Does anyone else have the Nintendo Wii

[Busyman™]

That is awesome


My dad has a ps2 that he use to play now it just sits and collects dust

My mom ha I dont remember her ever playing


You are so lucky

you should buy guitar hero for your dad. maybe learn to play it with him, so you can make sure he stays with it long enough to get into the swing & start enjoying it. it's a fun-ass game with lasting appeal, i can practically guarantee. (guitar hero 2, not so much, though. don't really like the music. original guitar hero is sweet though... excellent mix of classic rock, punk and a lil bit of contemporary alt-rock. guitar hero 2's music is too much hairspray/spandex & tuneless wankery imho.)


ALSO. guys, i want a wii. even though i do expect it will not be a great investment in the long run -- selection of games will prolly not be as good/large overall as xbox360 & ps3. still want it though. but i can't afford it right this moment.

i'm gonna boycott wii until they release a new animal crossing which hopefully will have a better-integrated, easier-to-use internet mode than the DS version had. like, i WANT to be able to interact with random strangers instead of trading friend-codes first, i WANT random strangers to be able to visit my animal village & look around (so long as they can't vandalize it) while the wii is in sleep mode, etc. that's my excuse until i can scrape up enough spare cash to buy a wii (might be a long time, especially if i end up need-need-needing to buy a 360 first).

trauma center: second opinion has my interest. i kind of wonder how it could possibly be as precise & fast-paced as the DS original, but oh well. i imagine i'd enjoy it, anyway.

sonic wildfire (or whatever it might be called now) could be good.

curious about red steel, want to try it out, even though my gut has been telling me ever since the first screenshots came out that red steel is prolly trash.

i'd really like to see the Punch-Out brand revived on wii. i think a first-person boxing game where you swing the wii controller to throw punches would prolly be awesomesauce.

Yeah Punch Out would be nice. Boxing on Wii Sports kinda gives you an idea where it'll be headed.

Red Steel is shit.

Certain games just don't interest me coupled with "Wii movements". In Zelda, I don't care for parts with remote movements. I wanna play it standard.

However, game like bowling and baseball (Wii Sports) are quite fun but wouldn't really bother unless I'm in a party setting or need exercise.

One thing is for sure and this means nothing to me as a gamer, businesswise, the Wii is a hit.

The graphics are not much better than a GC, it costs $250 (almost the cost of a core 360 and $50 less than the debut Xbox and PS2, and the only major upgrade is internet (not much cost) and a new controller (Xavix).

From a gamer standpoint, the Wii sucks.

If I had to get a game that's multi-platform, the Wii is last when last go round the GC was second.

Would you rather play COD 3 on a Wii or 360?

[Busyman™]

oh and wii sports has first person boxing

O RLY. O_O

and i'd been hoping they'd eventually delete wii sports & sell the bare console for closer to $200 USD. but if it has first-person boxing... WELL, then! i'll have to take a further look at wii sports (beyond that tennis part which, to be honest, didn't strike me as a killer application by any stretch).

Tennis is actually fun. You can play doubles.

We like bowling and the home run derby the best though. Golf is quite fun too.

I'm trying to get perfect home runs.

IMPORTANT!:

A BIG SCREEN AND NICE SOUND SYSTEM ARE ALMOST A MUST!

[3RA1N1AC]

From a gamer standpoint, the Wii sucks.

hey i'm a gamer and i don't think wii sucks. okay well i sort of do think it sucks (it's a gamecube, haw haw haw), but there are things i really like about it. i do understand what you mean, though. if somebody buys a wii and doesn't also buy a 360 or ps3, he really will be getting the shit-end of the stick as far as multi-platform games go. i'm not too into the WW2 FPS genre, but supposing i were a big call of duty fan then yeah i'd be pretty turned off by the idea of CoD3 on wii.

that's pretty much what i'm talking about too, when i say the wii will prolly not be a good investment in the long run. i'd be mainly interested in buying games that are exclusively for wii, rather than getting watered-down ports of 360 & ps3 games. so if we cross out all the watered-down ports, we're left with a relatively small number of exclusive games, and an even smaller number of top-notch fantastic must-buy exclusive games. maybe a dozen such games, or a few dozen, over the next 5 years. it's just prolly not going to be a very good value, as a gamer's ONLY new console.

but, uh, right. no need to worry about me, busyman. i'm not gonna buy ONLY a wii and spend the next 5 years stuck with shitty ports of 360/ps3 games. i want a 360 in the somewhat near future too, at least. it's just a matter of getting serious about it, quit spending money on cds/dvds/etc for a while, set aside a few bucks here a few bucks there, until i can afford both 360 and wii.

maybe i'll want a ps3 after a few years, but in the meantime i ain't willing to pay $500-$600 for a videogame machine.




oh btw, you mention gamecube being choice #2 for multi-platform games in the previous generation. i have to disagree. partially disagree at least. i reckon that most multi-platform games in the previous generation were initially designed for ps2, then usually upgraded slightly for xbox. not necessarily optimized for xbox, but xbox had plenty of horsepower to spare so they could still afford to stick some upgrades into even a quickie conversion. gamecube had somewhat stronger processors than ps2, so you'd expect it to always get improved versions of every game by default. but oftentimes it just received sloppy & poorly performing ports of ps2 games because that's where game developers like EA, capcom, ubisoft, sega, etc placed gamecube on their list of priorities. "eh, the gamecube version could be better if we developed & optimized it from scratch, but instead we'll just hire some guys in shanghai or korea or wherever to do a quick & dirty port, which might turn out worse than the ps2 version since gamecube doesn't have that much power to spare. 'cause to be honest, gamecube is the #3 seller, so we really don't give a fuck about it."

[MagicNakor]

I think the Wii definitely shows the most innovation of the next-gen consoles. Nintendo's always been very good at that (though arguably not in the last couple years), and it will be interesting to see how game developers adapt to it.

How do the Wii-specific controls fare? Are they more immersive than a standard control system? If not, do you think that's due to the hardware technology or due to the newness of the software which the game devs will improve on?

I've not had the opportunity to try a Wii out, but I was thinking of purchasing one for a Christmas gift. Of course, I don't want to do that if it's really not worthwhile, because it would be a rather expensive paperweight.

[3RA1N1AC]

I think the Wii definitely shows the most innovation of the next-gen consoles. Nintendo's always been very good at that (though arguably not in the last couple years)

nakor do you own a nintendo ds? i believe it's a system very much worth owning, especially if you are interested in innovative game-console design. not to mention the fact it also has quite a few very good games. for example trauma center, brain age/big brain academy, feel the magic, etc.

anyway, i think the ds was very much in line with nintendo's current approach re: the wii. they both come with control methods that are meant to appeal to gamers & non-gamers. for gamers it might be considered mere gimmick. fun, yet gimmicky. but for non-gamers it's an easy entrance to videogames whereas they might have been too intimidated by the complicated abstract controls of other systems (i.e. joypads with a dozen buttons that you need to learn & remember all the functions of -- not intuitive at all). the ds's touchscreen and the wii's remote are both more direct, literal & familiar: it can be as simple as pointing 'n' clicking at pictures on a screen, without all the fuss of learning the functions of a dozen buttons and numerous elaborate menus.

if nintendo takes this seriously, it prolly will also end up putting some constraints on the designs of their games. there's only so much you can do in pursuit of simplicity. anyway, i think the ds has all of that too. perhaps not as much as it could have on the software side, though. unfortunately nintendos of america & europe seem to be lagging a bit on the non-gamer angle, whereas in japan some of their top sellers on the ds include cookbooks & foreign phrasebooks (for helping japanese tourists communicate with locals in other countries). that's the kind of stuff i reckon would help draw in the non-gamer crowd, who might be able to see the ds as not only a videogame machine but also an inexpensive PDA-type device.

[MagicNakor]

I forgot about the DS, but you're right. It is very innovative. I haven't had a handheld since Gameboy....

[Busyman™]

I think the Wii definitely shows the most innovation of the next-gen consoles. Nintendo's always been very good at that (though arguably not in the last couple years), and it will be interesting to see how game developers adapt to it.

How do the Wii-specific controls fare? Are they more immersive than a standard control system? If not, do you think that's due to the hardware technology or due to the newness of the software which the game devs will improve on?

I've not had the opportunity to try a Wii out, but I was thinking of purchasing one for a Christmas gift. Of course, I don't want to do that if it's really not worthwhile, because it would be a rather expensive paperweight.

The Wii is not a next innovation. It has a new controller. What I mean is that the controller could have been made for the Gamecube.

The controller is immersive. When you bowl, it's like you are really bowling. The same for hitting baseballs. You hold the controller like a baseball bat and swing to crack the ball.

However, that type of controller isn't good for all games. When you use it, you get a workout. Who wants a workout when playing a game like RE4?

Ya don't which is why I said before that it's great as a party console but not as a serious gaming console.

[BrolyBoo]

I think the Wii definitely shows the most innovation of the next-gen consoles. Nintendo's always been very good at that (though arguably not in the last couple years), and it will be interesting to see how game developers adapt to it.

How do the Wii-specific controls fare? Are they more immersive than a standard control system? If not, do you think that's due to the hardware technology or due to the newness of the software which the game devs will improve on?

I've not had the opportunity to try a Wii out, but I was thinking of purchasing one for a Christmas gift. Of course, I don't want to do that if it's really not worthwhile, because it would be a rather expensive paperweight.

honestly, you dont really get a workout. Most of the time, you just have the move the controller around, not swing it randomly

The Wii is not a next innovation. It has a new controller. What I mean is that the controller could have been made for the Gamecube.

The controller is immersive. When you bowl, it's like you are really bowling. The same for hitting baseballs. You hold the controller like a baseball bat and swing to crack the ball.

However, that type of controller isn't good for all games. When you use it, you get a workout. Who wants a workout when playing a game like RE4?

Ya don't which is why I said before that it's great as a party console but not as a serious gaming console.

[shalinor]

[quote=Busyman™;1575935]

The Wii is not a next innovation. It has a new controller. What I mean is that the controller could have been made for the Gamecube.

The controller is immersive. When you bowl, it's like you are really bowling. The same for hitting baseballs. You hold the controller like a baseball bat and swing to crack the ball.

However, that type of controller isn't good for all games. When you use it, you get a workout. Who wants a workout when playing a game like RE4?

Ya don't which is why I said before that it's great as a party console but not as a serious gaming console.

Not necessarily... who says the controller has inputs that act anything like the Gamecube's controller inputers? They likely would have needed a new console to support the controller period, never mind that this let them update the graphics a bit. Not competing with XBox 360 graphically, but better than Gamecube at least.

Maybe I'm alone in thinking it, but I'd love a bit more activity out of my games period. Working out for the sake of working out is boring - if my leisuire activities had more physical activity, perhaps there would be less need for pretending to bicycle for hours a week. The Wii is hardly an exercise, but hey, at least it gets you moving.

[Busyman™]

Not necessarily... who says the controller has inputs that act anything like the Gamecube's controller inputers? They likely would have needed a new console to support the controller period, never mind that this let them update the graphics a bit. Not competing with XBox 360 graphically, but better than Gamecube at least.

Maybe I'm alone in thinking it, but I'd love a bit more activity out of my games period. Working out for the sake of working out is boring - if my leisuire activities had more physical activity, perhaps there would be less need for pretending to bicycle for hours a week. The Wii is hardly an exercise, but hey, at least it gets you moving.

For some games, it is an exercise. For many games, remote controlling would be a nuisance.

For instance, if I'm chillin and wanna play a game before I go to sleep, I don't wanna wave my hand around. I want thumb and finger action not wrist and arm (that sounds nasty).

Also there is no reason whatsoever that this controller couldn't have been made for the Gamecube. There is sensor (which smaller than I first thought) that mounts on the TV and your remotes.

The controller is the innovation (well Xavix was out first) not the console itself. That much is obvious.

Another obvious point is that the graphics are barely upgraded.

The Wii gives

a new controller
a modest graphics bump
online capability

The only way for the Wii to survive is too have innovative games cause that's the only thing going for it. That and rehash old games played in a new way (the remote). For example, Madden football allows you to throw passes remote stylee.

It also won't hurt if some staple games never use the remote like Castlevania and Mario. They would sell simply if there are new versions.

As I said before, the Wii was a smart move for Nintendo considering what they actually had to add to go "next-gen" when in fact they aren't next-gen at all.

In fact, I think they actually make money with every console sold.

They have

no next-gen media drive (Blu-Ray/HD-DVD)
no next-gen graphics

I wouldn't be surprised if the NEXT Nintendo console kicks everyone elses ass.

By staying behind the curve technology-wise they keep costs down. If they were smart, next go round they'd have the muscle to bump their graphics up to snuff so my games can look AND play good.

Wii Sports may be fun as all get out but I'll gladly pop in Gears Of War over it.

Zelda: TP is nice but the graphics are seriously underwhelming. It's like a new Zelda for the Gamecube.