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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    I do however think it's bullshit that blacks can say "nigger" or "nigga" all day long and it's ok. Do blacks expect the word to go away when we're constantly reminded of it by those that deem it unspeakable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripper View Post
    Strange when Richard Pryor called people that,they laughed and clapped him.
    He's black and joking too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gripper View Post
    Strange when Richard Pryor called people that,they laughed and clapped him.
    He's black and joking too.
    So I can't call people niggers because I'm white?

    edit: assuming that's the word in question, obviousement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proper Bo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post

    He's black and joking too.
    So I can't call people niggers because I'm white?

    edit: assuming that's the word in question, obviousement
    What's the context?

    For instance, Kramer wasn't joking at all.

    Also you can do whatever you wanna do. In some instances it might get you fucked up. In others you might get cheers and laughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Proper Bo View Post

    So I can't call people niggers because I'm white?

    edit: assuming that's the word in question, obviousement
    What's the context?

    For instance, Kramer wasn't joking at all.

    Also you can do whatever you wanna do. In some instances it might get you fucked up. In others you might get cheers and laughter.
    Wow, I was expecting a straight "no" and then I was going to call you a racist. You spoilt than one, twunt

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    No excuse for that.

    Cross him off the list for good.
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    an interesting take on the whole thing imo.

    Could a white guy post that opinion?
    Last edited by vidcc; 11-22-2006 at 12:43 AM.

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    I love how Jerry Seinfeld is there defending him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc View Post
    an interesting take on the whole thing imo.

    Could a white guy post that opinion?
    A Couple of "N Words" Walk into a Comedy Club

    So, Michael Richards gets heckled, has a meltdown, calls some guys niggers, gives a detailing of a forked-based lynching (?), then gets the public flogging he deserves as he crawls around looking for absolution.

    And that's all as it should be.

    But a query: what exactly do you call a couple of black guys who go to a public place where people paid money to enjoy themselves and who then begin to yell and scream at the person on stage who is trying to do his job?


    As an ex-stand up, I can tell you that a comedy club isn't a place you go looking to get the abuse you just can't seem to find in daily life. The stage is a performer's domain. You protect that domain. You are not on stage to take what's given just 'cause you're getting paid. If you are attacked, you retaliate. If you can be high minded and pithy with your retribution, bravo. But if necessary, if you need to be brutal, such is the nature of things. You go for a heckler's weakness - physical failings, appearances, or stereotypes. Such as; the stereotype of SOME blacks who are unable to be demure in public. SOME blacks who are oblivious to a code of conduct.

    Some would call such individuals niggers.

    Clearly, do to so in this PC-ified age - even in a comedy club, even after having been attacked - is to risk one's career.

    Comparisons have been made to Richards and Mel Gibson, but I don't fully entertain them. When Gibson lost his mind - or made his true id evident - he was driving drunk. And when law officers charged with protecting the public attempted to do their job Gibson let loose with an unprovoked tirade.

    Richards was on stage, practicing his craft in a professional setting, when he was chided to the point he could stand no more. Should he have found a better way to express his displeasure?

    Absolutely.

    But that cannot obfuscate the fact that if these "gentlemen" had merely kept their mouths shut and enjoyed the show - or, failing that, quietly made their way to an exit - no one would have said a word to them. Yet, now, after inciting the incident, they have the audacity to play the victim; act as though they are completely oblivious as to why - WHY - someone would "out of the blue" call them the dreaded "N Word" (and please don't get me started on how the Caucasian-dominate media makes matters worse by unilaterally deciding for blacks that nigger is forever a hurtful word).

    These couple of guys, who have become poster-children for racial insensitivity with the rapidity of the rise of a teen pop queen, are not innocent blacks who were smeared merely for the color of their skin. They are loud-mouthed smart-alecks who were looking for trouble. And trouble once found, they and their paternalistic coddlers seek a group hug from the rest of us when really they are in need of a spanking and a lesson in manners.

    No, I'll save my sympathy for some real victims. Not a couple of "N words" who walked into a comedy club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proper Bo View Post
    A Couple of "N Words" Walk into a Comedy Club

    So, Michael Richards gets heckled, has a meltdown, calls some guys niggers, gives a detailing of a forked-based lynching (?), then gets the public flogging he deserves as he crawls around looking for absolution.

    And that's all as it should be.

    But a query: what exactly do you call a couple of black guys who go to a public place where people paid money to enjoy themselves and who then begin to yell and scream at the person on stage who is trying to do his job?


    As an ex-stand up, I can tell you that a comedy club isn't a place you go looking to get the abuse you just can't seem to find in daily life. The stage is a performer's domain. You protect that domain. You are not on stage to take what's given just 'cause you're getting paid. If you are attacked, you retaliate. If you can be high minded and pithy with your retribution, bravo. But if necessary, if you need to be brutal, such is the nature of things. You go for a heckler's weakness - physical failings, appearances, or stereotypes. Such as; the stereotype of SOME blacks who are unable to be demure in public. SOME blacks who are oblivious to a code of conduct.

    Some would call such individuals niggers.

    Clearly, do to so in this PC-ified age - even in a comedy club, even after having been attacked - is to risk one's career.

    Comparisons have been made to Richards and Mel Gibson, but I don't fully entertain them. When Gibson lost his mind - or made his true id evident - he was driving drunk. And when law officers charged with protecting the public attempted to do their job Gibson let loose with an unprovoked tirade.

    Richards was on stage, practicing his craft in a professional setting, when he was chided to the point he could stand no more. Should he have found a better way to express his displeasure?

    Absolutely.

    But that cannot obfuscate the fact that if these "gentlemen" had merely kept their mouths shut and enjoyed the show - or, failing that, quietly made their way to an exit - no one would have said a word to them. Yet, now, after inciting the incident, they have the audacity to play the victim; act as though they are completely oblivious as to why - WHY - someone would "out of the blue" call them the dreaded "N Word" (and please don't get me started on how the Caucasian-dominate media makes matters worse by unilaterally deciding for blacks that nigger is forever a hurtful word).

    These couple of guys, who have become poster-children for racial insensitivity with the rapidity of the rise of a teen pop queen, are not innocent blacks who were smeared merely for the color of their skin. They are loud-mouthed smart-alecks who were looking for trouble. And trouble once found, they and their paternalistic coddlers seek a group hug from the rest of us when really they are in need of a spanking and a lesson in manners.

    No, I'll save my sympathy for some real victims. Not a couple of "N words" who walked into a comedy club.
    done.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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