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    So then-

    From the fact that

    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post

    Kramer used "nigger" at

    THE LAUGH FACTORY.

    On a subsequent visit, Damon Wayans used "nigger" at

    THE LAUGH FACTORY.
    and was subsequently banned as well, you draw no conclusions vis a vis any societal more as to the propriety of any man, white or black, using the word "nigger" in his act.

    Does this not bespeak a good-faith nod to the idea of equality.

    Or are you only tuned in when "whitey" misuses the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    So then-

    From the fact that

    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post

    Kramer used "nigger" at

    THE LAUGH FACTORY.

    On a subsequent visit, Damon Wayans used "nigger" at

    THE LAUGH FACTORY.
    and was subsequently banned as well, you draw no conclusions vis a vis any societal more as to the propriety of any man, white or black, using the word "nigger" in his act.

    Does this not bespeak a good-faith nod to the idea of equality.

    Or are you only tuned in when "whitey" misuses the word.
    Goodness fuck, you really are clueless.

    I am not as offended when a black person uses the word than when a white person does. Also it plays into how any person is using the word.

    You cannot make a person be offended when they are not.
    You cannot say a person has no right to be offended when only such and such says it.

    It's all quite simple. Use that thesaurus backed up noggin of yours and realize that if I were to talk to your daughter the way you do, she juuuust might get offended. The same might go for your friends, your wife, etc.

    Good lord, I don't get how this is so hard to understand?

    I call my friends motherfuckers and bitches on occasion. Maybe just maybe I can't do that with everyone I meet. Any person should learn that there is place for any language that they let loose and that there are consequences should they say it in the wrong place.

    For instance, I remember Wayans trying to trademark the word so he could sell clothing with it and I thought it crazy.

    I remember Katt Williams saying it in his act and thought he used it too much yet the motherfucker was funny as all get out. If Jay Leno used it like that, he could go fuck himself.

    Equality? No, fucking know your audience, sumumabitch.

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    You were almost normal for a few months, and now you've turned into a twat again.

    Is it a seasonal thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa View Post
    You were almost normal for a few months, and now you've turned into a twat again.

    Is it a seasonal thing
    Fuck you, Barbara. I speak the truth.
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    knowing your audience is one thing. double standards is another

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    So then-

    From the fact that

    and was subsequently banned as well, you draw no conclusions vis a vis any societal more as to the propriety of any man, white or black, using the word "nigger" in his act.

    Does this not bespeak a good-faith nod to the idea of equality.

    Or are you only tuned in when "whitey" misuses the word.
    Goodness fuck, you really are clueless.

    I am not as offended when a black person uses the word than when a white person does. Also it plays into how any person is using the word.

    You cannot make a person be offended when they are not.
    You cannot say a person has no right to be offended when only such and such says it.

    It's all quite simple. Use that thesaurus backed up noggin of yours and realize that if I were to talk to your daughter the way you do, she juuuust might get offended. The same might go for your friends, your wife, etc.

    Good lord, I don't get how this is so hard to understand?

    I call my friends motherfuckers and bitches on occasion. Maybe just maybe I can't do that with everyone I meet. Any person should learn that there is place for any language that they let loose and that there are consequences should they say it in the wrong place.

    For instance, I remember Wayans trying to trademark the word so he could sell clothing with it and I thought it crazy.

    I remember Katt Williams saying it in his act and thought he used it too much yet the motherfucker was funny as all get out. If Jay Leno used it like that, he could go fuck himself.

    Equality? No, fucking know your audience, sumumabitch.
    Okay, let me get this straight:

    1. "Nigger" is a word whose origin is white vernacular, historically used by white European types to refer to blacks since the days of slavery.

    2. Use of the word in this day and age by whites in any context at all is quite rightfully regarded as maximally offensive to blacks, as such use connotes eternally inescapable racism.

    3. Conversely, blacks have appropriated the word "nigger" exclusively for black-on-black use, which context they are entirely comfortable with.

    4. Unrestricted use of this otherwise supremely offensive word among blacks is not seen by them as ironic.

    I stumbled across this the other day:


    "Kramer's" apology opens the door for others
    By Larry Elder
    Thursday, November 30, 2006


    Here's my holiday wish list:

    Dear Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton,

    Please accept my apology for launching into a racist tirade against two black hecklers at my comedy show. Because I attacked two blacks in particular, I know this means I harbor deep-seated racist feelings about all blacks. While, in return, I heard words like "f---ing white boy" and "cracker-ass motherf---er," I know those epithets were directed toward me, as an individual, and not at the entire white race.

    Again, please accept my deepest apologies.

    Michael Richards, aka "Kramer" of "Seinfeld"

    Dear Anti-Defamation League,

    Once again, please accept my apology for calling Jews "Hymies" and referring to New York City as "Hymie-town." As I said at the time, "Charge it to my head . . . not to my heart."

    Sincerely, Rev. Jesse Jackson

    Dear NAACP, Urban League and Congress of Racial Equality,

    Please accept my apology for, during concerts in which I sang my song "Gold Digger," giving whites permission to sing along and use the "n-word." Perhaps Michael Richards attended one of my concerts and left not realizing his license had expired.

    Kanye West, hip-hop artist/rapper

    Dear Jewish Defense League, Korean-American Grocer Association and Council on American-Islamic Relations,

    Please accept my apology for, while serving as a Wal-Mart spokesperson, condemning Jewish, Korean and Arab inner-city merchants for "overcharging" blacks. I also inexcusably said that these merchants sell "stale bread and bad meat and wilted vegetables." Charge that to my head, not my heart.

    Sincerely yours, Andrew Young, former U.N. ambassador for the United States, former mayor of Atlanta and former colleague of Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Dear Democratic National Committee,

    During the recent election cycle, the Republican Party ran a number of blacks -- among them Maryland Lieutenant Governor Michael Steele for Senate, Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell for governor, and Lynn Swann for governor in Pennsylvania. So please accept my apology for saying Republicans have a "white-boy attitude," which means "I must exclude, denigrate and leave behind."

    Sincerely yours, Donna Brazile, former Al Gore 2000 campaign manager

    Dear White Community,

    Please accept my apology for my statement during the 2002 "Millions for Reparations" rally: "I just might walk up to the nearest white man and say, 'You don't understand this, this is a black thing,' and slap 'em, just for my mental health. If they don't pay us reparations now, we're talking about scorched earth." There goes my head!

    Sincerely yours, Charles Barron, New York City councilman

    Dear Anti-Defamation League,

    Please accept my apology. I lost my temper during my husband's unsuccessful 1974 congressional campaign. Bill's campaign adviser, Paul Fray, and his wife publicly claim that I called Fray a "f---ing Jew bastard." I don't recall this, but assuming I did, what was I thinking? It wasn't my heart.

    Sincerely yours, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton

    Dear Jesse Jackson and local Little Rock, Ark., black activist Robert "Say" McIntosh,

    Former Arkansas State Trooper Larry Patterson publicly claimed I referred to the two of you as "n--gers." Ditto what Hillary just said.

    Sincerely, Former President of the United States Bill Clinton

    Dear Ward Connerly and anyone in an interracial relationship,

    When you led the successful campaign in California to end race-based preferences, I criticized you, a black man, saying, "He's married a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn't want to be black." My bad.

    Sincerely, Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif.

    Dear Republican National Committee,

    Please accept my apology for saying, after the Republicans took over Congress in 1994, "It's not 'spic' or 'n--ger' anymore. They say 'let's cut taxes.'" Also, I apologize for, following Katrina, publicly saying, "George Bush is our Bull Connor" -- referring to the former Birmingham, Ala., police commissioner, who turned water hoses and dogs on civil rights workers. My head and heart were clashing.

    Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., incoming House Ways and Means Committee chairman

    Dear Anti-Defamation League and White Community,

    Please accept my apologies for calling whites "interlopers" and referring to Jews as "diamond merchants," and, during a conflict between Jews and blacks, saying, "If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house." They were mistakes of the head, not the heart.

    Rev. Al Sharpton, civil rights activist and former host of "Saturday Night Live"

    Dear Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice and other minority members of the Bush administration,

    Please accept my apology for, while co-hosting a radio show in 2001, calling Bush's minority appointees "Uncle Tom types." I made a mistake of the head, not of the heart.

    Sincerely yours, Gloria Allred, attorney at law, currently representing the black "victims" of Michael Richards' racist rant

    Now, don't we all feel better?
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

    -Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post

    Goodness fuck, you really are clueless.

    I am not as offended when a black person uses the word than when a white person does. Also it plays into how any person is using the word.

    You cannot make a person be offended when they are not.
    You cannot say a person has no right to be offended when only such and such says it.

    It's all quite simple. Use that thesaurus backed up noggin of yours and realize that if I were to talk to your daughter the way you do, she juuuust might get offended. The same might go for your friends, your wife, etc.

    Good lord, I don't get how this is so hard to understand?

    I call my friends motherfuckers and bitches on occasion. Maybe just maybe I can't do that with everyone I meet. Any person should learn that there is place for any language that they let loose and that there are consequences should they say it in the wrong place.

    For instance, I remember Wayans trying to trademark the word so he could sell clothing with it and I thought it crazy.

    I remember Katt Williams saying it in his act and thought he used it too much yet the motherfucker was funny as all get out. If Jay Leno used it like that, he could go fuck himself.

    Equality? No, fucking know your audience, sumumabitch.
    Okay, let me get this straight:

    1. "Nigger" is a word whose origin is white vernacular, historically used by white European types to refer to blacks since the days of slavery.

    2. Use of the word in this day and age by whites in any context at all is quite rightfully regarded as maximally offensive to blacks, as such use connotes eternally inescapable racism.

    3. Conversely, blacks have appropriated the word "nigger" exclusively for black-on-black use, which context they are entirely comfortable with.

    4. Unrestricted use of this otherwise supremely offensive word among blacks is not seen by them as ironic.

    I stumbled across this the other day:


    "Kramer's" apology opens the door for others
    By Larry Elder
    Thursday, November 30, 2006


    Here's my holiday wish list:

    Dear Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton,

    Please accept my apology for launching into a racist tirade against two black hecklers at my comedy show. Because I attacked two blacks in particular, I know this means I harbor deep-seated racist feelings about all blacks. While, in return, I heard words like "f---ing white boy" and "cracker-ass motherf---er," I know those epithets were directed toward me, as an individual, and not at the entire white race.

    Again, please accept my deepest apologies.

    Michael Richards, aka "Kramer" of "Seinfeld"

    Dear Anti-Defamation League,

    Once again, please accept my apology for calling Jews "Hymies" and referring to New York City as "Hymie-town." As I said at the time, "Charge it to my head . . . not to my heart."

    Sincerely, Rev. Jesse Jackson

    Dear NAACP, Urban League and Congress of Racial Equality,

    Please accept my apology for, during concerts in which I sang my song "Gold Digger," giving whites permission to sing along and use the "n-word." Perhaps Michael Richards attended one of my concerts and left not realizing his license had expired.

    Kanye West, hip-hop artist/rapper

    Dear Jewish Defense League, Korean-American Grocer Association and Council on American-Islamic Relations,

    Please accept my apology for, while serving as a Wal-Mart spokesperson, condemning Jewish, Korean and Arab inner-city merchants for "overcharging" blacks. I also inexcusably said that these merchants sell "stale bread and bad meat and wilted vegetables." Charge that to my head, not my heart.

    Sincerely yours, Andrew Young, former U.N. ambassador for the United States, former mayor of Atlanta and former colleague of Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Dear Democratic National Committee,

    During the recent election cycle, the Republican Party ran a number of blacks -- among them Maryland Lieutenant Governor Michael Steele for Senate, Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell for governor, and Lynn Swann for governor in Pennsylvania. So please accept my apology for saying Republicans have a "white-boy attitude," which means "I must exclude, denigrate and leave behind."

    Sincerely yours, Donna Brazile, former Al Gore 2000 campaign manager

    Dear White Community,

    Please accept my apology for my statement during the 2002 "Millions for Reparations" rally: "I just might walk up to the nearest white man and say, 'You don't understand this, this is a black thing,' and slap 'em, just for my mental health. If they don't pay us reparations now, we're talking about scorched earth." There goes my head!

    Sincerely yours, Charles Barron, New York City councilman

    Dear Anti-Defamation League,

    Please accept my apology. I lost my temper during my husband's unsuccessful 1974 congressional campaign. Bill's campaign adviser, Paul Fray, and his wife publicly claim that I called Fray a "f---ing Jew bastard." I don't recall this, but assuming I did, what was I thinking? It wasn't my heart.

    Sincerely yours, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton

    Dear Jesse Jackson and local Little Rock, Ark., black activist Robert "Say" McIntosh,

    Former Arkansas State Trooper Larry Patterson publicly claimed I referred to the two of you as "n--gers." Ditto what Hillary just said.

    Sincerely, Former President of the United States Bill Clinton

    Dear Ward Connerly and anyone in an interracial relationship,

    When you led the successful campaign in California to end race-based preferences, I criticized you, a black man, saying, "He's married a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn't want to be black." My bad.

    Sincerely, Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif.

    Dear Republican National Committee,

    Please accept my apology for saying, after the Republicans took over Congress in 1994, "It's not 'spic' or 'n--ger' anymore. They say 'let's cut taxes.'" Also, I apologize for, following Katrina, publicly saying, "George Bush is our Bull Connor" -- referring to the former Birmingham, Ala., police commissioner, who turned water hoses and dogs on civil rights workers. My head and heart were clashing.

    Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., incoming House Ways and Means Committee chairman

    Dear Anti-Defamation League and White Community,

    Please accept my apologies for calling whites "interlopers" and referring to Jews as "diamond merchants," and, during a conflict between Jews and blacks, saying, "If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house." They were mistakes of the head, not the heart.

    Rev. Al Sharpton, civil rights activist and former host of "Saturday Night Live"

    Dear Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice and other minority members of the Bush administration,

    Please accept my apology for, while co-hosting a radio show in 2001, calling Bush's minority appointees "Uncle Tom types." I made a mistake of the head, not of the heart.

    Sincerely yours, Gloria Allred, attorney at law, currently representing the black "victims" of Michael Richards' racist rant

    Now, don't we all feel better?
    kramer is the only not racist one there

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    scratch that. half of them are just stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post

    Goodness fuck, you really are clueless.

    I am not as offended when a black person uses the word than when a white person does. Also it plays into how any person is using the word.

    You cannot make a person be offended when they are not.
    You cannot say a person has no right to be offended when only such and such says it.

    It's all quite simple. Use that thesaurus backed up noggin of yours and realize that if I were to talk to your daughter the way you do, she juuuust might get offended. The same might go for your friends, your wife, etc.

    Good lord, I don't get how this is so hard to understand?

    I call my friends motherfuckers and bitches on occasion. Maybe just maybe I can't do that with everyone I meet. Any person should learn that there is place for any language that they let loose and that there are consequences should they say it in the wrong place.

    For instance, I remember Wayans trying to trademark the word so he could sell clothing with it and I thought it crazy.

    I remember Katt Williams saying it in his act and thought he used it too much yet the motherfucker was funny as all get out. If Jay Leno used it like that, he could go fuck himself.

    Equality? No, fucking know your audience, sumumabitch.
    Okay, let me get this straight:

    1. "Nigger" is a word whose origin is white vernacular, historically used by white European types to refer to blacks since the days of slavery.

    2. Use of the word in this day and age by whites in any context at all is quite rightfully regarded as maximally offensive to blacks, as such use connotes eternally inescapable racism.

    3. Conversely, blacks have appropriated the word "nigger" exclusively for black-on-black use, which context they are entirely comfortable with.

    4. Unrestricted use of this otherwise supremely offensive word among blacks is not seen by them as ironic.

    I stumbled across this the other day:
    You stumbled across it?

    You are clueless. I just explained it to you. You still don't get it. Actually others have explained it too. You still don't get it.

    Among some blacks, it is not offensive and it similar to some jokingly calling each other motherfucker. Normally that would be offensive. When it is used in such a manner, it is not.

    In some cases, I might jokingly call a friend a gorilla. In some cases, I have been called a house negro (cuz I'm light skinned). In some cases, we joke about a dark skinned black person and tell him that he's so black that the only time I can see him in the dark is if he smiles.

    Now cuz we say it, are we supposed to not be offended automatically cuz a white says the thing. Am I supposed to say to myself, "Self, we are all equal so everything's cool."

    Fuck no.

    I don't run around calling white folks cracker, o-fey, or whitey to be a smartass. The double standard would come in if I did that and then got bent outta shape if they called me a nigger. White folks talking down to blacks with that "brother" shit is a clue that they are clueless also.

    Some people are simply racially ignorant.

    Funny enough, I have heard white folks jokingly call each other crackers, o-fey, and whitey and didn't feel the need to join in. That was their thing.

    I have even seen white and black men jokingly call each other racial slurs. In those cases they were good friends.

    THEY KNEW THEIR AUDIENCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    Okay, let me get this straight:

    1. "Nigger" is a word whose origin is white vernacular, historically used by white European types to refer to blacks since the days of slavery.

    2. Use of the word in this day and age by whites in any context at all is quite rightfully regarded as maximally offensive to blacks, as such use connotes eternally inescapable racism.

    3. Conversely, blacks have appropriated the word "nigger" exclusively for black-on-black use, which context they are entirely comfortable with.

    4. Unrestricted use of this otherwise supremely offensive word among blacks is not seen by them as ironic.

    I stumbled across this the other day:
    You stumbled across it?

    You are clueless. I just explained it to you. You still don't get it. Actually others have explained it too. You still don't get it.

    Among some blacks, it is not offensive and it similar to some jokingly calling each other motherfucker. Normally that would be offensive. When it is used in such a manner, it is not.

    In some cases, I might jokingly call a friend a gorilla. In some cases, I have been called a house negro (cuz I'm light skinned). In some cases, we joke about a dark skinned black person and tell him that he's so black that the only time I can see him in the dark is if he smiles.

    Now cuz we say it, are we supposed to not be offended automatically cuz a white says the thing. Am I supposed to say to myself, "Self, we are all equal so everything's cool."

    Fuck no.

    I don't run around calling white folks cracker, o-fey, or whitey to be a smartass. The double standard would come in if I did that and then got bent outta shape if they called me a nigger. White folks talking down to blacks with that "brother" shit is a clue that they are clueless also.

    Some people are simply racially ignorant.

    Funny enough, I have heard white folks jokingly call each other crackers, o-fey, and whitey and didn't feel the need to join in. That was their thing.

    I have even seen white and black men jokingly call each other racial slurs. In those cases they were good friends.

    THEY KNEW THEIR AUDIENCE.
    you're right about knowing your audience.

    but, banning the use of a word by just one race, would be in itself uber racist.

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