HBO Busted me d/ling Entourage today

[haowee]

By not sharing or uploading anything will affect dl speed?

[fkdup74]

@fkdup74
I believe that you taking what I wrote out of context totally bastardized the point I was trying to make. You also added a word into my mouth that never was written.

I wrote...

"I believe there is still the option of not sharing anything with limewire and that equals total safety."

Currently, not sharing is safe. The MPAA/RIAA is not sueing those that only download. Their strategy is simple, cut off the head and the rest will die. By not sharing in these lower p2p apps you are doing the "powers that be", a favor by taking and not giving. It would destroy the network if everyone did it.

Out of context? Putting words in your mouth? That was a direct quote, just truncated a bit.
And bastardizing? It was a simple reply stating my belief that you are wrong.
Which happens to be the truth. 0% p2p = 0% risk. Fact.
If you choose to participate in p2p, well then, the risk is proportionate to the activity. Also fact.
Some n00b seeing your post about not sharing being totally safe and thinking they are not liable for their actions,
now that would be taking your words out of context and in effect putting themselves at greater risk.

It gets so old shooting holes in poeples' thoeries.

[hslayer]

thats not good...

[Broken]

If you read the DMCA downloading only is a gray area. It's not spelled out that it is ilegal to download without uploading. To date, no one has tested this gray area.

Until 'the powers that be' do sue someone for downloading only I would venture to say that it is legal.

The distribution of copyrighted materials over the internet for which the distributor (any server - including your personal computer) does not have permission may be a violation of a federal copyright law.
Violation of the DMCA (the online infringement of copyrighted material - upload/sharing), can be punished by up to 3 years in prison and $250,000 in fines. Repeat offenders can be imprisoned up to 6 years. Individuals also may be held civilly liable (regardless of whether the activity is for profit) for actual damages or lost profits, or for statutory damages up to $150,000 per infringed copyright .

Nothing about downloading. Tons about distribution. So if you're not distributing your not breaking the law. That is of course as long as you have a copy of whatever it is your downloading... which we all do, of course.
source
http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf

[Broken]

It gets so old shooting holes in poeples' thoeries.

[Bnad]

So will a proxy like Findnot or Metropipe protect you? These services specifically say that when you BT over them, BT sees the proxy's IP (and a session key) instead of your IP. The proxy forwards the traffic to your IP using this session key. The BT observer has no way of using the session key to look up your IP .
If so, that is one safe way to use BT, provided one makes certain setting changes to Azureus or whatever BT client one uses. Feel free to poke holes.

PG and the like can not protect you in a BT swarm.
It might be (assuming that they are even on the list of blocked IP's) keeping who-ever from contacting you directly. But your IP is still relayed to them through the peers in the swarm they can contact.

BT is the most unsafe method of filesharing out there.
In just a few seconds every member of a swarm can be ID.

Once you realize how unsafe it is you either have balls of steel, or just don't care if you still use BT.
Believe it or not there is much better ways to get stuff out there.

*edit, grammer*

[Broken]

I'm not familiar with either of those proxies. I was under the impression that there is no BT client that will work with a proxy ( I may well be wrong ). BT was ot originally designed for anything that might have required you to use a proxy.

None the less, if there is a proxy that works, you'll be loosing your already limited speeds.

[Bnad]

oops, see next message

I'm not familiar with either of those proxies. I was under the impression that there is no BT client that will work with a proxy ( I may well be wrong ). BT was ot originally designed for anything that might have required you to use a proxy.

None the less, if there is a proxy that works, you'll be loosing your already limited speeds.

[Bnad]

By the way, yes, paid proxy services do slow things down but not much--I can easily get 100kBps = 800kbps through my proxy service--not a bad price to pay to avoid HBO's lawyers

I'm not familiar with either of those proxies. I was under the impression that there is no BT client that will work with a proxy ( I may well be wrong ). BT was ot originally designed for anything that might have required you to use a proxy.

None the less, if there is a proxy that works, you'll be loosing your already limited speeds.

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