Election America!

[JPaul]

Re the impeachment issue, were there many Democrats who supported the actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. If so they would be on fairly shakey ground trying to impeach him for going ahead. I don't know how many supported it, or failed to speak out against it, you chaps will know.

If he does get impeached I think it may be for something else. It's debated depending on what political side one is, but there are several things he has done that are unconstitutional. Warrentless wiretaps as an example and these signing statements are questionable.

I don't think it serves any good for the U.S. impeaching Bush, but he probably deserves censuring at the very least.

When the system was designed they wanted to ensure that they weren't replacing a foreign king/dictator country with a local dictator. So they set up the 3 branches to be seperate but equal to ensure checks and balances would prevent this happening.
Our so called freedoms are protected best when there is at least one branch held by a different party. As we have seen just recently, when one party holds all the power the country suffers and we lose freedoms as the oversight disappears.
Of course this system can lead to stalemate so usually a compromise is reached..........if only I could say that they usually reach good compromises

Good points, well made.

The only similar situation I can think of in the UK is when one party does not get a majority of seats in the commons. As such they are unable to form a Government.

The last time I remember that happening resulted in the LibLab pact. The Labour party and the 3rd largest party (Liberal Party) formed a coalition Government. They basically added their seats together to make a majority. The idea was then to have Government based on compromise

It didn't work.

[j2k4]

I mean the Dems said that they wouldn't impeach and he should be appreciative of that.

What part don't you understand? Is this going to be a boring moment again?

I understand it fine, I just can't believe you think he ought to "be appreciative' of the fact.

Big bad Democrats.

I hope Conyers tries it, I really do.

[Busyman]

What part don't you understand? Is this going to be a boring moment again?

I understand it fine, I just can't believe you think he ought to "be appreciative' of the fact.

Big bad Democrats.

I hope Conyers tries it, I really do.

It's a joke, jay.

I personally think it would be a waste of time. There are more pressing issues on the table like running the country.

I just hope the Dems keep to the high road and don't fuck up. They have a massive clean-up to handle.

[j2k4]

[.I just hope the Dems keep to the high road and don't fuck up. They have a massive clean-up to handle.

I wouldn't count on the high road or not fucking up.

As to the "massive clean-up" they'll have to remember to lay aside their obstructionist tendencies.

What should Bush do if he sees they're about to fuck-up.

[vidcc]

they'll have to remember to lay aside their obstructionist tendencies.

You say this like it's only the democratic party that obstructs. The repubs are just as bad.

But to your suggestion that the democratic party obstructed the republican agenda......They say "you're welcome".

[Busyman]

[.I just hope the Dems keep to the high road and don't fuck up. They have a massive clean-up to handle.

I wouldn't count on the high road or not fucking up.

As to the "massive clean-up" they'll have to remember to lay aside their obstructionist tendencies.

What should Bush do if he sees they're about to fuck-up.

Both sides have obstructionist tendencies. Now in the case of case Repub rule if the Dems really thought a bill to be rather idiotic they should be obstructionist and vice-versa.

Bush really should STFU. I mean he had his party ruling congress and did squat.

I said it all along, what good came of the Bush reign?

They spent like fuck while cutting taxes during a war. Dumb.

The jobless rate is at it's lowest since '01. Is that because of the tax cut or just because because?

Meanwhile, jobs are moving overseas like crazy and pensions are getting cut.

The average joe is having a threat to his livelihood on his heels and it benefits the few.

I never thought about stuff like earmarks leading to corruption but earmarks get lumped inside of bills like for instance the prescription drug bill.

A congressman would more likely vote for it since his state would benefit from the earmark.

How the fuck does shit like that even exist?

Oh cos congress made the rules. That's fuuuuucked up.

They need to fucking axe all that shit out.

No gifts for congressman. They are civil fucking servants and not rock stars.

Earmarks and "gifts" sound like a fucked up "tradition" but it leads to corruption. It was painful seeing Jeff Flake argue his stance and then some other congressman argue theirs with a straight face.

I remember some bitch politician from Alaska saying with a straight face how Alaska needed that fucking 200 million dollar bridge to an island of 50 people.

Everyone in congress is out to get there's while they systematically fuck up everywhere else.

[vidcc]

The Democrats

[Busyman]

The Democrats

Did you just upload that to YT?

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[vidcc]

yes just, but it is showing as live here

Apparently Youtube has McAfee busyblocker

[Busyman]

yes just, but it is showing as live here

Apparently Youtube has McAfee busyblocker

Oh yeah I saw that on Bill Maher last night.

You should upload the "farewell" as well (as well).

You've got some good vids like the Foley Spin one.

edith man! I just saw the Hackett vs. Taylor clip from Hardball.

I like Chris Mathews. He backs people into corners and cuts through bullshit.
Usually folks can't give straight answers.