouts (or clean-sheets) is about the only thing you can take from our performance, we've had a lacklustre start to this World Cup.

[dodgy368]

Are you sure? If goal difference is equal don't they decide the posions on goals scored. If so a 4-0 USA win and a 0-0 or 1-1 draw in the other game would be enough to see USA through. A 2-2 draw and 4-0 USA win would mean thy decide the postion by the result between the two teams.

An unlikely scenario granted.

I also have to disagree with Italy losing being USA's best chance of progressing, a Czech loss and a USA win would put USA through on points with no need to worry about complicated goal difference permutations.


Edit:

Point system

The system of play will be the league system, each team playing one match against each of the other teams in the same group, with three points for a win, one point for a draw and none for a defeat.
The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows:[3]
a) Greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) Goal difference in all group matches;
c) Greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.

If two or more teams are equal based on the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
d) Greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
e) Goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
f) Greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
g) Drawing of lots by the Organising Committee for the FIFA World Cup.

The two teams coming first and second in each group qualify for the second round.

Yep, you're spot on with that, I should've posted after I'd woken up.

[DorisInsinuate]

Yeah, what an idiot. Everyone knows that they're a South American team.

clearly

Lol, just fucking lol.

[Cheese]

Are you sure? If goal difference is equal don't they decide the posions on goals scored. If so a 4-0 USA win and a 0-0 or 1-1 draw in the other game would be enough to see USA through. A 2-2 draw and 4-0 USA win would mean thy decide the postion by the result between the two teams.

An unlikely scenario granted.

I also have to disagree with Italy losing being USA's best chance of progressing, a Czech loss and a USA win would put USA through on points with no need to worry about complicated goal difference permutations.


Edit:

Yep, you're spot on with that, I should've posted after I'd woken up.

I play far too much Football Manager so am able to work out all the permutations in my sleep. I have also started using the word "permutation" far too much.

[Chip Monk]

haha to the idiot who said turkey was an african team

I'm taking that, even tho' it is shooting fish in a barrel.

[DanB]

ahh the USA coach who said aust was the 2nd worst team in the wrold cup

I wanna see US miss the 2nd round and aust get in just coz of that

I have a feeling Australia are going to have their arses handed to them today by Brazil

[Adster]

ahh the USA coach who said aust was the 2nd worst team in the wrold cup

I wanna see US miss the 2nd round and aust get in just coz of that

I have a feeling Australia are going to have their arses handed to them today by Brazil

yeah i dont think we will get up tonight hopefuly japon and croata grab a draw then we can force or win against coratia to get in 2nd round bout as far as we will go

then I have to get on the england bandwagon